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Is the barding calculator incorrect?

Discussion in 'UO Bard' started by Saint of Killers, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Saint of Killers

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    Sorry for my ignorance if this has been covered already, and I missed it.

    Stygian Dragon
    120 music/disco

    Instruments:
    normal = 10% chance to disco
    exceptional = 20% chance to disco
    dragon slayer = 30% chance to disco

    reptile slayer = 10% chance to disco

    Is the calculator wrong for reptile?
     
  2. popps

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    I know that Super slayers have a lower bonus than slayers (also for weapons...), I am not sure though, whether the 1:3 ratio is correct.

    But the Super slayer definately is less good than a specific slayer.
     
  3. Barry Gibb

    Barry Gibb Of Saintly Patience
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    In this case, the barding calculator is wrong. It looks as though the Stygian Dragon is not registering as "reptile". I checked your statistics against an Ancient Wyrm (also BD=160) and both the Dragon and Reptile slayer instruments show 30% success chance, as expected.

    Slayer Instruments add 20% success chance (for their group), regardless if it is a lesser slayer (e.g. Dragon) or a super slayer (e.g. Reptile). This is unlike slayer weapon damage.

    Stayin Alive,

    BG
     
  4. Barry Gibb

    Barry Gibb Of Saintly Patience
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    The above is simply not true.

    Lesser Slayer instruments provide the same bonus (of +20%) for success as a Super Slayer instrument. The benefit of super slayers is that they cover a wider range of targets.

    The slayer damage bonus for Weapons and Spellbooks are different between lesser and super slayers. You can find more detailed information on the "Slayer" property here: Slayer Weapons

    Stayin Alive,

    BG
     
  5. popps

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    Well, reading the page :



    There is no mention on that page about "Super" Slayer "Instruments for which it is not clear (from that page...) whether for "Musical Instruments", in the case of "Super" Slayers the same 20% of regular Slayers apply, or whether for them it is any different.
     
  6. Petra Fyde

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    I'm sorry, the calculator picks up information from Hunter's guide. I tried to add 'reptile slayer' to the information last night and merely succeeded in losing the 'dragon slayer' information. The database is throwing up a coding error :(
     
  7. Barry Gibb

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    That's because super slayer instruments work the same as lesser slayer instruments. If they all work the same, there is no need to differentiate them. The only difference between them is the groups of effected monsters, which is explained well.

    The slayer property for weapons used to be the same damage increase for super and lesser slayers, but it was changed just prior to the release of SA (to how it is now).

    Stayin Alive,

    BG
     
  8. Saint of Killers

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    I appreciate the clarification Barry!