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issue with archery and throwing since "pvp balance" patch

Discussion in 'UHall' started by aarons6, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. aarons6

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    ok so you devs doubled the spell lightning strikes mana cost for "pvp balancing" even tho i dont think that spell was ever used in pvp..

    it has rendered the bush/chiv archer/thrower almost USELESS IN PVM...


    the problem is in another "pvp balance" patch the devs cut the effect of leeches in half on ranged weapons..

    this means now at MAX mana leech, you will not leech enough mana to sustain lightning strike.. doesnt sound like a huge deal but this is the bushidos MAIN SPELL.... please adjust the leeches.

    for all you nerf cryers out there. this has nothing to do with sampires..

    they can pretty much cast LS all day long and never use any mana.. even after the "pvp balance" patch. ontop of that i pretty much only cast momentum strikes on my sampire.. dont hardly touch the LS spell.
     
  2. Larisa

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    Wait..WHAT?

    Please explain...my favorite char was my bushido chiv archer with a 40% hit lightning bow...what have they done to my template?????

    LOL I'm still catching up...any help would be appriciated :)
     
  3. Klapauc

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    I think the halfed leeches are fine because you are on a ranged char and dont get hit that much as a melee char.
    As for double mana cost on ls, think its purpose was to balance ranged chars a bit more. Unwanted side effect is, poor or newbie players that use it mainly to get hci cap that is not really cheap otherwise, get a big nerf here.

    Better solution would have been to reduce crit chance and leave mana cost alone, as it is now, ls is basically useless for spamming, mana is better spent on specials.
    Nerf hits the wrong people/templates most imho.
     
  4. Lorddog

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    i think its the special move lightning hit not the 50% hit chance lightning property

    lorddog
     
  5. puni666

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    Get LMC or get HCI and negate the need for lightning strike.
     
  6. Xalan Dementia

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    lightning strike in pvm gives a chance at a Critical strike, which in some cases triples the damage the shot would normally do, the hci boost from it is just a bonus.
    My chiv bushido archer doesnt seem to have been affected much, i run about 38 mana leech on my bows and 4o lmc. I do run out of mana faster but i can still refill my mana in a few shots. One thing you can try is fish pies, sometimes in a pinch they can be helpful for MR or even the ones that give ya 10 med skill.
     
  7. puni666

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    Or mana draught. It replenishes about 30-40 mana.
     
  8. Raptor85

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    I use it in pvp all the time, it's a free 50HCI without needing it on suit and it increases damage to the 35 cap on hit, so it's like cheap random AI's while fighting. I think it's fine how it is now though, even though it did significantly tone down my build, now i just need to toss some mana regen on my suit and it's good to go again. (i could LS endlessly before, now i have to wait after every 4 or 5)
     
  9. Restroom Cowboy

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    God forbid you ever run out of mana! :next:
     
  10. G.v.P

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    lol :)

    yeah, with 80 chiv and consecrate everything should be fine...I mean lightning strike basically gave you a 1 out of 3 chance of having a free armor ignore (120 bush)...and @ 3 mana per w/ 40 LMC it was sorta gimp. I mean I used to score back to back to back 260 damage hits with my thrower. no other PVM template could compete with that DPS.

    but yeah, lightning strike hasn't really been used hardcore in PvP since the COP bushido days, when honoring someone resulted in LS hits of over 100 each.