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  1. Tangled Metal

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    While bank sitting on Pacific a player came up to me and asked me a very odd question. They asked me if I would sell my house behind theirs. Being that my home shard is Atlantic now I was confused. I said I did not own any houses on Pacific and the story begins.

    Apparently sometime after I quit playing 2 1/2 years ago, someone registered a Stratics account with the name Rowan Elizabeth and created multiple characters on multiple shards and paraded around as me! This person apparently was not a very nice person and possibly stole, scammed, cheated people out of things using my good name.

    Let me just say, in the 12+ years I have been playing, in the 8 accounts I have owned, I have never once had any kind of mark placed on my account. I have never stolen, scammed or cheated anyone. I have never misrepresented an item nor intentionally taken advantage of another player.

    Quite the opposite really! I have helped out people in game for many years. I have always helped out new players when I could and helped out veteran players when needed as well. I have loaned out millions in gold- some of it paid back and some of it not.

    I have never paid real money for anything other than my subscription. When I quit 2 1/2 years ago I did sell a few items for real money and sold some gold to a reputable broker, but I did not sell any of my accounts. Currently I have 2 active accounts and 6 inactive ones.

    The story being told to me included that whoever was posing as me had spent a huge amount of money for ingame items. This person had also been very rude on these boards to many people. The person telling the story to me said I should use a name change token because of how much people hated me.

    This all kind of is starting to come together. Now I know why people have jumped straight to cussing me out every time I post on here. Some of the PM's I have received have been borderline terroristic threats!

    So, to clarify, I am the original Rowan Elizabeth, friend to many and foe to none, at least in game. I used to be the Official Breakfast maker when Stratics was on the original server. I am not the person who was posing as me. I just wanted to make that very clear to everyone out there. Take it how you will.
     
  2. UOFree

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    I don't know you. I only seen you at Rares Festival and such. But honestly why write it here? You have no real proof that it wasnt you and that might be what those other people believe too.

    Anyone who does something wrong can always claim it was not them or make up other stories.

    I'm not saying your not telling the truth, since I don't know you or heard about any of those things before your post.
    If your reputation is good within your community it shouldnt really matter what some random people are saying.
     
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    If this is the Rowan Elizabeth from Atl I know him.

    I think he's playing on Pacific now, but I've never had any dealings with him they were not honorable. I've seen him help people several times.

    There's no way to protect yourself from this happening.

    I guess he came here because he felt violated and wanted to talk to as many people as possible as quickly as he could.
     
  4. Tangled Metal

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    Yes, ABC you are correct. The person telling me about all this stuff said much of it happened here on stratics. Since I have was gone from the game and from stratics for a couple years I wanted to post here to clarify it.

    Yes, I am currently on Pacific for the upcoming rares festival but Atlantic is now my main shard. I played Napa for many years, moved to Origin when it opened up and ran a museum there for years, then moved to Atlantic when the shards started to become empty.

    If the person was just confused then I apologize for the post but this person claimed that the person impersonating me had taken $50k real money from a dead person and spent it on rares in UO. That kind of sick accusation makes me look really bad so I wanted to clear that up. I will admit I sold some rares and some gold for real money when I quit a couple of years ago, but that was back when we could list items for real money on stratics. And let me asure you it was not even close to $50k by any stretch of the imagination.

    Anyhow, if anyone has any other information regarding this please pm me as I would love to get to the bottom of all of this...

    EDIT: I just looked up the old thread from when I quit and was selling rares. It was posted in September of 2007. So I guess that is when I left the game. I cam back in December of 2009. So anything from Octoberish of 2007 to December 2009 was not me.
     
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    OH BOY! I can almost hear those miniature violins now....

    :popcorn:
     
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    Rowan, I don't know you (either of you =). We did speak briefly a couple of times and I had no problems with you.

    I understand why you posted and brought this to the light. If that had happened to me, I would probably post, too.

    Years ago, someone on Lake Austin made a character with my name, FasterThanThat. I have no idea if any harm was done, but they didn't keep it up long. It really is disturbing to look up and see someone is impersonating you. You don't know their intent and there is no way to know what might come from it.

    If you are really not a bad guy and don't do people wrong, then continue to do what is good and right. Even if you were wrong before, or someone who claimed to be you harmed your reputation, the thing to do now is to move forward, with integrity. People who interact with you will be able to make new determinations about you, based on how they know you to be now.

    One thing I have learned is that you cannot stop what people say about you. People, not all of them, but many of them, will say -anything- they want to say, with no regard for the truth. If they think it sounds good and will serve the purpose of helping them accomplish their goal, they will say whatever they want to. What makes that worse is that most people believe everything they hear. They don't take the time to reason and analyze.

    You can't stop people from talking about you. The only thing you can do is know the truth, inside yourself, and find peace in that truth.

    Personally, I think it is a good thing to present the truth of a matter to those who might have an interest in the situation. Whether or not people consider what you have said, when making their determinations, is another thing you have no control over. Nevertheless, the truth is a good thing to put forth.

    Someone once said, "It doesn't matter what they call you. What matters is what you answer to."

    *steps down off soapbox*


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  7. Tangled Metal

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    Looks like maybe you were one of the people the "Fake Rowan" upset because you never have anything to say on any of my threads that isn't rude, uncalled for or productive. If I did something to you please PM me and we will take care of it in private. Otherwise, maybe if you can't type something nice you should not type at all?

    I was trying to inform people that someone may be impersonating me and I did not want that to reflect on the real me because I try to be a decent guy. I would rather not have to start a new account with a different name on Stratics and change the names of 12 year old characters in game because someone pretended to be me and did some mean and nasty things to people I know.
     
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    Wait a minute, you're a guy, and your board name is Elizabeth? I get playing female characters, but what the ????
     
  9. Tangled Metal

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    I named the character after my daughter Rowan Elizabeth. So, when I created my original Stratics account I named it Rowan Elizabeth so that people here and in game would know me. It really isn't that weird when you think about it.
     
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    fixed
     
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    I could care less about you and your misadventures...that was the point of my post. 99.9% of the people here had no idea there was any issue until you made mention of it here and on atlantic. I sure didn't.

    Say something nice? I recall some choice words you had for me when I simply reminded you of uninsured items at the previous rares fest. I really do not feel like giving you the pleasure of kindness when all I have received from you is egocentric smugness.

    Now as far as something crappy happening to you, try not to tick people off and normally you can avoid that aspect of crappiness. (I am making an assumption based on my previous experience with you)
     
  13. Tangled Metal

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    Yes, those appear to be a few of my last posts before I left the game.
     
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    Thank you for letting us know.

    -Galen's player
     
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    ROWAN LIZBETH U OWE ME 20 BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1




    Wait, theres a rares festival on Pacific? *looks*


    ROWEN LIZBETH OWES ME SUM RAREZZZ!
     
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    It happens at one time or another. Back in the day, I had it happen a lot as even then I had a high level of trust by the community. Course my situation was made easier when they stopped allowing names like mine to be created. However, prior to that it happened all the time. Folks should be checking with you on ICQ prior to transactions, if they aren't doing something as simple as that as verification, that's their fault.

    Think of a way you can help those you deal with verify the legit character and work under that. Its happened to most of us who deal in high-end items or serve the community as brokers.

    ~ Assia Penryn
     
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    Forum: UHall 10-17-2007, 08:07 PM
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    The History of the ABM for all that want to Know
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: The History of the ABM for all that want to Know

    There was a time for about a year when the ABM was in poor form so I made real breakfast and coffee for about 9 months of that. There are a few people here who might remember my old username Eric of...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 10-06-2007, 10:52 AM
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    "A Robe.."
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: \"A Robe..\"

    I just sold one on Atl for 3 mil
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-21-2007, 06:44 AM
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    PC on a few things...
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    PC on a few things...

    Would like to find out what these are worth and if anyone is interested in them. All items are on Atlantic.

    1. Double Blessed Evil Mage 1/2 Apron
    2. "A Robe" blessed
    3. Full set of Practice...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-18-2007, 05:06 PM
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    Rares and Event Items on my vendor!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares and Event Items on my vendor!!!

    Prices Dropped on Vendor!!!
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-16-2007, 06:32 PM
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    Rares and Event Items on my vendor!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Rares and Event Items on my vendor!!!

    On Atlantic, just inside the East Entrance to Luna on the North Side of the Road. Vendor Name: Quitting UO Rares! Shop Name: Rock Bottom Prices!
    Items include:
    Full Valentines Bag
    Wig
    Bloody...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-15-2007, 11:38 AM
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    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Auction Extended til Thursday!!!

    Here are the list of winners! The rest of the items will be up for grabs on my vendor shortly.

    Private Bidder Won:
    1. Shackles (Server Birth) 25 Mil - Bid is 28 Mil
    17. Tree Orniment Jewelry...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-13-2007, 03:34 AM
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    how many older big collectors are left still?
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: how many older big collectors are left still?

    Correction, I left Origin several months ago. Been on Atlantic since then.
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-12-2007, 06:55 PM
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    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Last Chance Auction Ends Sept 8th at Midnight

    good question! =]
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-12-2007, 06:09 PM
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    Just a few questions on these?
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Just a few questions on these?

    "A magic (weapon name)" compared to magic (weapon name) rare if so what are they worth?
    They are not worth a lot as someone with GM item ID can idetify them and they loose the "magic" tag. You can...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-12-2007, 06:01 PM
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    PC boat says only ''Ship Model- blessed'' on europa from recent castle faller?
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: PC boat says only \'\'Ship Model- blessed\'\' on europa from recent castle faller?

    "Ship Model" blessed is a docked ship named Model and it is not HTML. At some point there was a patch that eliminated th "A" in several things. So "A Ship Model" blessed is just pre-patch docked...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-12-2007, 05:58 PM
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    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Last Chance Auction Ends Sept 8th at Midnight

    "Ship Model" blessed and "A Ship Model" blessed are both a docked ship named Model. "Ship Model" NOT blessed is the server Birth Rare. Just wanted to clear that up for you guys!
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-10-2007, 03:19 PM
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    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Last Chance Auction Ends Sept 8th at Midnight

    Given that Stratics was down and is still really buggy I am extending the auction for 3 days for anyone who wants to bid. The ship model is sold. So Thursday night at midnight is the cutoff. PM or...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-07-2007, 09:49 AM
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    PC on full ranger armor set + myrmidon and death essence's part
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: PC on full ranger armor set + myrmidon and death essence\'s part

    yes, i am selling shoot me an offer and we'll talk.
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-07-2007, 07:39 AM
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    PC on full ranger armor set + myrmidon and death essence's part
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: PC on full ranger armor set + myrmidon and death essence\'s part

    I have a Greymist Chest (one of the rare pieces) on Atlantic and was wondering what it is worth.
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-07-2007, 07:38 AM
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    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Last Chance Auction Ends Sept 8th at Midnight

    No gold for sale at the moment but will have some soon at $1.50 per mil
    Bids from PM updated on list.
    Also looking to sell my 16%LRC MR1 Scrappers if anyone is interested!
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-07-2007, 04:06 AM
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    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Last Chance Auction Ends Sept 8th at Midnight

    Just a reminder this is about to come to a close. So if you want anything you need to bid soon!
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-03-2007, 09:12 AM
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    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Auction Extended til Thursday!!!

    Extending the auction until Thursday due to Stratics being down!

    OK Here is the last of my stuff up for grabs. All Items are on Atlantic Shard. The Auction Ends Midnight Central Time on...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 09-02-2007, 06:58 AM
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    Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!

    Ok. Last day for this what does not sell today and tomorrow will go on my vendor! I lost several ICQ's and PM's so if you bid on anything please contact me again!
    Thanks!
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 08-29-2007, 04:10 AM
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    Portable Ballot Box
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Portable Ballot Box

    Yes, I have one also. Had it for about 6 or 7 years now. I have been told on several occasions that they are no longer illegal. If anyone is interested in 1 please see my thread on selling my rares.
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 08-24-2007, 04:07 AM
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    Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!

    reorganized!
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 08-23-2007, 03:20 PM
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    Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!

    you made a bid on 2 items. your bid was less than 1/2 of the selling price on 1 of the items and you still have the high bid on the other item. sorry that 1 of the items sold, but if you look it...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 08-22-2007, 03:36 PM
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    Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!

    Just a reminder that I would like to see this stuff go by the end of the month.
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 08-19-2007, 09:50 PM
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    Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!

    Portable Ballot Boxes have been considered legal for a couple of years now. They were removed from the bannable list sometime around the time that sigle hued items were removed as far as I know. ...
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 08-19-2007, 06:30 PM
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    Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!

    Truely sorry about that DevilsOwn. An offer was made on a package deal that I just could not refuse. Contact me via PM or ICQ and lets see if I can make it up to you somehow.
    Forum: UO Rares Collector 08-19-2007, 12:15 PM
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    Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!
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    Posted By Rowan Elizabeth
    Re: Rares For Sale! Current pricing listed!

    O.K. Some of the items that have not yet been bid on are for sale on my vendor just inside the East entrance of Luna City on the north side of the road. The Vendor name is UBER Rares!!! I also Have...
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    Sorry not sure why the link I posted earlier doesn't seem to work, so this is merely a way to try to correct that.
     
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    did this person jack your ICQ as well? i have been dealing with a Rowan Elizabeth who has the same interests as you for the last year and a half that you claim to have been gone. in addition, the signature about your lovely daughter has been resident as well...
     
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    I came back to the game in December of 2009 and also started a new icq so, if you have been dealing with Rowan Elizabeth for a year and a 1/2 it was not me. Would you please PM me the icq number you have for this person?
     
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    you are Janna of yew on ATL, correct?
     
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    Yes, Jaana of Yew is one of mine.
     
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    i am done here
     
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    Now I am really confused.
     
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    Ugh, XLaCeDX, I clicked on your link thinking it was to a list of posts and ended up on his list of recent visitors. I hate ending up on recent visitors lists! =)

    I have only gone to four board member profiles on purpose. So, folks, if I am on your list it is because I have some kind of link clicking syndrome or something. I'm pretty sure everyone must feel better now, knowing that I didn't actually have any interest in them or their information. :eek:

    Am I the only one who doesn't like ending up on someone's "I was checking you out" list? Surely, I'm not alone. =)

    Then again, I love it when I see people have been to my profile page. (Go ahead, click to it!) I should put something interesting there for people to see.


    BlissMarie

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    "Rowan Elizabeth" brings up over 20,000 results on Google.

    How do you justify a 100% claim on those two names put together, again?
     
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    Personally, I have the opinion that online multiplayer games, which allow people to live in a virtual world, once a name is picked for a character they should no longer allow that same name to be picked by any other character. And this should be across shards (because of transfers).

    Not even if the account with that name becomes active.

    New names could be similar, perhaps, but never the same.

    Sort of like e-mails login names which can never be the same.
     
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    Just like in the real world, where once someone gets a name, nobody else is allowed to use it, that's why there's only one John, one Joe, one Bill, one Chris, one Phil...
     
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    I'm going to have to agree with Aran's sarcasm. Just be unique with your name, and if someone tries to imitate you, well whoopie. We have name change tokens, or you could counter imitation, has childhood taught you nothing popps?
     
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    Thing is, that in real life one has parents, sometimes brothers and/or sisters, has a birth date and birth town and so forth to DIFFERENTIATE.

    It is almost impossible over the almost 7 billion people who live on earth to find 2 individuals with the same name, who were born on the same day, the same town, with the same parents' names and so forth.
    So, it is always possible to differentiate.

    In UO, we have none of that.

    That is why it should not be possible to pick same names in the game.

    Or, another way could be to have it shown, by the name on the paperdoll, the "creation time" of that character (sort of like the birth date).

    This way, it would not be possible to mix up 2 characters with the same name because hardly they will have also the same creation date and time.
     
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    Well... we have Skin tone, character age, Skill titles, Armor peices, clothes, Accessory color, Ring/brace (if visible) Text color, Mount type, Guild tag, guild title, shard location.

    Damn you're right, there is no way to differentiate people!
     
  31. popps

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    Those are all player modifyable characteristics.

    Should a player want to impersonate someone else, they can pick the same skin color and blah blah and virtually make a clone of someone else.

    I do not think this should be possible nor allowed in the game.

    Therefore, I think that there should be some unique identification of a character showing to the publilc on the paperdoll so that noone can be induced in error to think 2 same named characters are under control of the same player.
     
  32. Aran

    Aran INFRACTION INFRACTION INFRACTION!
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    So if you don't like non-unique character names, and a host of other things in UO... might I suggest you go play WoW, like you seem perfect for?
     
  33. Konge

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    So shard and guild aren't enough?

    Lets say your name is... Oh Bob.

    Bob was an ass one day to someone who didn't appreciated it so he made another Bob.

    Now Evil bob bought every item the other bob had, even the crafted one of a kind item that the other bob didn't imbue, evil bob found on on the evil market (That's where all the evil twins get their items, don't you know) So bob drops a couple mil for enough dyes to make his suit look exactly the same, even the glacial hair dye evil bob found, so evil bob trained all night and day (more like 5 hours of hitting a golem) to get legendary swordsman and chivalry and bushido cuz thats how true bob roles. But evil bob is in a predicament! Bob is in a guild! The initials are WTF? ! That's four letters! evil bob can't make a duplicate guild! SO he has to join! So all the Emmies are mentally chalanged so they let evil bob in because he said he was good bob, so good bob logs on and is like WTF? No pun intended! So he calls out the guild leader and explains the situation! But evil bob is a crafty ******! He calls out the guild leader too! Now, good bob is anti-social and none of the emissaries know him enough to differentiate between the two so they're both kicked, evil bob is still crafty so he makes a guild called TRUE and acts like good bob, now the guild leaders convinced and reguilds evil bob and good bob self-destructs because that's what happens to guildless androids.
     
  34. Petra Fyde

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    Popps, if everyone had been wiser 12 years ago that might have been possible, but none of us, including the developers at that time had the benefit of hindsight. Now there are far too many film and book char names identical across multiple shards.
    It is true that sometimes people copy characters with the deliberate intent of discrediting the known user of that character name and identity. That's been done to me and was rampant when smiths stood the forges. In fact an important factor in the introduction of repair deeds.
    Further discussion on here is, I think, unnecessary. Rowan Elizabeth had a statement to make. That has been done.
     
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