A guild mate had a crisis the other day, one of his old potted plants had fallen under the foundation. And no matter how he or I or the whole guild positioned ourselves we could not get it to budge. I sent a crisis ICQ to Sarsmi, and in her infinite patience and sheer goddess.. ness searched and found this thread. I just thought I should post it in here so it doesn`t get swallowed again. Thanks to Sarsmi and thanks to the one who found the solution to the problem.