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Leather wolves ??

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  1. popps

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    I have been trying to hunt these (Leather Wolf - Hunter's Guide - UO Stratics) but am having trouble.

    I need loads of them (need to stock up 200 wolf skins...) and so far, in the areas listed as their spawn, Fishermans Reach, High Plain, Northern Steppes, I have been unable to find a steady and fast spawn.

    They respawn scattered and so one needs to look for them thus wasting time and, since only 1 in 4-5 has a skin, I will need some 800-1,000 kills before I am done.

    Has anyone found anywhere a steady respawn for these where one can more fastly hunt them ?

    Thanks.
     
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    Craft one with a Tinker, then have them attack something. Kill the one's it summons.....
     
  3. MalagAste

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    What would you like the delivered to your doorstep?

    Play the game for cripes sakes and quit being such a complainer. Don't try to put an easy button on UO.

    Or play TC exclusively so you can have it easy.
     
  4. popps

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    Around where the Leather Wolves spawn, there's a silver serpents spawn. It is amazing how fast that spawn is. In no time one can get tens upon tens of silver serpents. And they all spawn in close quearters, no need to wander around to look for them.

    The issue is not being handed things easy, the issue is between spawns handled differently.

    Silver serpents only yield the Venom which is hardly needed and yet, they spawn a go-go.

    Leather Wolves yield reflective eyes and skins which are more needed and yet, they spawn with a fraction of the speed of silver serpents and on top of it, on random locations.

    Go figure....
     
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    Well, gosh darn it. This is totally screwed up! Everything should spawn exactly the same, have a defined spawn area and high enough but not too high respawn rate. Why can't these folks get things right?

    :wall:
     
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    :thumbup:
     
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    Stop it. Just stop it.
     
  8. Sevin0oo0

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    That says it right there, the more needed, the more 'rare', hence less spawn
     
  9. For the casual fair and honest player everything we do should be casual fair and honest. That holds true for spawn rates.
     
  10. MagicStar

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    why say this?
    hes just asking if anyone knows a better spot or way
    people like you only make matters worse hes only asking for help
    i bet if anyone other than popps asked this question youd be nicer?

    popps ignore this person because i for one enjoy reading your posts and think you often have valid questions
    uo needs more players like popps and less players like MalagAste
     
  11. olduofan

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    true VERY TRUE :gun:
     
  12. Lord Frodo

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    Leather Wolf Skin is a quest item needed for the quest Armor Up given by Zosilem the Alchemist in Royal City Ter Mur. It can be obtained from the Leather Wolfs as a loot.

    Armor Up
    This quest is a Tier 2 quest given by Zosilem the Alchemist who can be found in the Royal City of Ter Mur.

    Quest Objective
    Obtain 5 Boura Skin
    Obtain 10 Undamaged Iron Beetle Scale
    Obtain 10 Leather Wolf Skin

    Why do you need over 200 of these?
     
  13. AirmidCecht

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    These forums are for generating discussion and getting input from players. As long as it's done constructively and not to spray yourself with glitter for attention there is no harm.

    Just take care not to overtap the fountain of information available and exasperating readers. We have an amazing community here and I can't imagine playing UO without the wealth of information everyone contributes. We also need to remember that just because someone has repeated questions doesn't mean it serves more harm than good. I for one forgot about leather wolves when I'm out hunting for silver serpent venom. I could have been stockpiling as I go *smiles*
     
  14. popps

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    Well, as I see it, the logic would need to be not that all spawns were made equal but more that if a spawn is more needed then another type of spawn, whatever the reasons, then such a spawn should be handled accordingly.

    I do remember changes made to spawns so that players could "farm" that spawn faster....

    Spawns did not use to be toe-to-toe so to speak (new MoB spawning right after...). This was changed due to players complaining and then, since respawn was too fast, another change was introduced to have special items drop in players' backpacks so that players could just go to a spawn, mindlessly kill MoBs without even opening up their backpacks a go-go since they were made to respawn right away, and after XYZ killings get the special items they wanted in their backpacks.

    Things were changed because players wanted those changes and because the reason was they wanted the items from those spawns.....

    So, I am not talking anything new for UO........
     
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    Damn, now I have to take a shower in order to post here?
     
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    I just wanted to ask if you guys ever get tiered of trolling people ? I mean if you don't have something to add that is constructive why open your mouth ? or put fingers to keys... ? Because you have no common courtesy or compassion for anyone except your self. Take a good look at your vile personalties.
     
  17. olduofan

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    ha I agree some very cruel peeps here :sad4:
     
  18. popps

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    So are you saying that the underlying logic is that fastest respawns are for the least used up items while the most needed items call up for least respawns ?

    Then I do not understand why in the past spawns where increased (and a whole lot too) in their pace and items where made to drop in players' backpacks....

    That stepped up "farming" to a new hight...........

    I find it kinda contradictory........
     
  19. Lord Frodo

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    Why is this spawn needed more over other spawns. You are collecting wolf skins and the only thing these are used for is 1 quest. Still unanswered is why do you need over 200 of these when it only takes 10 for the quest.
     
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    Because to advance to Tier 3 one needs to complete 20 Tier 2 Quests.... And 10 x 20 = 200 ........
    I will also need 200 Undamaged Iron Beetle Scale and 100 Boura Skins and some 40 hours spans (Tier 2 Quests can only be taken 1 every 2 hours...) but that is another story....
     
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    Out of curiosity, why would one need to much silver serpent venom ?
    At the North spawn silver serpents spawn like crazy so you can have all the venom you may ever want at that spawn but ain't this venom just used for dyes ?

    What is the point of stockpiling it ?? How much dyeing one can ever need to do ?
     
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    Depends, some folks like to keep it stockpiled since the vials stack. Besides what are you going to do with hundreds of decorative plants in various colors? Most you can't even sale, might as well turn them into dyes.
     
  23. popps

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    Exactly.

    The only thing they are needed is for that Quest and the reason a player needs 200 of them is because there is the forced need to take 20 times that given Quest to advance to Tier 3.

    So, THIS particular item has VERY HIGH chances that any player interested in it might need 200 wolf skins........

    And as the spawn is, right now, it spells for some 800-1,000 wolves kills which, with random location respawn, means a LOT of hours before the goal is reached......

    Since this Quest is the only one use for this item and since chances are any average player may need 200 of such item, I jusy happen to think the spawn should be more player friendly with either the skins drop more or the wolves respawns be more efficient like in same location and faster.

    Besides, to advance to Tier 3 one ALSO needs 200 Undamaged Iron Beetle Scale and 100 Boura Skins which spell for a lot MORE hours into the task so, it is not like having a more friendly leather wolves respawn the job has been done because it only started........
     
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    IMHO Bottom line is YOU are now doing this quest and YOU think it takes to long to do. We await for your next request to have the spawn turned up on the other needed items.

    IMHO YOU think everything YOU are doing takes to long (read all your posts) and want everything done faster and easier. If everything was set up to do as fast and easy as YOU think they should be than everyone could do everything in UO in a month. No thank you.
     
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    To Turn Base Metal into Verite
    To Turn Base Metal into Verite is a Tier 2 quest given by Zosilem the Alchemist who can be found in the Royal City of Ter Mur.

    Quest Objective
    Obtain 5 Undead Gargoyle Medallions
    .....Undead Gargoyle Medallion is a quest item needed for the quest To Turn Base Metal into Verite given by Zosilem the Alchemist in Royal City Ter Mur. It can be obtained from the Undead Gargoyles as a loot.
    .....Undead Gargoyle spawn during the third level of the Primeval Lich Champion Spawn found in the Stygian Abyss Dungeon. Medusa also uses them as guardians.


    Obtain 1 Pile of Inspected Verite Ingots
    ..... Pile of Inspected Verite Ingots is a quest item needed for the quest To Turn Base Metal into Verite given out by Zosilem the Alchemist in Royal City Ter Mur. It can be obtained by giving 20 Verite Ingots to Zosilem the Alchemist.

    100 Undead Gargoyle Medallions
    400 Verite Ingots
     
  26. Thunderz

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    Poops, the very first post told you how to do it the fastest possible way, make 2 and set them to kill each other and every minute they will each summon 4 wolves you can kill from the confort of your own house.


    Thunderz
     
  27. Deb

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    Wait for it (This will be interesting)
     
  28. Lord Frodo

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    :lol:
     
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    I wasn't referring to stockpiling venom darlin, I forget there are all sorts of ingredients out there (leather wolves for instance) that can be gathered at the same time that can be put to future use.
    *pulls a Picard*
     
  30. I see Pops did master GM fishing. Nice 120 pops. Lots of bites.
     
  31. popps

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    Actually, if you read again my OP, ALL I WAS ASKING was whether anyone might have found, through game play, a better spawn, other than those listed in the link I indicated, so as to make the getting of wolf skins less time consuming.

    Yes, since a whole load of them are needed, and since I will ALSO need to gather 200 Undamaged Iron Beetle Scale and 100 Boura Skins I am trying to make all this not take forever. Is that such a bad thing ?

    I see very often posts of players, one way or the other, trying to make their gaming, their hunting more efficient and less time consuming, now I say it and all of a sudden it becomes such a bad thing to want to do ??

    Excuse me ?
     
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    You think the leather wolves is time consuming..... [concidering they can be farmed from the confot of your home and collect over 500 in about an hour]....

    Wait till you get to the beetles, trust me you will give up then lol i did.

    Cant wait to read your post about the beetles [s******s] rolleyes:

    Thunderz
     
  33. Risso

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    Don't leather wolves spawn in the Cavern of the Discarded?
     
  34. LordDrago

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    1. See post 2

    2. Try not to feel the need to accomplish this goal as quickly as possible (I know this is hard to do sometimes). It is often the more difficult journey that makes the destination so much more rewarding.

    3. Find someone like me. I routinely hunt stuff just for fun, and collect all sorts of stuff. For example, I recently found a stash of approx 12K zoogi fungi in one of my characters bankboxes. Go figure. I have made some friends since I came back, and some of them stock vendors which find my particular affliction beneficial. And I enjoy huntingout the stuff.
     
  35. LordDrago

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    No, but you can get reflective eyes there
     
  36. Liquid_Ape

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    <off topic>

    Why is it that nearly anyone here can make a simple post like, "Is there a place where monster XXX spawns faster than it does in location YYY?" and will get an answer. BUT, if Popps asks the question, then you have a select group of trolls who insult him, refuse to answer and end up forcing him to explain why he needs the information? In the middle of all the extra nonsense someone will toss out a genuine answer and it gets lost in all the noise.

    Ya know what, if you don't like his stuff, put him on ignore and leave him alone. It gets so old, reading his posts and having others hop in his threads insulting him and being completely condescending. It's people like you who make others not want to play this game.

    Go troll someplace else.
     
  37. Willard

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    Commends Popps for keeping his replies civil and not being baited into negatively fueling posts that are just mean and nonconstructive:)
     
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    Exactly, just dont comment and move on.
     
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    Easier said than done.

    Other players before have hit the wall trying to gather them, fruitlessly....

    Check out
    Mind you, it is others pointing it out, not me.......
     
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    I have said that same thing a whole lot of times....

    There is no need whatsoever that people have to read my posts, they DO HAVE THE OPTION not to open my threads, period.

    Yet, often they choose to get in and force me into heated discussions.

    Mind you, I do not disdain arguments so it is no biggie for me still, it beats me why they do it.

    I will keep posting as I see the need.
     
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    I agree more often with pops on his questions and dont see why some people fuss so much over him. he asks the questions i want to ask most times.

    thou i dont agree that things have to be "fair"
     
  42. MalagAste

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    Lets just put the whole dang game on easy......

    Hunting is hunting... Do you thing when you go deer hunting that they spawn right there in front of you for you to just shoot them down?

    Get serious.

    And to all you others Shame on you.

    And troll me go right ahead I'm just stating the truth....

    Get off your lazy buns and play the freaking game.

    And stop trying to make it so easy.......


    Yes Silver serpents spawn fast and for that they have NOTHING worth taking on them.

    Things that are worth hunting shouldn't spawn too quickly or easily.

    PERIOD!
     
  43. Espilce

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    Popps - I luv you too.

    Keep up all of the good questions! :)
     
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    Ain't it already ??

    Just need to be among the few well informed attending some EM Event, get a "new" rare item or two and transfer it to some other shard and sell it for tens upon tens of millions....

    What is so tough about it if I may ask ??

    Yet, I hardly hear anyone complaining about the new "rares factory" that EM Events have become making the whole game ridicolous but when players, me included, dare to question aspects of the game which could get improved and made more player friendly this means wanting things "handed out" ??

    Gimme a break.........

    How much sense does it make that I went to a whatever EM Event that took me perhaps 1 hour if at all, grabbed a new rare and then sold it like for 30 millions gold and then if I need to advance to Tier 3 of the Zosilem Quests I need 200 Wolf Skins, 200 Undamaged Iron Beetle Scale and 100 Boura Skins which would take me -as the drops and current spawns are-, weeks to gather all ??
    Say I offered to buy these 500 items at 50k each, it makes a total of 25 millions. So, rather than spending weeks to gather them I could go to a EM Event, grab a "new" rare spending 1 hour if at all, sell it for 25 millions and use this gold to buy the 500 resources I need.
    I would end up moving to Tier 3 with only about 1 hour work or so rather than the weeks I would need gathering them myself.

    I do not know others but personally, I see this as Design I have trouble agreeing with when it might make it to play out as a deterrant for players to actually play the damn game on their own and thus gather the needed items on their own but pushes players to find other, creative ways (like attending the new rares factory that EM Events have become...) to reduce the time needed to be invested into game activities to get somewhere.

    One of the reasons I often see as presented to justify scripting and the macroing of activities in the game is because they are either too time consuming or designed in a way that it is not fun or interesting for the player to carry them out in the intended way.

    Well, I see the gathering of such a vast quantity of resources with the current drop rates and spawn dynamics as pretty much a similar situation, it is designed in a way that it may prompt players to try find other "creative" ways to get around the time consuming problem....
    One thing is hunting for one, or two, another is hunting for some 1,000s..........
     
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    Ugh, except it is YOUR choice to hunt for 1,000s. No single quest needs you to get 200 skins. Only quest I know of that needs this skin is the Armor Up quest that needs only 10. So you have only yourself to blame for finding out getting 200 isn't going to be a walk in the park.
     
  46. Keep it coming this is great.

    Lets see... we know where the wolves spawn.
    We know you can use created/summoned wolf.

    We know it takes time to get them. So post is done right?

    So lock it. Questioned answered.

    Nah. This is a good read.

    SPPST... You know Pops already new the answer to his original question right?

    Go read it again. Carefully. Notice the part about how much time it takes. That is what is bothering him. He just wanted to make a point.

    Here is his quote:

    "They respawn scattered and so one needs to look for them thus wasting time and, since only 1 in 4-5 has a skin, I will need some 800-1,000 kills before I am done."

    Pops is smart. He already found them. Now go read his replies. Its about the above.
     
  47. Sevin0oo0

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    feel free...

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    Last I knew it, it is a requirement of the game to run 20 of these quests to progress to the next Tier up....

    Meaning, that the 10 items you mention must be gathered not 1 time, not 2 times, but 20 times as a requirement of the game...... Hardly a choice.
     
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    You tell me now........, what is the point to have Leather Wolves spawn as they spawn, random locations, scarce drop rates for skins, when infact players have another, MUCH preferrable option to stay home, craft a few Leather Wolves and have them fight each other summoning their buddies from which to harvest the skins ??

    I mean, PLEASE, PLEASE, give me 1 logical conclusion as to why the regular spawn must be much time consuming when then player ARE given an alternate option to spawn the damn things at their best convenient location and then just open their hands and get the skins ??

    It may make sense to others but it does not to me.

    As I personally see it, the crafting "trick" should not be allowed as it smells way too much to me as a work around, but then the regular spawn should definately not be as time consuming as it is now. That is, drop rates for skins should be more frequent (like 1 every 2 kills) and either have more leather wolves spawn or have their random spawn locations be closer to each other for easier finding from players.
     
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    No one is forcing you to do this, so YES, it is a choice. There have been many tips on how to to get more skins and yet you're spending your time arguing here.
     
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