And no it isn't what to make to get there, so Basara you won't have to re-paste that for the 200th time. I'm at 115 now. My question\issue\dilema is whether or not to buy a 120 scroll or keep trying to get the bods I need to get my own 120 scroll. If I go the route of doing it myself (which is what the original plan was) how long am I looking at? I have two LBOD's that will get me the 120 scroll but none of the BOD's to fill them I've tried shopping around but haven't had any luck, but have seen several 120 scrolls. Guess I'm really wondering what others have done. Do it yourself or did you buy one? Thanks in advance.