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Let Us Pay Our Vendors With Checks.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Mr Artifact, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. Mr Artifact

    Mr Artifact Guest

    to keep our vendors up and running we sometimes need to drop gold coins on them. gold can be very heavy and we may have to take numerous trips with a pack animal to just keep our vendors paid. i request allowing us to also drop gold checks on our vendors to keep our vendors paid to make things easier and faster.
     
  2. Pfloyd

    Pfloyd Colorblind Collector
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    If you have a friend or a friendly stranger you can put a check for the same amount as the check itself...so sell a 1Mgp check for 1M and viola paid up vendor
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    You can buy a BOD out of your own BOD book. That is the best way to stock up vendors with gold.
     
  4. Mr Artifact

    Mr Artifact Guest

    not everyone in uo has friends in uo or numerous friends that are around when ever they need them Pfloyd. as for me i only have a few uo friends and there hardly ever on when i am on because they live in a differnt time zones and there usually sleeping when i am on so that would make things difficult for me.
     
  5. Mr Artifact

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    your solution JCtheBuilder i believe has atleast one flaw. suppose you only have one account and none of your trusted friends are around or are on that is if you have any that you trust that much and that trust you that much. unless i am mistaken you cannot buy from your own vendor if the vendor is on the same account as the buyer not everyone has multiple accounts if i am wrong let me know thanks.
     
  6. GarthGrey

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    Most of the time JC knows what he's talking about. I don't think he would offer that solution if it weren't doable with a single account.
     
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    your solution JCtheBuilder i believe has atleast one flaw. suppose you only have one account and none of your trusted friends are around or are on that is if you have any that you trust that much and that trust you that much. unless i am mistaken you cannot buy from your own vendor if the vendor is on the same account as the buyer not everyone has multiple accounts if i am wrong let me know thanks.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    JC is correct in that you can buy BODs from your own vendor. Just put the BODs into a BOD book and price it at whatever amount of gold you want the vendor to hold. Then, simply buy the BOD and you're all set. I use this to stock any vendors I place and have never had any problems. It is also really nice, as there is no delay between placing the BOD book on the vendor and buying the BOD, as there is with most items. Just make sure you set the book to be not for sale (hit escape after putting on the vendor) and you can buy at will.
     
  8. nnnnnnnope ...
    500 gp = 10 stone
    been that way/weight ... for quite some time ...

    Vendors being used as "unlimited item count branch banks"(storing masses of checks ... essentially for free ... )
    stock em with checks ... unavailable to veiw ... keep their "wares" on display empty ... [​IMG]

    [​IMG] Thanks to JC ... now there's a reason to reveiw ... ALL excess gp ... held upon vendors .. [​IMG]

    What? "Legit players" ?? nothing to hide ... right? they are vendors NOT CHEAP BANKS ...
    Flag a notice on the login screen ...
    Proper prior warning ...

    fore warned ... fore armed
    [​IMG] yeah ... the dam scritter scum "gets a warning too .."

    WHO do you think ... have MORE gp stockpiled ... in this manner?
    Legit? scritter-scum? ... [​IMG]

    Tooo much Gold IN the economy ... aye? AYE ??!!!
    [​IMG]

    Brilliant serendipitous revelation ... op ...

    revealed the scritter scums stash ... perhaps ...[​IMG]

    btw ... NO on the pay by check idea ...
    UNTIL the banking capacity gets worked out ...

    [​IMG] and a tip-o-da-hat
     
  9. i almost went into epileptic shock reading your post o_O
     
  10. [​IMG] Why? got a lot of gold stored on vendors?

    8 smileys "almost trigger" an episode ?
    Too much "punctuation" ?

    Last two cured by avoiding the boards ..
    First one ... well .. [​IMG]

    [​IMG] time will tell
     
  11. Mr Artifact

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    no i only have a few hundred k on my vendors combined not everyone stores gold on there vendors i dont. and i dislike scripters i dont script.
     
  12. Theo_GL

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    This thread has gone on too long. NO we don't need to drop checks.

    JC is 100% correct.

    * Get bod book with one bod.
    * Price bod at 1,000,000 or 2,000,000 or whatever.
    * Put book on vendor and hit &lt;esc&gt; so its not for sale.
    * Go into book and buy bod with same acct

    Your vendor is now stocked with gold.

    You don't need two accounts, you can still use this if you are a UO loner, etc.
     
  13. Guest

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    my other char buys multi mil runes or single regs off my vendors all the time to keep the vendor happy without the vendor owner char ever having to haul coin.
     
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    no i only have a few hundred k on my vendors combined not everyone stores gold on there vendors i dont. and i dislike scripters i dont script.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    well GOOD for ya ... glad to read it ... hope it stays that away ...
    stay the path and alla that ...

    Back to your problem/suggestion
    500 gp = 10 stone (verified with real ingame gp)
    5000 gp = 100 stone
    60,000 gp = 1200 stone
    "... few hundred k on my vendors combined ..."
    Well, until the banking capacity is fixed ... adjusted ...
    your gonna need continue ... making those trips.
    sorry.

    As for the Maximum amount of gold ... that can be held on one vendor ..
    Anyone?

    While we wait ...

    for the legit player ... IF the bank aspect is attended

    1,000 checks to hold 1 billion ...
    1,000 lockdowns
    or
    8 chests @ 127 millios per ...
    [​IMG]
    (classic) 2 story villa Storage 1518 lockdowns 759 and up ...
    2 story customizable Storage 1035 lockdowns 517 (7x11) and up ...
    3 story customizable Storage 1587 lockdowns 793 (9x14)(smallest) and up ...

    sorry Theo GL ...

    This thread is only getting started ...

    How about you?
    Too much gold in the economy? ([​IMG] not enough ?)
    Where is it?
    some place "as designed/intended" ?
    Just because legit players have become accustomed to it ...
    SHOULD vendors BE used ... as lockdown storage saving devices?

    Bods have already been given the nod ... no problem with that ...

    Mass quantities of gp, however ... in check form ... STILL no problem ...

    On a vendor? Mass quantities o'gp ... take how many item counts?
     
  15. Cogniac

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    <blockquote><hr>

    As for the Maximum amount of gold ... that can be held on one vendor ..
    Anyone?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    2,000,000,000gp
     
  16. Guest

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    I've had vendors for over 6 years now. I've never had to add any money
    to my vendors other than right at the begining as I was stocking them
    for the first time.

    Maybe your selling your stuff for way too much money??
    Or you need to start stocking cheaper stuff as well as the
    expensive stuff ???
     
  17. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

    nnnnnnnope ...
    500 gp = 10 stone
    been that way/weight ... for quite some time ...

    Vendors being used as "unlimited item count branch banks"(storing masses of checks ... essentially for free ... )
    stock em with checks ... unavailable to veiw ... keep their "wares" on display empty ... [​IMG]

    [​IMG] Thanks to JC ... now there's a reason to reveiw ... ALL excess gp ... held upon vendors .. [​IMG]

    What? "Legit players" ?? nothing to hide ... right? they are vendors NOT CHEAP BANKS ...
    Flag a notice on the login screen ...
    Proper prior warning ...

    fore warned ... fore armed
    [​IMG] yeah ... the dam scritter scum "gets a warning too .."

    WHO do you think ... have MORE gp stockpiled ... in this manner?
    Legit? scritter-scum? ... [​IMG]

    Tooo much Gold IN the economy ... aye? AYE ??!!!
    [​IMG]

    Brilliant serendipitous revelation ... op ...

    revealed the scritter scums stash ... perhaps ...[​IMG]

    btw ... NO on the pay by check idea ...
    UNTIL the banking capacity gets worked out ...

    [​IMG] and a tip-o-da-hat

    [/ QUOTE ]

    you are trying to make excuses for the inflation of the gold piece. you can make these obtuse, meaningless posts all day long. that doesn't make you right.
     
  18. <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    As for the Maximum amount of gold ... that can be held on one vendor ..
    Anyone?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    2,000,000,000gp

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Thats all ?
    [​IMG]
    Seconds or verifications?
    Again .. I don't know precisely ... 'tis why I asked ..

    I always figured it'd be a "power of 2" type number
    2 ^30 = 1,073,741,824
    2 ^31 = 2,147,483,648

    Still 1 vendor ... empty, charging ... What?(only ~~ 240 gp per real day)

    [​IMG]UhOh!!!
    In the KB [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Example: With a base fee of 20gp and 10,000gp of merchandise for sale, the Vendor will charge 20 + ((10,000-500)/500) = 39gp per UO day. Since there are 12 UO days in a real day, that would come to 468gp per real day. Always ask your vendor his status AFTER stocking his inventory. When the vendor runs out of gold, he will vanish, taking all of your inventory with him. <font color=red>Vendors are not intended to be used as banks. </font color=red>Be sure to collect your gold regularly and deposit it into your bank box.

    [​IMG]

    uhoh ...
    it is in the rules

    <font color=red>...</font color=red>
     
  19. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>


    uhoh ...
    it is in the rules

    <font color=red>...</font color=red>

    [/ QUOTE ]

    wow, aren't you just hilarious. that's more of a warning than a rule. if they wanted to enforce a rule they would.

    you need to calm down and stop acting holier than thou. it is offensive and you think you are being intellectual but it's just foolish and boring.
     
  20. <blockquote><hr>

    to keep our vendors up and running we sometimes need to drop gold coins on them. gold can be very heavy and we may have to take numerous trips with a pack animal to just keep our vendors paid. i request allowing us to also drop gold checks on our vendors to keep our vendors paid to make things easier and faster.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    if you have to do this much your vendors are losing you money whats the point in selling stuff if you end up losing money.
     
  21. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    to keep our vendors up and running we sometimes need to drop gold coins on them. gold can be very heavy and we may have to take numerous trips with a pack animal to just keep our vendors paid. i request allowing us to also drop gold checks on our vendors to keep our vendors paid to make things easier and faster.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    if you have to do this much your vendors are losing you money whats the point in selling stuff if you end up losing money.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    you're correct but the OP does have a point. vendors should simply take cash out of a vendor fund. that way all the vendors a person owns can be funded by one cash point. very simple and much better idea. the way it is right now is messy and makes no sense.
     
  22. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    <font color=red>Vendors are not intended to be used as banks. </font color=red>Be sure to collect your gold regularly and deposit it into your bank box.

    [​IMG]

    uhoh ...
    it is in the rules

    [/ QUOTE ]
    That answer must be over 4 years old. Vendors no longer disappear when they run out of gold, they go into the moving crate. Storing gold on a vendor is completely safe as long as it is inside your own home. I store all my gold on vendors. Storing it in the bank or a house would be next to impossible.
     
  23. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    <font color=red>Vendors are not intended to be used as banks. </font color=red>Be sure to collect your gold regularly and deposit it into your bank box.

    [​IMG]

    uhoh ...
    it is in the rules

    [/ QUOTE ]
    That answer must be over 4 years old. Vendors no longer disappear when they run out of gold, they go into the moving crate. Storing gold on a vendor is completely safe as long as it is inside your own home. I store all my gold on vendors. Storing it in the bank or a house would be next to impossible.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    well JC fayled hasn't played the game in 4 f***** years so what can you expect? lol.
     
  24. Where?
    1 single instance
    Where?
    1 quote ... anywhere, by me ... that:
    ("I" am)you are trying to make excuses for the inflation of the gold piece.

    pffft! Thanks for the bump by the anyway ...

    That YOU aren't catching on... *shrugs*

    I am one of the most non-fan of inflation ... well, there Isn't a word for it( I checked, don't bother )
    Tis the basis and foundation of my near indescribable hatred ... err ...[​IMG] excuse me! (capital h) Hatred
    of
    Scritter scum and their Ill Gotten Gains ...

    [​IMG] nvm that ...

    Draconi? Chrissay?
    Hows your black rock supply

    ^^ ... mmmm ?
     
  25. <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    <font color=red>Vendors are not intended to be used as banks. </font color=red>Be sure to collect your gold regularly and deposit it into your bank box.

    [​IMG]

    uhoh ...
    it is in the rules

    [/ QUOTE ]
    That answer must be over 4 years old. Vendors no longer disappear when they run out of gold, they go into the moving crate. Storing gold on a vendor is completely safe as long as it is inside your own home. I store all my gold on vendors. Storing it in the bank or a house would be next to impossible.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hey! modesty doesn't become ya ...

    or whatever your trying for ...

    Age of the rule ... doesn't matter
    History of enforcement, of the rule ... doesn't matter
    where the vendor goes Vendors no longer disappear <font color=red>when they run out of gold</font color=red>, they go into the moving crate
    doesn't matter

    The FLOOD of gold acquired by scritters

    oopsie[​IMG]

    Matters, the ability of the scritters to HIDE THIER GOLD
    in plain sight
    matters
    (well to me, for this thread, well mostly, well kinda alot of the time, well ... not really a clinical obsession ...just a primary guideline really .. pretty strictly adhered to through intent and choice /// yeah ... anyways ...)

    Get ready to make adjustments to hold your mountains of legit millios JC ...
    Small price to pay ...

    As I see it ...
    [​IMG]
     
  26. [​IMG]
    <blockquote><hr>

    wow, aren't you just hilarious. that's more of a warning than a rule. if they wanted to enforce a rule they would.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    [​IMG]
    I believe your imitation of Barbossa:
    "And thirdly, the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules."

    While "cute" ... is still inacurate ... That(above. my post) was a partial quote from the KB ... and not "technically" a warning ...
    More of a statement of what INTENT was meant in the design of the vendors ... watch: "Vendors are not intended to be used as banks."
    The warning/caution stated ...was actually pretty DIRECT ... watch:
    "Be sure to collect your gold regularly and deposit it into your bank box" ...
    [​IMG]
    Just saying ... a warning or caution ... would usually have a "Or else... " "Or maybe ..." "to avoid ..." .... some stated and/or implied/infered consequence
    [​IMG]

    All of which sets up your weak assumption:
    "if they wanted to enforce a rule they would"

    Sets that little pearl up for:
    When they DO action banker vendors ... YOU CAN"T CRY: "there was no rule" (ignorance is no defense)
    YOU CAN"T CRY: there was no Warning(ignorance is no defense ... besides You DID call it a warning)
    YOU CAN"T CRY: the original intent Was to hold the excess gp ... Like a bank ...nuhuh!! tsk! tsk! the quote says different ...

    Hmmmm ... [​IMG]

    I think we've all arrived at a very special place. Spiritually, ecumenically, grammatically.
     
  27. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I don't pay my vendors, they pay themselves, and me. With the one exception of my metal armor vendor on Siege, which I will support just so that the stuff can be available for the few that sometimes buy it.

    I like to see a warrior dressed like a warrior now and then, even if it's costing me. I can afford the 10k or so per week for that indulgence, and since that's all it costs me, I can manage to carry enough gold to do it.
     
  28. Theo_GL

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    well JC fayled hasn't played the game in 4 f***** years so what can you expect? lol.


    [/ QUOTE ]

    You have to stop replying to Failed. It only makes these threads worse. 50% of the posts here are nonsense failed posts. Since Stratics has no way to filter - do what i do - scroll past his and go on to others posts.

    I liked it better when he quit stratics. Of course, his quitting post was like so many others - hollow promises. A month later and he was back.

    I have to question the sanity of someone who spends so much time posting on the message boards of a game they don't play.
     
  29. [​IMG] But I do play (7yrs+... continuous, no "breaks") ...just finished a smith and carpenter (to gm)
    legit ...btw ... harvested the resources click by click without UOA ...

    Just goes to show... as I've been told so many times...
    clever use of astericks and such ... don't make a statement true.

    Just as that some can't catch my drift ...
    doesn't make ME dumb... [​IMG]

    vendors were not intended to be banks
    it is in the Knowlegebase
    Fair chance that more Scritter Scum
    than legit players ...
    are using this as a storage device ...

    hmmm
    wonder whose gonna scream louder ...

    IF any change is made ...


    Burma Shave

    PS ... it was TWO months ...JUST the forums ... and a "Farewell" not an Ironclad carved in stone I'm quitting cause I can't get my way ...

    Just to keep the story straight ...
    Agua Velva
    brrrrr ! [​IMG]
     
  30. It would make sense to be able to add money directly to a vendor's stockpile as easily as it is removed (removing it being just a click out of a menu).
     
  31. Cogniac

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    <blockquote><hr>

    Thats all ?
    [​IMG]
    Seconds or verifications?
    Again .. I don't know precisely ... 'tis why I asked ..

    I always figured it'd be a "power of 2" type number
    2 ^30 = 1,073,741,824
    2 ^31 = 2,147,483,648

    [/ QUOTE ]The vendor gold amount is stored in a Signed Long Int. This allows for a spread of -2,147,483,647 to 2,147,483,647. But that amount doesn't look very pretty, and it probably looks rather arbitrary to the untrained eye, so they programmatically put in a limit of 2,000,000,000 because it is a very round number (and negative values are prevented in much the same way).

    It's the same reason that items are in stacks of 60,000; stacks are stored as Unsigned Ints, which result in a range of 0 to 65,535. That number isn't too pretty either, so they put in a limit of 60,000.

    We should at least be glad that vendor gold isn't stored as an Unsigned Long Long Int. That would give dupers space to store 18,446,744,073,709,551,615gp on each vendor.
     
  32. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Quick tip Silvio.

    Don't bother trying to outflame, or outdo Fayled in any way. You will lose. Sure you may not understand what was said to cause you to lose, but you will. [​IMG]