I know it's been gone for a long time, but I don't think it was ever really answered why it left. Why was the perma-grey status removed from thieves after they stole from players? I, for one, miss it. It added that nice aspect of challenge to playing thief in PvP. For me, it made this nice goal to see how many people I could be grey to before I die. I think it should be brought back. And if would mean thieves could be attacked in trammel (by guard-type NPC's or even players) while in this status, even better. It could even bring a little life into forensic eval. Make it so people with this skill be able to detect perma-grey thieves. And yes, I play a PvP thief.