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Little help here, pls....

Discussion in 'UHall' started by startle, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. startle

    startle Siege... Where the fun begins.
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    My question is regarding the Talisman in the pic below:

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    I'm changing my Tamer's template to include Spellweaving. I would love to use the Birds Talisman in the pic for the Taming/Lore + 5 ea - but the Bird Slayer attribute has me concerned. I know what Slayer weapons, Slayer instruments and Slayer spellbooks do, but what about Slayer Talismans? When do you see the Slayer effect? This only concerns me because I don't slay a lot of birds, so wonder about getting the opposite Slayer effect when I use Word of Death - or when my other Tamer/Bard is wearing it and having it effect his Disco's...
    I've read the Wiki, but am still a bit uncertain...
     
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  2. Tjalle

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    My guess would be that a Bird slayer is not included in the slayer groups that have opposite effects but I donĀ“t know...
     
  3. legendsguy

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    There is no opposing slayer for birds so you will be fine.
     
  4. startle

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    Excellent, tyvm legends
     
  5. Xalan Dementia

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    also if I remember correctly, slayer talismans' slayer properties only work on dexers
     
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    i am sure i had a vermin slayer on my archer and it gave the white flash as to the effects working when i fought ratmen.
     
  7. Herman

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    slayer talismans will not work for mages I think that was what Xalan was saying

    People use the word dexxers for almost all warrior types today
     
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  8. Lord Frodo

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    I think they work for Mages But I know they do not work for Tamers that are using a Pet to do the work.
     
  9. Lord Frodo

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    Slayers go to the damage done by the Char and if I am not mistaken they work for casters as well, but they do not add to Tamers pets.
     
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  10. Herman

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    I have this old memory that they did change that at one point so they do not work for mages but maybe I was wrong

    Thx you for correcting me
     
  11. Lord Frodo

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    Dexxers get double slayer easy Tally and Wep. I could see Mages screaming Spellbook and Tally combo not working. That would be a Major unblance in PvM.
     
  12. Lady CaT

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    Slayer Talismans (ie Bird Slayer, Ice Slayer, etc..) do not work for mage spells. Nor does Killer% ability on a talisman confer any bonus to spell damage for mages.
    Mages use slayer spellbooks instead of talismans. Slayer Talismans (ie Bird Slayer, Ice Slayer) as well as Killer% ability is confered to armed combat weapons.

    However there are talismans like Mana Phasing Orb that give bonuses like Spell Damage Increase 5% that DO work for mages.
     
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    The CaT is correct :)
     
  14. Lord Frodo

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    So Spellcaster can't get a double slayer bonus but Dexxers can? Wounders why the NERF for Spellcasters and why no Spellcaster have been saying anything about this.
     
  15. silent

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    Who said dexxers can get double? I don't think that is the case, and besides even IF that were the case the second slayer would likely be over cap and have no effect anyway.
     
  16. Tazar

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    I don't think you can get double anyway... the slayer types on Books/Weapons don't really overlap with those on Talismans do they?
     
  17. Leira of Asrai

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    I use Repond slayer weapon and Vermin slayer tali at Barracoon champ spawn all the time. Whirlwind with hit area dmg FTW! *Note, Barracoon is only vulnerable to the Vermin tali when he is in rat form.

    This works the same for all the talis, but is subject to the 300% dmg cap.
    Enslaved Goblins (Repond weapon, Goblin tali)
    Ice Fiend (Demon weapon, Ice tali)
    Lich Lord (Undead weapon, Mage tali)
     
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  18. Tazar

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    Nice to know. Thanks. :)
     
  19. Lord Frodo

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    So the Undead Tally and an Undead Slayer would do the same?
    I think if you look at these two pages yop will see that there are more than just a few Slayer Wep and Tally Slayer overlaps. http://www.uoguide.com/Category:Creature_Slayers http://www.uoguide.com/Slayer
    Undead is by far the biggest.
     
  20. Lady CaT

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    Sorry have to join the mage guild to get access to those secrets and we only talk about those at the Legendary meetings. *laughs*
     
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