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looks like a old rare got owned today

Discussion in 'UHall' started by wanderer1origin, Oct 30, 2011.

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  1. wanderer1origin

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    LOL well new developers were looking for a knife fight with rare duper, collectors, lol!!!!!!!!

    wait till effect lands :)
    screaming will be awsome!!!!!!!!

    origin tonight for the win!!
     
  2. Kylie Kinslayer

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    *looks all confused and waits for more info to follow*
     
  3. wanderer1origin

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    looks like a new rare tickets give old rare items, pheonix armour lol!!!!!!!


    QUOTE=Kylie Kinslayer;2038637]*looks all confused and waits for more info to follow*[/QUOTE]
     
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    ...what new rare tickets?
     
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    During Origin's Halloween EM event tonight, some of the mobs dropped tickets for pieces of the Pheonix armor.

    I took a screenshot but forgot to save it :/

    We also got a really cool candalabra!

    [​IMG]

    But more then a few people got the armor tickets.
     
  8. wanderer1origin

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    logged in at end of event and peeps trying to buy:) hate power outages!!
    but lol giving out armour one shard means will be repeated peeps trying to buy for 20m so will be area of new price!!!!!!!!!!!!
    why d the hurt old rares instead of new crap LOL!!!!!!!!!


     
  9. Kylie Kinslayer

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    If that is true....



    Then this would also be true.... sadly that statement may be understating what is to come once the Rares Community get wind of it.

    *runs out to buy ear plugs and dark sunglasses so's I can't read the screen*
     
  10. Bazer

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    God i hate work, id like to get 1 peice of that gear....
     
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    Awesome, all the more reason for me to sell my collection now, and quit tomorrow.
     
  13. THP

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    I dont think any EM would be this dumb??...maybe a misunderstanding??? if they are this dumb...then pack ya bags ya outta here!!
     
  14. THP

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    Let the dupers get hold of just one of these so called tickets....oh lordy...DUMB!!!
     
  15. T-Hunt

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    Yep and now you know why i wish they stop giving out dam **** at events.
    finale point, mach and win.
     
  16. UltimatePower

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    The ems have no idea why the monsters had these items on them. It was not their fault, and they did not intentionally release these tickets.

    Must have been something that happened when Mesanna created the monsters before the event.

    The reward for this event was the candle, from the clicky statue at the end.
     
  17. Viper09

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    Anyone actually see this phoenix armor ticket or is it only a mention from some players so far?
     
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    These points are presented in no order.

    Based on the thread in the rares forum, it wasn't intentional. There was an official reward from the event, a candle, and I've yet to attend an EM event that had 2 rewards. The far more common complaint is having none.

    Origin was created in 2004, Phoenix Armor was available in 1999. In other words, the only way people on Origin had access to this item was by someone transferring on it.

    It's far from without precedent for a hitherto-rare item to become less rare, or not rare at all. Daemon Bone for one, once rare then a common drop from Doom Monsters, and part of the Gauntlet Quest. Once upon a time, Bone Armor wasn't craftable: It was a semi-rare drop from monsters and it provided good protection without a dex penalty. More-recently, but still some years back, we had one of those rare "unintended but legal" things involving those items you get off the ground that are supposed to be locked down but aren't.

    How many times have I read complaints about items being too rare? How many times have I read complaints about items not being rare enough? How many times have I read complaints about rares collectors all being dupers and scammers (which I, for one, do not believe)?

    Damned, in all variations.

    *shrugs*

    -Galen's player
     
  20. A Thought Elemental

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    I would hope that at this stage of UO it does not have working dupe methods.
     
  21. A Thought Elemental

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    If there's a few new "rare" items in the world, who cares, imo

    Back when we had no insurance (and everyone had hiding skill because of all the thieves at the banks, and the main activity in towns was people getting other people guardkilled so they could loot them dry), the only thing I'd PVP in on my dexer was bone armor. You died so often and had everything taken by other players that actually USING crafted or quality armor was senseless, especially on a dexer.

    (And the only rune you carried with you was a rune to the bank, at least on a blue).
     
  22. G.v.P

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    Wow...why are Origin events always so much better than any other shard lol...

    Man, back to planning my life around Origin hahaha.
     
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    If they weren't intended to drop then they should get taken back and given the candle sticks.
     
  24. tuuvaak

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    haha, that stinks.
    i'm hearing there weren't THAT many released though. phoenix suits will most likely retain their value. it isn't like they were tremendously rare anyway. almost every broker bank sits in them now on every shard.

    occasionally rares do tank though. it stinks, but that's part of the fun and excitement of the rares game. the chance of having your brand new collection bankrupted by one lazy EM is also a great way to keep the rares game exclusive. its too much of a gamble for the casual player to wake up to a 250m gold investment completely mucked by a new common event item.
     
  25. Mesanna

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    Hello Everyone,

    I just wanted to comment on this. This was a mistake, some numbers were mistyped and as you know the result was the MOB's having Phoenix Armor on them. The best I can tell only approx a dozen pieces were dropped. We try not to destory the old rares due to the fact thats part of our history of UO.

    No reason for people to get upset over this, again it was a mistake that we feel horrible about but it's done. I am sure since you guys have made a few mistakes in your life time also you understand. *smiles*

    Thanks everyone for hopefully understanding!

    Mesanna

    PS. Don't TP the EM's hall, I take total blame here.
     
  26. Larisa

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    Bad Mesanna! :)

    Thank you so much for coming on here to clarify, I was about to defend my EM's to the death!

    Now I can take it out on you! ;)

    I kid, of course. The event was lovely. Thank you :)
     
  27. Gunga_Din

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    Its not a big deal. Short and Sweet Evil M. Nice
     
  28. Theo_GL

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    Well I think we should have a shard revert ASAP. I mean, MORE of the completely OVERPOWERED Phoenix armor is available? How can we ever compete?

    *end sarcasm*

    I never understand any of the drama over deco items. Its nothing but deco armor. Call me old school but if it doesn't help in a fight - its useless to me.

    You can drop 12 or 12,000 pieces and it doesn't change my gameplay.
     
  29. Larisa

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    It's not about the fact that they are useless...it's about the fact that the armor was only available ONE time, in 1999 during a clean-up event.

    Rare's are just that...same as in real life. People will spend millions of real dollars on a bowl just because it's made of a special glass...Antique!

    The Rare's here in UO are just the same, and the people that collect rare/Antique/Unique items hold on to them for that very reason, cus they are old and cool! :)
     
  30. Theo_GL

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    Great. So what? There is no guarantee or expectation that rares will remain rare. Nothing in the TOS, nothing in on the UO site etc.

    You are *speculating* that they will remain rare and if they don't that is your risk when you pay 80m for some stupid orange armor.

    In real life someone can unearth 20 new paintings by a famous artist that drives the rarity down. No reason why this should be a big issue in UO.

    I also like how the first thing everyone assumes is 'wait till the dupers get ahold of this'. The last time there was true duping was during shard xfers and the dog trick about 4 or more years ago. Hilarious.
     
  31. Larisa

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    LOL I totally agree with you Theo, don't get me wrong.

    The rares/Antiques ppl are an odd breed. My parents are Antique collectors and while most of the things they have are very beautiful, I don't see how they can spend almost $2100 for a tiny little clock that doesn't even work.

    Granted the thing is over 100 years old but it's very plain, nothing special to speak of. They JUST got it fixed for $500..

    The point is people like their stuff, whether it's in a game or in real life, and when their stuff is threatened in anyway, they put their guard up, it's a human instinct..heck it's an animal instinct too...*Don't mess with my stuff!*

    Everyone has their own style of game play...while one person has 10 houses full of BOD's...another might have a house full of *useless* rares.
     
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    You guys do know that the Japanese shards already did this a few years back, except on a scale a couple of orders of magnitude larger, right?
     
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    And why I still think xfers from the Japan shards to any others should be prohibited.
     
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    It's just funny that out of all of the endless uselss numbers of items they could have mistyped (e.g. fish, shirt, book, bag, barrel, plant, etc... etc...) it just happened to turn out to be this valuable Phoenix Armor from 1999.
     
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    Is this not that way rares are created by mistakes? That are the real rares, the deed is now more worth than any piece of this armor ;)
     
  36. at least there was communication on this issue, but WOW. phoenix armor mistakenly given out? remind me to start doing EM events!
     
  37. Slickjack

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    Well, speaking "unofficially" from the Rares community, as an owner of a full set of the Phoenix (and previously another full set that I traded to a guildmate), I can tell you I could care less that a dozen of these tickets dropped.

    Do I want it to become a common thing that items are intentionally OR accidentally re-issued thru new EM events?

    HELL NO.

    But, in the grand sceme of things, I look at it like Lucis stated above.. that the tickets are a "new" rare and that they are as desirable as any single piece of Phoenix armor, and maybe slightly more so.
     
  38. tuuvaak

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    hatersgonnahate.jpg

    for me, PvP died with AoS and PvE died in EQ Classic ten years ago sooo.. all that be boring now.
     
  39. tuuvaak

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    haha yeah, seriously. also - this is why its a good idea to cycle your collections. all manner of awesome items are no longer rare. hell, uniquely labeled clothing used to be very rare, and now there is a new body sash or 'i survived the monotony of some event and all i got was this stupid death robe' robe every 15 minutes. there are so many that it just feels silly to collect them now.
     
  40. tuuvaak

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    ^^^ true and awesome =)
     
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    I think it's great to see another SMALL opportunity to obtain some old piece of UO history in the game again. It's part of the history and is very nostalgic. It's been over a decade since we've seen phoenix armour!

    A few pieces were obtained, that's all. It's done.

    Very good mistake! I'm sure these limited pieces will get snapped up by collectors quickly and will be off the market again for the next decade... No harm done and I think it adds something to the game.


    I'm with one of the other posters aswell... Unless the item has some sort of value in PvP, I wouldn't give you 100gp for it.
     
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    didn't phoenix armor also drop off phoenix's in the fire-t2a passage for a while?
    I swear i remember farming it off them at some point... unless im reaally confused and thinking of farming demon bone off effrets.
    I wanna say it was around 2000-2001 at least for a while and it was a rare drop off them.
     
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    I think you might be confusing it with daemon armor. I don't think the phoenix armor dropped off phoenix creatures. If it did thought it was before 2000-2001.
     

  44. Mesanna,

    That is one of the reasons that you are so well loved here. You step up, explain what happened, take responsibility and move on. Please never leave UO! :)
     
  45. Poo

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    I can't figure this out.

    A mistake was made and a old rare was rerelease on a very small scale.
    Some people freak out.

    A event for the entire community comes out and a rare from the same original event is killed by the millions (item bless deeds) and no one says a word.

    Phoenix armor useless.
    Item bless deeds priceless.

    I really can't figure the online community out.

    I spent years collecting item blessed items at HUGE expense and they are worthless now, but I didn't complain. Ya get use to it after 14 years. Make the sting less? Nope.
     
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    let me start by saying, the event was awesome, I was there for the entire thing, the turnout was large for Origin, but fairly small, and im sure 1/3 of the folks there were on multiple accounts trying to get the event item at the end(candelabra), which I do have 1 and its my current favorite piece. Once the mobs starting coming out, ghosts where everywhere until a few people tag teamed and organized to start taking out the MOBs, which were only a dozenish, I did the majority of the damage on the first 3, and on the 3rd was a ticket and I couldn't believe my eyes, I kept going through the hunt, killing a few more (with a group) the MOBs and the last mob I found 1 more in my loot drop...I know of 2 others that received 1 ticket each as loot but quickly clicked them turning then into a random piece of armor, there was talk about 1 other person receiving 2 of them, and I saw 1 show up on an Atlantic Vendor the next morning...in total I don't think there is 1 full suit of armor made from this...but I am happy with my two tickets here on Origin. Nothing came from the boss other than Standard Slasher loot....all in all, I don't think it hurt the Rare community at all, but adding another rare to the pool, it was wicked awesome fun, and I now own my first valuable piece in the game that I received myself :)
     
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    You were not around to see me tooting my horn over IBD's apparently. It was a solo battle, like most of UO nowadays.
     
  48. Basara

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    So, let me guess?

    What happened was effectively a more valuable version of the "valentine bacon" incident?
     
  49. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    a solo battle... a solo battle...

    so easy to forget about your companion, Avatar ?
     
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    Uhhh, no offense but a terrible comparison. The rl items you speak of are so valuable because they are actually old and cannot be replicated.

    Obviously anyone playing UO realizes that no matter how old an event/rare item may seem to be it can always be duplicated/replicated. Huge difference.

    There can never be an "antique" in UO as anything can be exactly duplicated and age cannot ofc be verified/factored.

    This is why being a UO rares collector will always be a foolish & risky business even though it can still be very lucrative. You should know this up front so no real big issue here.

    :)
     
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