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Looting Code?

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Solikos, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. Solikos

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    Just curious as to any unwritten looting code that is generally followed on siege... Previously I was under the impression that most don't fully loot, but I guess that was a poor assumption... Got jumped by DP (which alone killed my 2 day old character) and looted completely clean (since I don't use bank it had a little zing to it).

    It's obviously not a grudge since I just started on the server... Anyway, this isn't a complaint, though I found it fairly unnecessary / annoying that someone would take a noobs junk... On one hand it makes you wonder why people may get discouraged from Siege (excessive looting). I guess I shouldn't carry diddly squat with me until I'm tough enough to defend myself... Which for the moment is going to be difficult without a house or bank.

    Anyway, sorry if this turned into a somewhat negative post... Really would just like to know what I can generally expect.

    Edit: I know some people are just like that, a couple people were nice enough to give me some decent weapons previously (after pking me) and certainly did not loot.

    Thanks,

    ~ Solikos
     
  2. Revvo

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    If it isn't blessed expect to lose it end of story, if you aren't fully looted then let it be a pleasant surprise.
     
  3. Skylark SP

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    Expect that your corpse is a total write off with each death. That way, if it is otherwise it comes as a pleasant surprise.

    *edit* eeeeep! Revvo jynx!

    -Skylark
     
  4. Solikos

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    That's enlightening... Guess I'll live in Stealth (like the rest of the shard?) until I'm ready to fight back.

    Thanks.

    ~ Solikos
     
  5. TheScoundrelRico

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    Yeah, since the major influx of Trammies to Siege (see the major guilds currently) full looting has become the norm. I believe the age of the average Siege player has also dropped around this same time frame, so that may also have something to do with it.

    If it's not something that you can live with, Siege won't be for you...although you seem to have handled it well up to this point...la
     
  6. Alrich

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    The siege way of things:

    Expect to get looted clean and then find the person who killed you, usually they will sell you your stuff back later (or give it, depends on person)


    People tend to take first, then decide later. Unless its boo berry who seems to just carry scissors with him to cut it up, lol.
     
  7. Goron

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    Use that bank!

    One thing I never understand is how people get surprised and discouraged about a PK looting their 'noob stuff'. "They even took my worthless stuff"
    If its worthless, whats the loss? Shouldn't be discouraging- had you lost something valuable, then that is discouraging.

    I don't take time looting garbage personally (just as it is annoying for you to get more, it is annoying for me to get rid of:p)

    Join a guild- that makes reequiping very easy.:thumbsup:

    Don't let it get to you.
    Train hard and well, and come out of rot ready to fight! :fight:
     
  8. Chad Sexington

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    Solikos = Rok'Tar?

    :stir:
     
  9. Well, I'll explain it to you like this.

    Last night, I'm fighting Righty on my archer. Now, my archer can't kill anyone, his bow is too slow, he just dismounts and detects. Anyway, I'm fighting Righty for a while just for entertainment purposes and after a good 10-15 minutes, I die.

    Now, it used to be that people saw that as entertainment and they offered you a rez. Righty starts looting me. So, I self rez and hide.

    Then, Righty calls in a revealer who reveals me and I die and get dry looted. Remember, this was in a one on one that I had no chance to win. It was just for fun. He says after the fight that he called for help because it was "his loot".

    Does that answer your question?
     
  10. Revvo

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    Ever considered a server with insurance? Would probably fit your playstyle more so than Siege.
     
  11. Chad Sexington

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    Maybe try NEW.

    :stir:
     
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  13. Revvo

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    Is it really so bad to be good at two different games rather than spending all ones time being bad at just one? :)
     
  14. Other than you, is there anyone who thinks you are "good" at either?

    Don't get me wrong, I can't hold a candle to your PvM knowledge, crafting knowledge, or overall devotion to pixels, but when you PvP, you are pretty average.
     
  15. Revvo

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    Compared to who though? I consider myself no better than "above average" not amazing not godlike just a little above the norm but there are plenty i consider average or below, yourself included.
     
  16. Turtle

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    Thanks you made my weekend. The only thing that could make it better now is a cold :pint:
     
  17. Turtle

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    I willing to match any amount of gold you can put up to kill the avg pvp Revvo in a fight and I have no idea who you are. *shrug*
     
  18. Righty

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    Scorn I probaby wouldn't have looted you, had you not trammied out on me and self resed !
     
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    loot everyone dry.

    Even if you dont need it take it and trash it... Its the Siege Perilous way.
     
  21. Kael

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    I've always expected to get looted when I die

    Its merely the risk one takes : )
     
  22. TheScoundrelRico

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    No it's not...or at least it wasn't before romper room moved in...la
     
  23. Masumatek

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    It's not the Siege way...it's the ahole way. The "majority" doing it doesn't make it right. It wasn't always like this. Unfortunately though honor has greatly declined on Siege. Reskilling, dry looting, and **** talking have increased. That doesn't mean you have to do the same though just because most others are.

    One thing you can do though to slightly decrease your chance of getting rked and dry looted is not rush back to your corpse every time you die.
     
  24. Freelsy

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    Its gonna happen bro, i was looted a **** ton when i first started but hang in there....if you need armor sets, weps, whatever, look me up in game....the names Astynax. Dont get discouraged! Siege is awesome
     
  25. Lord_Puffy

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    Wow must have been nice, its been like that since my first steps onto Siege :thumbdown::twak: Im a fool!
     
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    Yes that is true, But as you said... Most others do. and I wasnt here when there was honor and the shard was thriving... I like I made it on its downward spiral which has ended with its current state... :fight:
     
  27. Petra Fyde

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    I'm not sure why you don't use the bank, I strongly suggest you re-think that idea. No matter how good you get you're never going to be able to keep anything if you carry all your possessions with you.

    Within 2 days of arriving here I was killed in Umbra, dry looted, my meagre goods put in my dead pack llama and I was res-killed twice more trying to get back to my body from the healer. This interesting initiation to the shard was done 'for the honor of the damned'. I failed to see any honor in tormenting a char who was not only new but also, obviously from the goods they put in the dead beast, a crafter.

    I learned that all of Umbra isn't under the guardzone. I learned to avoid that particular guild if I possibly could. I didn't make the assumption that all pks on the shard followed the same practice. I was cross about it, but I realised there was no point in crying about it, I re-equipped, learned from it and moved on.

    Moonglow merchant: I guess you didn't read my post before the boards went down saying that, on Europa where I have the virtue, I never self rez until after my murderer has finished looting. To do so is an invitation to res-kill. Having the loot suddenly disappear before his eyes is disagreeable to him.
     
  28. Night

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    Joining the [NEW] guild will offer a limited amount of protection.

    Don't carry anything you aren't prepared to lose !

    Join a guild, it's more fun playing with others :thumbsup:

    If you need anything replacing I'd be happy to help, drop me a msg - ICQ #7059529 or if you're UK/Europe timezone I'd be happy hunt with you to get you some new stuff.
     
  29. FrejaSP

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    It should do, instead of self rez, loot and hide, it had been better to show your ghost and wait to he is done with your corpes.

    Trying to loot before a PK is done will make many dry loot you.
     
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    righty u rock :cheerleader:

    kill em all muahaha
     
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    first of all i dont kill non agressors reguardless of color , but if you attack me and i win, expect to be cleaned out .

    dry looting sounds mean and all but it has its place . strategically it stops someone from jumping right back into the fight .

    personally i think "taking out" a newbie or crafter is uncalled for since they arent a threat to begin with , but some here dont see it as such . might as well expect it .

    use your bank and get a house as soon as posable . even if all you can afford is a 7x7 shack ... its there , use it.

    usually tho if you wait till the fight is over and ask nice ill give your stuff back . of course , poeple who have a history of being jerks will likely not get a single piece back from me .

    the shard is rather small and poeple remember things like this . dont build yourself a bad rep and most poeple will treat you with respect .
     
  32. ayahuasca

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    I normally don't self-rez, though I have the ability to. I save that for pvm when healers are a long ways away. I have on occasion used it though, when I'm fighting something, have 5 demons chewing on my tail, am poisoned, and am down to my last hit point, and a gank squad runs up and downs me lol. They didn't earn anything, and I see no reason to give it to them . Then I will self-rez and stealth away. If you want what I carry, then get it the old fashioned way! Death and mayhem! Or steal it, if I'm not paying attention. Killing someone who is already dying doesn't make you a pvp'er- it makes you a looter.

    And, as always, the old hard and true Siege rule that I've so often read- don't carry something if you can't afford to lose it.
     
  33. TheScoundrelRico

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    :) ...la
     
  34. CroakerTnT

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    Sorry, there's no looting code, unless it's previously negotiated.

    In general, many people will follow the rule of "loot as you are looted", but that rule breaks down quickly. Also, some guilds and players have a specific rule to loot everything, no matter how worthless. I can't tell you how many scissors I lost to Vmp in my early days on this shard.

    So, get a house and dump all your junk and never carry anything you aren't prepared to risk losing.
     
  35. TheScoundrelRico

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    Yeah, they are some of the newbs that started that...all in the name or RP *rofl*...la
     
  36. Eh-Tah-Chi

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    For the most part I wont attack new, unless they are obviously getting i nthe way of a fight or trash talking.
    Anyone else though, if its not runic armor, ill cut it up and leave it there to rot.
     
  37. Bluebottle

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    My suggestions are with the majority here - assume the worst then anything else is a bonus. Having said that, for my own experience, most times I was lightly if at all looted and sometimes even ressed. I've only been dry looted perhaps half a dozen times and of those half had placed my body contents in a bag near the corpse in case I was late returning.

    As observed by others, the trend may be changing with some recent arrivals - but there's always hope the old-school Siege attitude will prevail.
     
  38. Bluebottle

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    ... alternatively, take some emergency pouches to periodically store acquired loot and spare essential supplies and stash in an unobtrusive transparency required location marking the coordinates - of course that's assuming your sextant doesn't get snagged too (UOAM helps here)!
     
  39. FrejaSP

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    It mat be the KOC and TO way but it's not the Siege way or was not in the past.

    In old days, looting was used to show respect or disrespect to a player.
    If you respect someone, loot light
    If you disrespect someone, dryloot
    If just someone, loot what you need
    If a newbie, loot light and evt give advices about the shard

    Sure Siege always had it share of players who think griefing was cool so they could laugh with their friends when they successed to make someone feel bad. Most of them are kids but not all of them.

    No wonder we have very few roleplayers left when alot feel proud of being asshats.
     
  40. Petra Fyde

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    I think quite a lot of people would like to see a return to these values.
     
  41. Speedy Orkit

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    Hence why I miss the Orcs.
     
  42. Shakaja

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    actually, without the going away of armor, crafters business would be pretty much dead. so both sides have their pros and cons.

    about the roleplayer remark i somewhat disagree. the problem is the game mechanics that dont really allow you to roleplay with anyone that isnt looking for roleplaying himself. but not looking at that, i couldnt think of a better situation than alot of asshats to form some good guilds that fight all that evil.
     
  43. Molly

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    Since I just came back, any many still dont remember who I am, no matter what guild i'll be in, ill do as this with one exception... in big fights, dont except you'll be allowed to get your corpse back, since I hate to fight with people who just gotten them selves a res and ready to fight again
     
  44. Yella

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    I've been dry-looted 3 times (by 3 seperate people), and i've only been PK'd 4 times in total since I joined Siege 4 weeks ago. The NEW tag means nothing to alot of people.
    To be fair there are some great people on Siege, but it seems to have more than its fair share of arrogant, thoughtless ****ers as well.

    Like the OP, I am not moaning about being looted / campaigning for insurance or any of the like, so please keep your 'clever' remarks to yourselves (nor am I referring to the quoted post above). You know who you are.
     
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    Wrong... lumberjacking and mining FTW...forever and always...
     
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    3 looting rules of siege

    1. If it is a gank or you dont like the person, LOOT EVERYTHING
    2. If it is a solo field fighting or you do like the person, LOOT EVERYTHING GOOD
    3. If it is a duel, LOOT NOTHING

    There ya go.
     
  47. Solikos

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    Worthless stuff = Role playing items. I mean who honestly needs a 10 pound severed human head (other than an Orc)?

    That's the plan... :)

    Yub yub.

    I'm here because of no insurance; I hate the fact that most of UO has become an arty/item farm. I just wanted to get a clear picture of any unwritten 'codes.' It doesn't bother me much really, and much less now that I'll be expecting dry looters.

    Already part of [Orcs] where I'll be to stay. :)
     
  48. TheScoundrelRico

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    LOL, did you bring those from your production shard?...la
     
  49. Chardonnay

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    Smart man...need my help dont hesitate to icq me...
     
  50. Lord_Puffy

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    I guess maybe the reason I dry looted so many people is because Iw as always treated the way I should have been for my actions, hence having tons of enemies and being "disrespected" by all... so yea I did dry loot quite a few and I can see your point.