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Luck and Legacy Dungeons, what to do ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. popps

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    Well, I got through some reasing of Stratics' posts regarding the use of Luck suits in the Legacy dungeons (Shame, Wrong, etc.) as I thought that the more Luck the better, but the more I read, the more I read players saying that actually having too much luck works "against" having good items as drops because while the mods "may" be good, they come with all sorts of negative modifiers like brittle, cursed, unrepairable etc.

    Since I would hate to build a whole suit around a very good piece or two which will only last a short time (meaning that when they break I would have to completely redo the whole suit all over...), I guess I am not interested in very good but short lived pieces...

    That said, I am no longer sure what should be the Luck then to wear when hunting in these dungeons for good pieces but which I can keep over time and around which I can build a suit.

    On this, Stratics' posts from players are confusing because I "seem" to gather the idea that a Luck from 1,000 --> 2,000 should be the target to achieve, but 2,000 is twice as much as 1,000 so how can they be good the same to get good pieces but longer lasting ?

    Also, another thing I am trying to find is a ring and a bracelet with ONLY +5 SSI on them, nothing else. I want to be free to add after the mods I want.

    Now, what would be the luck and the monsters to hunt in the legacy dungeons in order to have a decent chance to get such a ring and bracelet ?

    Thanks a lot.
     
  2. Winter

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    Luck does work and does increase the odds of finding a really great item. But the better the item, the greater the odds that is has negatives added - that is Cursed, Brittle, Cannot be Repaired and -100 Luck. The tougher the MOB, the higher intensity of the item.

    As far as getting a single modifier like +5 SSI, you are better off without any luck, because the luck will add other modifications. I've gotten some very nice jewelry with only MR +4 and similar. But I have never seen jewelry with only SSI on it - that doesn't mean it doesn't drop, I have just never seen it.
     
  3. popps

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I see, but then, if a players wants to hunt for good items (even if not extremely exceptional) without much negative penalties, what should they do ? Hunt with no luck tougher MOBs ? Hunt with "some luck" (how much would "some luck" be...) normal MOBs, average MOBs, tougher MOBs ? What is the personal experience here of players in these dungeons ?

    Ok, thanks, hunt with no luck but hunt any particular MOB ? Like normal ? Average ? Tougher ?
     
  4. Winter

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    I got my +4 MR jewlery on the Diseased Blood ele's and the Eternal Gazers without any luck.
     
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    Alright, thank you.
     
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    Is it even possible to get a completely clean SSI jewel? I don't think I've ever even seen one posted or for sale before. I've seen SSI + another mod but never just SSI.
     
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    No.
     
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    I recall reading posts on Stratics from players who said they did receive as a drop a clean jewel with only SSI on it from the Legacy Dungeons after they were revamped. I remember it because it was also suggested to hunt with no luck to try get them, I think the vortexes and some other MoB..... I tried to find any of these posts with search but I come up with many discussing SSI and did not have time to look through them to find the right ones.
    But unless my memory has gone to waste, I do remember some players discussing getting them as drops.
     
  9. HippoRedux

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    I wear 2100-3000 and get lots of overcapped 1-2 mod uncursed jewels off the lower beasties like Mud elies.
     
  10. popps

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    Did you ever get a ring or bracelet with only SSI on it ?
     
  11. Smoot

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    it was a patch maybe a year ago now. you cant get any jewels with one mod, they will always be 2 or more now.
    good shame loot is few and far between. luck or no luck on the suit, youll most likely farm a very long time before anything "good" so dont blame wrong luck on the loot. alot of luck is good for low to medium stuff. you have to find a sweet spot, analyze the loot table and see if the majority of the loot could possibly be bumped up without going brittle all the time. and of course more luck means more mods, to get the absolute top items means your going to get tons and tons of cursed in hopes of that 1 amazing item. which will probably have 19 useless mods on it and be worth 3mil lol. anyway, lucks a choice but not much of a science.
     
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    Well, then something must be wrong because I just received yesterday a bracelet with only a skill modifier on it. That is just 1 modifier..........


    Well, that sounds quite depressing, a whole lot of work and time to invest not only to hunt and get the drop, but also to spend on imbuing/reforging/refinement complicated calculations item after item only to end up most of the time empty ended or with something that "could" be a nice item if not for a ton of other unwanted modifiers on it....

    I wonder if it is worth the effort in the end........
     
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    Oh its worth it, trust me. It sure is no easy way but after all when you finished the suit you were dreaming of and wipe away those poor peerless / champions or whatever you will be very very proud and satisfied.
     
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    I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much. I am sure it DOES help... but since it takes a million years to find good clean items RL luck seems to be the most important factor.

    Personally, while my experience is limited, I got more clean legendary artis from lizardmen/trolls in wrong than I did from unbound EV's, both with around 600 luck, and all the ones I got from either kinda sucked. So I feel its just a matter of plugging away.
     
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    No, but I have got a matching clean bracelt & ring with only MR4 , ring & bracelet with dci20 only and bracelet & ring with 150 Luck only off of Muddies or clay golems. My clean ssi10 jewels always 2+ mods...
     
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    When you got those jewels, did you have no luck at all or did you have any luck ? And if so, how much luck did you have ?

    Thanks.
     
  17. HippoRedux

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    2100 - 3000 Luck, depends if I rubbed Luck statue or not and/or had slayer book or lucly mage weapon equipped when the beastie died. I can't tell if Luck works or not because my mage suit is also a luck suit and always worn. I have an Imbuer to feed, so the arti level loot items I get become relic frags or turn-in points and now and then keepers. Many of the revamped dungeon monsters do not loot corpses, so I keep a dozen mannequins dressed with Legendary suits to wear when the old ones decay or are lost.