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Magical Residue

Discussion in 'UHall' started by chad, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. chad

    chad Sage
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    Approximately how much residue do you need to go from 50-100?
     
  2. Beastmaster

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    200 if you waste gems and wood/metal instead of residue.
     
  3. aarons6

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    do explain.. im going through over 5000 so far already.. and maybe 10000 gems
    im at 80 skill.
     
  4. Pfloyd

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    Lol, i don't think these numbers are right
     
  5. Kiminality

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    I think the explanation is that, if you imbue an item then unravel it, after the one try, you'll get something in the reagion of a 100% return on essence or whatnot.
    You will, however, burn through about 10 times more of the itmes you're imbuing.
    Gem usage would stay about the same, though.
     
  6. guum

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    Right. I went through about 1500 residue from 40-65, and then went through a grand total of 0 residue from 65-85, because I switched over to imbuing then unravelling. I'm having to use residue again now, unfortunately, cause the single-imbue doesn't give much in the way of gains past that. But yeah, you can get to 85 and actually wind up in the black in terms of residue. Higher than that and it'll cost ya.
     
  7. Harlequin

    Harlequin Babbling Loonie
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    I have gone thru around 1000 residue (less those I got back from unravelling) and 1000 gems so far from 50 to 83+.

    I imbue each item only 10 times so I don't get the reduced gain message.

    Recorded 2 macros in UOA to imbue reflect (following petra's advice) on medable and unmedable respectively, then deleted the "target" line. This saves me many clicks and still allows me to select which item to imbue.
     
  8. Aristillus

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    Those numbers are wrong.
    You lose some on fails so no way you get to 100 Imbue on 200 residue, even if you unravel after each success.




    Aristillus
     
  9. Fink

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    I just burned the residue and saved a whole bunch of clicking. It wasn't necessarily faster - had to stop and craft items to unravel for more residue - I just found it less irritating.
     
  10. guum

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    If you keep your odds at the correct percentages, you actually *gain* residue. I said that it took me 0 residue to go from 65-85 -- that's not quite true. I actually gained about 500 residue. For most of that stretch, you're imbuing properties that take 1 residue per attempt. Unravelling gives 1-3 residue. So...

    But, as I said, this doesn't last forever. Enjoy it while you can still get gains and not have to spend residue.
     
  11. phantus

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    *nods*

    I did the same. Actually I had another character on a computer next to me making the oak bok's and passing them off when needed by my imbuer.
     
  12. guum

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    Yeah, the imbue-then-unravel-one method is definitely slower. It just saves on imbuing resources. If I had unlimited resources, I definitely would not bother.
     
  13. Gheed

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    I had 100 DC runics when the exp hit. I make 100 DC daggers in the unravel bag (uses two dc runics) and I get 175ish residue. So far I have used 50 DC runics for @5k residue and 600kish in gems to get from 40-92 imbuing.
     
  14. Theo_GL

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    I don't understand. Making 'oak bok's'? Do you mean Oak colored Bokuto's? You can't imbue colored wood......

    Please explain?
     
  15. RichDC

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    I was "smart", about a year ago i accidently bought a consinemment of aroun 500 DC/shadow iron runic hammers...so i havent even counted how much residue ive needed.

    However, to whomever posted that you need to use essence...WRONG, OH SO WRONG!!

    Im at around 93 and havent used a single essence, im at present working on 28hit dispel and 12% hit fire area. It costs 4 residue (less than 30dispel and 8fire area).

    When i hit the 100's ill be using around 28Dispel, 20fire and 2cold area/something else that gives me around 50% success rate.

    Been imbuing for about 2days, so im probs gonna be wrong on the optimum success rate.
     
  16. RichDC

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    You cant imbue then, but, apparantly...GM arms lore and 40 luck is enough to get 3 residue.

    You can unravel near enough ANYTHING, no matter the colour, ore, arty...if it is magical armour/weapons you can unravel them
     
  17. Aristillus

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    Well I wish I was smart enough to figure that out earlier :eek:

    Could have had a lot more residue to train with right now.



    Aristillus
     
  18. Beastmaster

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    apology accepted
     
  19. Orkster

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    You actually don't need runic hammers. If you have a lot of spare iron just make exceptional small platemail jingasa (under helmets) using plain ole smith tools and unravel for residue. It is defaulted with Mage Armour. 20 ingots for 1-3 residue. I guess anything that has mage armour would work but never looked to see if anything used less ingots. Ignore me if i am stating the obvious.
     
  20. Ender

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    My method, that I know isn't the most efficient, but it's just what I do, I go kill **** to get junk items to unravel for magical residue and enchanted essences, make a bag full of exceptional daggers, and just imbue all those 10 times, unravel, imbue 10 times, unravel, etc.


    You can do better than hunting for junk if you have low-end runics, but I don't, since I was too lazy to stockpile them even after I knew about imbuing. But eh, hunting works ok enough for me.




    It's not TOO slow, but I have such low patience that I'll be lucky to get to GM by next year.