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Making the perfect woodland sampire suit...questions

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by Freelsy, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. Freelsy

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    I've seen some suits on Atlantic with around 8 mods with decent resists. My questions are. How expensive are these suits? And, are there any imbuers willing to make me a badass suit on atlantic?


    The suit pieces had like...8stam, 8 mana, 8lmc, 5 hpi, 5 hci, 2MR and resists in the 11-18 category..
     
  2. ZidjiN

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    It most often is very expensive. What you do is imbue the item to 500% Eight and enhance it afterwards to get the additional resist and the extra mod from the wood Hci/Hpr.
    I only created one part like this for my 18 HPR mage suit so i havnt done a lot of parts or anything. The problem is that you have a great chanse of destroying the item when enhancing and that makes the PoF you used before imbuing go to waste along with all the imbuing mats.
    I would say that you break about 2 out of 3, heres the creapy part. Even if you succeed in enhancing the item you dont know what mod the wood will spawn, ie maybe you want 5HCI but the armor gets a roll for HPR.

    It can be increadibly expensive. The question is how much do the RNG hate/Love you? :popcorn:
     
  3. frostbolt

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    enhancing is not required on 4 piece woodland suit for max resists on a sampire you just need to break out a spread sheet to plan the stat distributions correctly and its smooth sailing from there

    first you farm a ton of heartwood

    then you make heartwood woodland pieces out of regular saws or w/e

    take the exceptional ones with DI or HCI

    then imbue with Stamina increase, HP increase, MI or LMC, and one resist


    so basically of 5 properties one is taken up by heartwood mod which you automatically get on an exceptionally crafted heartwood armor piece

    then you imbue the other 4 properties upon the armor

    in fact it would be even easier to make the suit if you dont mind having only 40 DCI but i run with 45 so i only use 4 piece woodland instead of 5

    i consider my suit nearly perfect cept that i ran out of relic fragments so i was forced to do Mana increase instead of lmc/ i needed +skill on my jewels cause my acc isnt old enough..
     
  4. Lorax_Pacific

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    If you don't need manaregen there is no reason to use normal leather. You should at least use studded for the extra point, plus the woodland gets 3 extra resist points so if your an elf you benefit.

    It is much easier to make an all 70's suit with woodland and I even put one together that used arties and only three woodland pieces, however, I had to match with one piece frostwood and the other two heartwood plus had to imbue prior to enhancing. Only two pieces needed two resists imbued (+20 and +22) each so it was a nice combination.

    -Lorax
     
  5. [JD]

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    Is there good enhanceable wood armor for Hummies?
     
  6. No. Wood armor is for elves only. (Darn stingy keeblers!)
     
  7. Stupid Miner

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    Or factioneers.
     
  8. Thunderz

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    I made 4 pieces like these arms/tunic/gloves and gorget, some with a resist instead of a mod. I could of put the MR at 2 and the LMC at 8 but i ran out of mats on the second round.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    It can be damn expensive if you dont have to stuff, heres what i used to get the 4 items out of 40-50 i made of each [about a 1 in 40 chance of getting the 5%HCI and it not breaking]

    350 POF
    10000 Bark
    2000 funig
    200 Seeds of renewal
    10000 Wood
    1000 Heartwood
    2000 Boura pelts
    LOTS of residue/enchanted essence and gems

    So rough total in current market value for all the mats is 160'000'000
    Thats going by me geeting 4 out of 160 that i enhanced and out of about 2500 i made to get the right spread of resists before imbuing then enhancing.

    Thunderz
     
  9. Freelsy

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    160 million is a tad bit more than i'm willing to pay for an imbued suit!!!!

    :gee:
     
  10. frostbolt

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    whats the point of having mana regen on a nonmedable piece of armor?.
     
  11. It still works whether it's medable or not.
     
  12. Teardrop

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    I applaud your effort Thunderz. That's an ultimate piece of armor... if you can just explain the reason behind stamina regen. :)
     
  13. Thunderz

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    There was acrtually no logical reason :D

    I could put 6 mods on it.. so i did :) some i put SR some i put HPR :) As there isnt much else left to choose for the last mod :)

    Thunderz
     
  14. Teardrop

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    That's the same dilemma I faced when making my woodland suits. Then I figured you can still make a damn good suit if you just imbue 4 mods on a pre-selected heartwood pieces with just the right resists.
     
  15. Thunderz

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    Yeah, alot cheeper aswell :)

    The arms were experemental to see how it went getting 6 mods

    Thunderz
     
  16. thesplatter

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    how does a perfect suit looks at the moment without enhanc?
     
  17. Lynk

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    I'm building my new sampire woodland suit now. On the suit I made for my LJ, I made the stuff out of heartwood then imbued.

    This time, since there is the forged artifact tool, I'm imbuing then enhancing.

    I crafted last night for about 2 hours making just tunics before I got the right base resists.

    This suit is going to be amazing, but I can see it is also going to be incredibly time consuming and expensive.

    I'll be sure to post pics once its done, along with the weapon arsenal.
     
  18. I want to know how you guys have the money to keep making these elite suits??? I've seen the other thread when some of you posted your suits and their amazing stats with a amazing price but seems to be worth it I'm jealous lol
     
  19. anvira

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    Wow...Thanks for all the great tips (I'm going to actually be able to afford to make one of these by the make with Heartwood first/then imbue method)

    Appreciate the tips!!!
     
  20. Lynk

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    *sigh*

    I went through 10 forged arti charges, ended up with 2 pieces I"m going to use. And 2 that have DI when I needed 5 HCI. And about 6 other pieces that didn't get HCI or DI.

    Anyways, I have 2 really nice DI pieces that I can't use..

    [​IMG]

    These are for sale on Great Lakes. I am asking 12 mil per piece.
     
  21. Ender

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    Yeah I've used about 10 charges and got 2 usable pieces (1 DI 1 HCI) and 8 useless ones. I need 2 more HCI pieces :/
     
  22. Lynk

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    The pieces really aren't that expensive to make. My suit is designed so none of the pieces need 8 LMC, just 7. Luminsecant fungi really aren't that expensive either.

    It's just a pain.. grinding out the base pieces, making sure I can make the rest of the suit.. imbue.. enhance.. Probly takes me like an hour per piece to make.

    I will probably spend all day tomorrow doing it and will still likely not be finished.
     
  23. Lynk

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    Also - wtf, why is HCI so hard to get. I get DI constantly but haven't gotten 1 HCI out of 1.5 of the forged metal tools.
     
  24. Thunderz

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    RNG bro, thats why it would of cost me 250million to make mine when SA came out. :)

    Thunderz
     
  25. RawHeadRex

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    stam regen is important because you lose it as you take damage and you want to keep your ssi and healing fast all the time.
     
  26. Ender

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    God no, don't waste mods on SR. Use Hit Stam Leech, Total Refresh, Divine Fury, or a combination of the three.
     
  27. Lynk

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    Well, only one piece left to make, the gloves. I hit a lucky streak last night and my tunic got HCI after about 6 charges, then the very next piece I made was a gorget and it enhanced to HCI.

    One piece left to make then I can move on to farming ingreds for the jewels.
     
  28. Lynk

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    After about 10 hours of in game playing time just crafting, imbuing, and enhancing, I finally got down to my 25th forged artifact charge. I make my woodland gauntlets, imbue, enhance, success! Last piece with HCI finished.

    Problem: Forgot to POF it and only has 64 durability.

    I'm going to use one of the other 4 pairs that enhanced to a crappy mod that has 255 durability without that 5 hci for low level spawn and only equip the nice gauntlets when I am doing a high level boss.

    Still, it figures that the one time when I don't POF I get the HCI... RNG my ass.
     
  29. AND3R

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    :wall: Been there done that! Thanks for a good chuckle friend!
     
  30. puni666

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    What's wrong with using the Glad's collar and the Valkyries Breast plate thing? about the same mods all together and slightly less resists.
     
  31. Ender

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    Because LMC and SI and MI.
     
  32. puni666

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    I suppose that does add up to more.
    Glad/Valkyrie
    139 Resists
    10% HCI
    15 HPI
    5 Stam
    5/5 Str/Dex

    Woodland 5% HCI pieces
    127 Resists
    10% HCI
    8 HPI
    16 Stam
    16 Mana
    14% LMC


    Wins by 10 Stat Inc and 4 LMC but -12 Total Resists. Oh well :p. I'll still use the Valk!
     
  33. Goldberg-Chessy

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    What am i missing?

    Why is nobody using base woodland pieces that are 'mage armor" for much faster mana regen?

    Does it take away from the possibility of getting the hci or di from heartwood?

    Cause if it doesnt and it just means one less mod i think it would be way worth it no?

    Lastly, can someone clearly explain the exact steps to crafting each woodland piece to achieve hci or di along with the other mods like stam/hpi?

    Do i just use an npc bought saw and use regular wood, then powder, imbue up 500%, enhance and hope for the di or hci? If so, i assume the mage armor has to come randomly from the piece as its made by the npc saw?

    Ty in advance :)
     
  34. Lynk

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    Mage armor doesn't come as a property from making woodland armor, it is one of the random properties applied from Heartwood.

    You can imbue mage armor property before you enhance with heartwood.

    I don't really see a reason to.. you're getting mana back from leeches not regen.

    And yes, you make woodland armor out of regular wood from a regular saw. POF. Imbue, cross your fingers and enhance.
     
  35. Goldberg-Chessy

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    I also just went through 10 forged arti charges and I only got one useable piece(10 DI)

    The other 9 were either luck, lower req, mage armor or no enhanced mod at all :(

    Hoping next one has better results lol.
     
  36. Kim Li of LS

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    your 'no mod' piece has either lower weight or increased durability I'd bet.
     
  37. Goldberg-Chessy

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    Just did 9 more woodland gorgets WITHOUT the forged metal enhance tool:

    7 broke on enhance
    1 enhanced with no useable mod
    1 enhanced with 5 hci.

    IMO factoring in ingredient pricing/pof/materials/time & labor, I think it is best to buy the forged metal tool(approx 15-20 mills on Atl)for guaranteed enhance success.

    Obviously I didnt do enough to know exact enhance success % but 7/9 is a pretty bad indicator IMO.

    If anyone else has input(success %, ideas, etc..)I would love to hear it.

    Ty
     
  38. Lynk

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    If I'm not using forged metal tool, then I'm enhancing with heartwood prior to imbuing.

    The only difference by doing that really is you lose out on some mana increase and you need to use 1 or 2 more mod slots on resists since you aren't enhancing after the imbue.
     
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    I hear you but I am trying to craft max pieces as pertains to the OP :)
     
  40. Goldberg-Chessy

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    Just broke 10/12 on enhance making my running success total 4/21
    Only 1 of the 4 that succeeded had a useable mod.

    Hopefully someone has a use for this info :)
     
  41. Lorax_Pacific

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    Goldberg, the problem with comparing one persons enhance success to another is that the success chance depends on the number of resists and value of the resists before enhance as well as some other mods sometimes. There is a tool for estimating a success chance, but carpentry is dreadfully low success. I know it isn't set up for carpentry estimates, but you can get a feel for the success chance by using it to realize why you're getting less than 20%.

    UO Stratics - Item Enhancing: Armor

    -Lorax
     
  42. Ivor_MacGregor

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    I have found going the imbuing route to be the least expensive and frustrating. Just gm craft the armor till you get the pieces you want with damage increase or hit change increase. Imbue the properties you want from there.

    For a sampire, I have found the 8 mana increase to be pointless. Sure having more than 30 mana is nice, but it really isn't worth the effort it takes using runics.

    Using my own crafters and resources, I did not spend much at all. Just 10 million gold on some of the artifacts I use. However, if you need to farm gold. I have found Misamias (however it is spelled) to be the best for sampires. You load up on 50k fast and walk away with an arty here and there.
     
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    @Lynk:

    I assume your AI woodland suit is finished....would very much like to see the results of your work.....would you mind to post it?

    Tx in advance...
     
  44. Picus at the office

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    You can see his suit in the post here called "my newest sampire". He posted picks also. I posted stats on my latest suit which fits the tinkers legs into a AI sampire suit.
     
  45. zammazingo

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    Do you first create item then imbue it then enhance it? Or do you find an item imbue it then enhance it?

    I created a barbed armor piece for my self. Now I cant enhance it. It says the item is already enhanced.
    Thanks.
     
  46. wanderer1origin

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    they are making with wood and either enhancing with heartwood, pre imbuing or after depending on bank balance and or risk/gambler in them.

    per cent chance it works gives 5 hci isnt high and percent after imbued trying to enhance is lower lot more broken pieces!
     
  47. zammazingo

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    I am confused. So to get the best properties.

    1- I create an exceptional item with normal leather.
    2- I imbue it to the max properties that I like.
    3- Then I enhance it with barbed or spined or something like that.

    Do i get it right? Is this the way to follow to get the best properties on an item?
    Thanks.
     
  48. NuSair

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    Yes.

    But, unless you need the leather for meditation, you are better off using metal or wood (mostly).