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Mana and Neira

Discussion in 'UO Spellcaster' started by Obsidian, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. Obsidian

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    I recently did an Unholy Terror spawn with some friends. I was using my necro-mage. The entire spawn went well carrying an undead slayer spellbook while in wraith form. But I got into serious mana problems with Neira herself. I tried flamestrikes, explosions, energy bolts, and fireballs. It seems that no matter what I tried, even with the undead slayer and corpse skin for the fire spells, I could not leech back enough mana. I tried going into lich form myself and the regen rate was not sufficient.

    Besides the obvious of 40 LMC and maximizing damage, are there any other tricks to keep a necro-mage's mana up while fighting Neira?

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  2. -=KLiM=-

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    What damage did you do to her with FS/Expo?
    For me, the best option is to Fireball champion, with corpse skin / slayer spellbook i usualy do 40-50 per fireball, leeching enough mana to keep spamming it (i also do not have meditation, though have 7 MR and 40LMC + shadow whisp out)
     
  3. Obsidian

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    I was doing about 19-25 damage with the fireballs with her corpse skinned. The explosions were about 30 damage. I can't remember the flame strikes, but I am guessing around 45 dmg per FS.

    Do these seem like abnormally low damage outputs for a corpse skinned Neira while using a basic undead slayer spellbook?

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  4. Gelf

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    not sure if this ties in but was doing bone daemon, for gold skull, on my necro mage. tried using my demon slayer spellbook for double damage but was only doing normal. went to ice fiends and it was doing double damage to them, only against bone daemon it didnt work. checked stratics hunters guide demon was the correct slayer. anyone else having the same prob?
     
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    Usually once Neira is up I will swap to wraith form, get most of your mana back from damage spells cast on her, will also have a wisp up as well.
     
  6. Obsidian

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    I had the same setup... wraith form with dark wisp up. I just wasn't causing enough damage to leech sufficient mana.

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  7. -=KLiM=-

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    I think you need more SDI. While 40-50 DMG per fireball is more than enough, i got to this having inscription and really gimped suit with 75 SDI.
    If you already have LMC maxed your, the only thing you need now is more SDI.
     
  8. gramarye

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    Just a thought but... you are dread. Right?
     
  9. Obsidian

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    No. I've never messed with Karma locks. My character is actually "distinguished" at the moment due to killing stuff. If I lock his karma, does that mean his karma never raises and only goes down? That will help the Dark Wisp. Any other benefit?

    I'm going to try to re-arrange my suit. I do not have 40 LMC at the moment beacause it was either all 70s with 100 LRC or lesser armor with 40 LMC and 100 LRC. I'm on a small US shard and the availability of high resist LRC armor is hit-or-miss. I will keep working on that and then trying to add more SDI. I'm also only at 107.6 Eval Int on this character. That will eventually go up to 115 and eventually (once I obtain the scroll) 120.

    Any other thoughts? I appreciate your help.

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    I think that's a good idea. Wraith form has always been a little weird for me. I can spawn after spawn and be fore re: mana, then suddenly I'll find myself running out of mana.

    40 lmc is definitely a must. I'd be nice if you could also add 10 to 12 mr. Dread Lord will help a little with your wisp summon. Locking your karma simply keeps your karma from raising. Karma can still go down and fame can still go up. Unlocking your karma will allow karma to raise again.
     
  11. -=KLiM=-

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    Also, you do not need an all 70 suit, actualy, you can cast magic reflection and go with extremely low phys resist and 50-60sh in elemental resists, since u'll rarely meele anything
     
  12. Smokin

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    I have had a few times recently where while in wraith form that I do not leech any mana, its seems to be a bug once and awhile.
     
  13. Green Meanie

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    its also worth noting that you can only leach manna with wraith form if the mob has manna left to leach. So if you were running with a couple other necro mages and they are all in wraith form there may only be 1 or 2 manna per cast to be leached.
     
  14. gramarye

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    My advice for what it's worth - lock your Karma at a shrine. Work it down to dread (use the necro book if you have one). At dread the wisp gives really good mana gain, should really help. And yes, once locked you can kill any mobs without raising your karma.
     
  15. the above statements are true.

    first off, you get 0 mana from your wisp with positive karma.

    next you only leach about 25% of the damage to mana, so aoeing mobs will refill your mana, but you need to be doing 4-1 damage to mana ratio on bosses to get full mana return.

    also, if the boss has no mana, youll leach no mana
     
  16. GFY

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    Obsidian, Why don't you ask me these things in game? I could save you soo much time.

    Any way, the champ of this spawn ISN'T UNDEAD! She's a human necromancer. When you get the the champ you need to switch to your best spell damage increase spell book. Scrappers Compendium perhaps?

    Lastly most definitely get the lowest karma you can as a necromancer. I raise mine to do sacrifice for self rezzes and when my karma is high my damage output and the effectiveness of my curses really suffers. I've seen my damage output vs Barracoon drop as much as 15% when my karma is high vs when it's low. Also you need to lock your karma before the spawn because you gain karma very quickly as you wither through the spawn. Also when your in a party, your friend's kills actually raise your karma as well your own!
     
  17. Kelly Daze

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    The best things necros can do on a champ is keep it corpse skins and then cast evil omen the fireball and keep the rotation going until the champ is dead.
     
  18. -=KLiM=-

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    why bother with evil omen?
     
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    Curses the target so that the next harmful event that affects them is magnified. Damage to the target's hit points is increased 25%, the poison level of the attack will be 1 higher and the Resist Magic skill of the target will be fixed on 50. The effect lasts for one harmful event only.
     
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    Yes, which doesn't answer the question, why bother with evil omen?

    It's unlikely that the next effect following the evil omen would be one that would benefit much from evil omen. More likely you'd just boost some pet's magic arrow by a single point of damage.
     
  21. -=KLiM=-

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    exactly, posting the description of the spell doesn't justify it's use when you could have fired 2xFireballs instead of Evil omen + fireball.
     
  22. Kelly Daze

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    Because you do more damage and evil omen cast caster then fireball. But you do what you want to do. I am just offering some advice. I know when our guild does a spawn in fel, 1 necro does nothing but cast evil omen. The more damage you do the faster the champ is dead. But if you don't want to take me advice then don't. By all means don't try to help out the people that are working the spawn with you.
     
  23. -=KLiM=-

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    In order for evil omen + fireball combo to do more damage than fireball+fireball combo, evil omen has to have casting time 4 times shorter than fireball, i'm pretty sure it doesn't.