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Massive barbed runic kit seller on all servers

Discussion in 'UHall' started by concernedplayer, Aug 3, 2008.

  1. Same setup on many servers, below are the ones I found.

    Every one get instantly restocked if you buy them.

    Every one named the same shop and vendor name.

    Every one stocking bkits overlapped in upper left hand corner.

    Every one has only 5 at a time (obviously they know they'll get banned if they continue to sell 100 at a time)

    Every one named BKIT 2.0

    Every one selling them 2 mil each.

    It couldn't be any more obvious they are the same person. Please check this account out.

    Atlantic
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    Pacific
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    Origin
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    Napa Valley
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    Legends
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    Drachenfels
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    Chesapeake
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    Thats all I've found so far.

    BTW, yes I know its possible for a player to get 5 bkits just playing the game legitimately. It might even be possible to get 5 bkits just playing the game legitimately on 7 servers (probably more), thats only 35 kits. I'm just saying its worth a look, ESPECIALLY when they're selling the bkits cheaper than they've ever been sold on most of those shards in recent history, and ESPECIALLY because they have the same old duper-pricing of Atlantic. They're trying to diversify themselves now to all shards with 2 mil bkits just because they know they can't sell 1000 a week off atlantic anymore, please check em out.
     
  2. Mulch

    Mulch Guest

    Shouldn't you be emailing that to ea?

    Is one of the funny and sad things to see that forums way outdo Mythic's concept of reports.

    Will be really interesting to see how they manage it in Warhammer.
     
  3. Its my personal opinion that if you send something to EA directly, they don't do anything about it anytime soon. I have personally mailed Jeremy about various massive ... incredibly massive ... exploitation in the past, with absolutely zero results for many many months. I then bring the issues to the public and it gets fixed ALOT faster.

    Right now her email box is full of people saying "I didn't do it give me my stuff back!". I believe the devs are sampling stratics right now seeing the public's reaction to the bannings. This is by far a better forum for getting things done than emailing EA.

    Probably shooting myself in the foot dissing their poor direct response while asking for their help at the same time, but it is true and if anyone wants to debate the subject I have pleanty of stories about how they ignore massive exploitation until you call them out on it to the public.

    They ban this guy and bkits go back up to 4ish million each I'll take it all back and call myself a liar and bow to Jeremy as savior of sosaria.
     
  4. That guy has been plaguing Legends for a while. I'd be more than happy to see him go, along w/ the house owner who is an account hacker.
     
  5. packrat

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    The guy just removed the ones on Napa. I was checking out the vendor and he came running up and took everyone off...
     
  6. Lady_Mina

    Lady_Mina Guest

    I just checked Europa Luna...no KBIT 2.0 vendor there...
     
  7. UltimatePower

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    There is one on Baja too, north side of luna.
     
  8. rajadeah

    rajadeah Guest

    There is one on catskills too. North west side vendor is empty atm
     
  9. The fear got him. He's pulling out.
     
  10. packrat

    packrat Guest

    Damn... The vendor on Napa took off the barbed kits... I went checked a little while later. He put 5 more on... I went back and there were 2 left. Sat and watched a few minutes.. Those 2 sold in minutes. Guess what? He has 5 more on the vendor.
     
  11. Lady_Mina

    Lady_Mina Guest

    LOL he probably saw the post on the forum.

    So far his plans of world domination...
     
  12. Eslake

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    Dear BKIT 2.0,

    As we reviewed the backups from 3 days ago, we determined that you were in posession of 250 duped barbed sewing kits.

    Your account has been terminated and your credit card blocked. You are not to attempt to return to the game and all of your in-game posessions have been deleted.

    Sincerely, DupePwner



    All these dupers thought they were so smart loading vendors while Drac was off for the week and hiding it all away again when he got back...
    None of them have the intelligence to realize the game is incrimentally backed up in case of server failure? ;)
     
  13. Mechanic

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    It has been stated they cannot review backups without restoring it to a server, and is considered a major undergoing. So I doubt any reviewing will be done anytime soon (soon as in SA is coming to a store near you soon)
     
  14. Oriana

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    I found the one on Baja and my heart sank when I saw where it was. But having known the owner of the house a long time I mesaaged him. He's ended the contrat so thats one less to worry about.

    Ori
     
  15. Cysphruo

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    2mil has been the average price on barbed kits for a long time now.
    and its doubtfull someone duped barbed kits, why when they're 2mil and you could dupe items worth 100mil? im just saying the kits are most likely from a scripter, meaning the kits are "legit" and the person wont get banned here.
     
  16. packrat

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    Good job Ori. I would hate to see some honesty player buy one of these and hear how he got banned because he bought dupped kits.
    Its pretty sad when we have to do the jobs for the GMs.
     
  17. Oriana

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    Scripting, duping... either way, if we can get rid of them, then lets do it best we can.

    Ori
     
  18. NuSair

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    With the speed of todays servers, the cheap price of RAM, and data storage being cheap as well, it doesn't take that long and isn't that hard.
     
  19. Name 1 item you could dupe and sell for 100 million?

    Name 1 item you could dupe and sell for 50 million?

    Name 1 item you could dupe and sell for 30 million?

    What you going to dupe? Server birth rares and event items? Sorry they have been overduped and oversold far less than 30 million and scream "ban me i'm a duper".

    Adding 1 more level of complexity, the item has to be consumable. That means when you stock 250 million gold worth of duped items, you come back to the vendor the next day to stock another 250 million. That bkit vendor i posted on earlier was selling at least 100 bkits a day ... 200 million gold.

    A bod books makes 5 bkits fit into 1 slot. 10 million gold a slot, 1.25 billion a backpack full ... I don't know how they were duping but I don't know anything else they could dupe for 1.25 billion a backpack and expect for it to all be sold within a week on atlantic.

    Bkits change into a new item when you hand it in, the bod becomes a bkit, i'm assuming that "laundering" makes it a whole lot more difficult for dev's to trace.

    2 million hasn't been the "going rate" for a long time, 2 million has been the dupers huge volume sales on atlantic for a long time, whereas other servers in the last month there's been times you couldn't hardly find any for sale and certainly not at 2 million. And now the fear of banning is out there, suddenly all servers have "BKIT 2.0" vendors, each with 5 bkits, each 2 mil each, vendor and shop both named same way? This is someone trying to spread themselves out so they're not caught with 100 bkits on vendor anymore.
     
  20. Goodmorning devs, how ya doing? Hope you're ready for another bantacular day of ridding UO of exploiters. This guy listed in the first post is still there, please check him out with your dupe radar equipment. Thanks! :thumbsup:
     
  21. Coppelia

    Coppelia Guest

    Impossible. If he isn't banned, he's innocent. EA did a good job without any mistake. :mf_prop:
     
  22. Yalp

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    This thread actually seems quite scary to me. It's quite analogous to a witchhunt. I am all for reporting peeps/vendors/activities that appear to be exploting/duping/scripting. But I'm concerned that as players we are taking it upon ourselves to become judge and jury.

    I for one, Do Not Consent to having my fellow players take action on me based on some (granted well made) argument. This is a dangerous road to go down.... human nature being what it is!


    LORD Yalp of Zento, CTDM
     
  23. What I find funny is the ingot scripter vendors that I posted pics about a month or so ago stripped the vendors clean, and now sit empty. I hope the banning isn't over with yet. Would sure be nice to see that house disappear into nothingness too.
     
  24. Sarphus

    Sarphus Guest

    I think this is pretty obviously a scripting operation. I'm pretty sure I even know which one it is.

    Let the ban hammer swing!
     
  25. feath

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    Totally with you on this yalp. it has become a witch hunt - i've seen books littered around atl, saying 'this is a duper vendor - house owner, why do you let him stay? are you a duper too?'
    i'll let the policing be done by EA, i wont be another voice in the mob.
     
  26. the 4th man

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    This guy'll get his, he's just being arrogant now.
     
  27. Lady_Mina

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    He's trying to outsmart the system...

    Question is...will he succeed?
     
  28. HD2300

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    At some point the owner of the home should be held responsible.

    I do not believe any longer that the owner of these homes are totally innocent. One day, I was stealthing through luna (as you do) and low and behold the owner of the house who is hardly ever seen is in the house, and so is the person stocking the BRKs vendor.

    Its time for EA to weild a zero tolerance banstick and to take back the game from the dupers.
     
  29. packrat

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    <------:coco:

    First, we have no powers to be judge. Jury? maybe.

    I can't speak for other severs. I will just speak from what I have seen on the Napa server. This guy sold 10 barbed kits just yesterday. And there are 5 more on them as I am typing. This vendor has not been empty in weeks. So he has put 15 kits on that vendor in one day. Now Yalp of Zento, have you ever owned 15 barbed kits in one day? Would you sale those kits for 2million when just a few months ago they were 5 million? I know I have never had more than one in a few months. There is hardly anyone selling bods on Napa so he can't say he is getting small bods from vendors.
    And apparently this guy is set up on more than one shard. Unless you are friends with this guy, you cant say this is a normal.

    With the things I have seen i wish I were on this jury.
     
  30. Yalp

    Yalp Guest

    The point of my post was missed.

    I do not disagree with the arguments laid out that something is indeed stinking up the joint. My concern is when PLAYERS and not EA take matters into their own hands because they believe something is afoot. It is not for US to lay out books, spam "DUPER" and monitor the habits of these people. It is not for US to actively work to stop their traffic. It is for EA to monitor and investigate and take action.

    I agree with those who have expressed extreme frustration over EA's slow response/no response to the problems of duping and scripting and cheating. IMHO, the failure of EA to act does not mean we, the players or the posters to stratics, should be taking actions into our own hands. This is the danger, this is the road I do not consent to go down.


    LORD Yalp of Zento, CTDM
     
  31. Lady_Mina

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    Yeah but people can't constantly monitor all the vendors on their plot.
    You can't foresee if someone is going to sell shady goods on your plot.

    For example...you're going on a two week trip to (where ever)...and in the meanwhile one of the people who are renting a space at your shop decided to start dealing in shady goods..and sells them on the vendor..
     
  32. Surgeries

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    No player can "Take Action" upon another.

    The people at EA/Mythic have to "Take Action".

    Block Watches are highly successful methods of keeping neighborhoods safe.

    The Block Watchers just don't get to raid the Crack Houses...the Police have to do that...they just report the suspicious activities.

    As soon as EA/Mythic tell us that they are turning the ability to action and/or ban accounts over to UHallers...well...then get worried.

    Very worried.

    Until then, be a good Block Watcher, and help us clean up the game that we love!

    My only worry is that too many people will report too much stuff for the Game Police to investigate, and that a lot of it won't be stuff that needs investigating.

    This, on the other hand, definitely needs to get some attention!

    EDIT:

    I do NOT agree with spreading books etc., as no one other than EA/Mythic can actually know, with 100% certainty (i.e. See all they need to see to know with 100% certainty) what is going on. I strictly believe that if something looks suspicious, that it gets reported to EA, but the book spreading is out of line, IMO.
     
  33. Azazel of LA

    Azazel of LA Guest

    We got one on Lake Austin too , it has 10 barbed kits on it.
     
  34. Sarphus

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    You can choose to not rent out vendor space to other people.

    If you can't trust people to only sell legitimate stuff, you can't trust people to run vendors at your house. It's that simple.

    I think homeowners need to be held accountable for the vendors at their house. I don't think the homeowners need to be banned. I just think that they need to lose the house. With great power comes great responsibility. If they can't handle the responsibility, the privalege should be removed (the house should go *poof*.


    In short, I think if a duper vendor is found on a house, the house should be deleted. All vendors owned by someone other than the house owner or the duper should remain for a period of time. I don't think other tenants should be punished for the homeowner's bad judgement.
     
  35. The guy must sell 100 bkits a day. He's responsible for nearly 50% of all bkits being sold in Luna on all servers at the same time, but because he's the cheapest and restocks instantly, he very well could be responsible for 80% of all bkits being sold in Luna.

    There's what? 100,000 players of ultima online? And 1 person is responsible for 80% of all sales? I'm just saying look into it ... if even 1 of the claims of "i was banned but I was innocent" are true, what about this guy who reeks of exploitation. He's probably a duper, but if he's not a duper he's at least a MAJOR scripter. In either case, more people would participate in selling bkits if they didn't have to deal with their prices being depressed by 1/2 their value by massive exploiters.
     
  36. timbeOFbaja

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    So all the intelligent people who bought a bunch of duped kits and used them immediately to create tons of uber armor are set.
     
  37. Lady_Mina

    Lady_Mina Guest

    So is that guy still restocking his vendors or did he get banned yet?

    Yeah that guy duping the hell out of barbed kits...and he isn't hiding it tho...
     
  38. Doomsday Dragon

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    Image taken on LS 5 minutes ago.

    [​IMG]

    Looks like the price has gone up a little since last night when I checked.

    Sure this guy could be a duper but you could also be wrong. It is not for me or any of you to decide but I wanted to provide another image.
     
  39. packrat

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    The one on Napa sold 3 this morning.. Went back at noon and it was restocked back to 5. Just now checked and there are 0 left. Since I have been watching that vendor he has sold 18 barbed kits in the past 2 days.

    In the past 5 minutes the vendor is restocked with 5.

    At 8:15 pm cst he sold 2
    8:45 pm cst he restocked 2 more= 20 barbed kits in 2days.
    And for those who think thats all I have to do. Well that pretty much is. My modem is acting up and I lose connection every few minutes. This is about all I can do until it gets replaced.
     
  40. gjohnson5

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    Which is really the problem
    many aspects of the game itself has been devalued and may people have been making a living off of cheating. People literally have been selling items with real world money from dupes or crafted items
     
  41. ElRay

    ElRay Guest


    Ehhh, yah right.....I bet theres not even 100,000 active accounts right now
     
  42. Joyous2K

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    Sure it stinks, but the 20 "real" bod guys on LS are terrible with their service. Let's just have runics drop randomly on monsters as part of the new expansion.

    First of all, if that tailor is the one giving me runics when I hand in a BOD, why can't I just kill that tailor and take the runic? Cut out all that clicking, just one "all kill," loot tailor corpse and take runics.

    Seriously, that cheater is providing a service and is really only annoying the 20 LS bod guys. "Real" bod guys, how many are there? 100 on all shards? 150? They stink. They get up early in the morning and do a BOD run and have fun doing it and it is varied gameplay and takes skill, shows how dedicated they are, awesome for UO, lots of lols (lolols?) but they stink at it. Worst providers of service. Expensive and not in quantity. The epitome of lousy when it comes to identical virtual items. It takes them too long to get the runics. Besides that, there are not enough funlovers out there to do bods.

    Until UO team opens up a vendor in Luna and has a never ending supply of runics, this cheater is important for many people's gameplay and only hurts the - OK let's say - 250 "real" BOD guys.

    What UO team needs to do is ban everyone that buys from this guy. That will solve a lot of problems. Great solution.
     
  43. packrat

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    [​IMG]

    Look how long it takes this guy to restock his vendors.. notice the time in the bottom right corner. This is over 20 kits in 2 days. If you notice, there is 1 item in the pouch on the first picture and 5 items in the second. He never puts more than 5.

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  44. Valorite runics ... yay I'm glad EA deleted them and banned people. But in truth, selling valorite runics didn't conflict with hardly any real players selling ... because its practically impossible to get a valorite runic legitimately.

    There are far more people that would like to participate in barbed runic sales as they are more obtainable. This guy has unlimited barbed runic kits for sale on all servers, he sells them for lower than any real player would care to go through the work to get and sell for, therefore he owns the entire market. Its like EA built this whole aspect of the game just for this guy to enjoy profiting from.

    Please EA check him out, anyone with half a brain knows that 100s of barbed runic kits sold every day by 1 person is an exploit of some sort. Meanwhile he might just end up getting smart, varying his vendor names, varying his prices, making himself look like different players and it'll be much harder to deal with him.
     
  45. Halister Marner

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    I was keeping tabs on this guy before the valorite runic craze, I'm fairly sure this is the infamous barbed runic kit scripter that has been around for ages.

    There is a possibility a dupe is involved with this one too though, the amounts seem to be larger than before.
     
  46. aarons6

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    do you maybe think this is the main problem and the reason we have all of these scripter/dupers??

    if it really is impossible to get these playing legitimately, maybe just maybe they should turn up the chance to get one and let things take its natural course and move these scripter/dupers out.

    or.. lets just ban everyone that fixes things.. i guess..
     
  47. gjohnson5

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    Agreed

    too many work around and not enough real fixes
    If the items were easier to get with real play then he chances of mass exploiting to get the items would diminish.

    But then you need to address the quality of items which are created from crafting as well. Since valorite runic hammers really don't create items any better then an agapite, then this would be another reason to dupe
     
  48. Omnicron

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    QFT....that house sells duped items and illegal crap all the time. Not to mention that house was stolen because he hacked the accounts they were on.
     
  49. packrat

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    I linked all those pictures for Jeremy to check into it. and this morning there were no barbed kits on the vendor and as of 5 minutes ago it was still empty.
    The last time it was restocked. I stood there the whole time invis. And the vendor got restocked without anyone around, unless he was invis.
     
  50. Lord Nabin

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    Hey that's My HOUSE on Napa !!!!!!!

    You know I am pretty easy to get ahold of. Anytime you see a suspected scammer at one of my locations feel free to contact me. We could have ended this days ago if needed. As I have done with others in the past. I just happened across this thread.

    I always investigate these issues.