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Maxing damage on a PVM archer

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by sean_lo, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. sean_lo

    sean_lo Guest

    Hi. =)

    This will probably be an expensive journey, as i have finished most of what i've wanted to do on my pvm mage. (see maxing damage on a pvm mage on the mage forums.)
    So please criticize me (I like em!), let me know where and how to improve my template/equipment, and hopefully at the end of the day i can make an archer solely focused on dealing damage.

    My planned build:
    120 archery
    120 tactics
    120 anatomy
    120 bushido
    100 healing
    70 chivalry
    70 resist (not too sure.. but what the heck)

    Stats: 120 str, 125 dex, 10 int

    Equipment:
    Helm of insight (not using mace and shield because my doom trips consist of 20 people or so.. the DF usually has some sort of lower defense on it.)
    Rune beetle carapace
    Jackal's collar
    Gauntlet's of nobility/stormgrip (I'm using nobility because i have a suit for it)
    Primer talisman
    Essence of battle
    Some crappy bracelet
    Crimson cincture
    quiver of infinity

    Barbed kit equipment: Legs, arms

    Total resists: 67,68,67,63,69
    Total dmg increase: 90% (not counting bow) yes i know there's a cap of 100% from items. Replace bracelet, primer with LMC talisman if you have a higher DI bow.

    Final tallied stats: 136 str (128 hp), 150 dex, 18 int (63 mana)


    Now for spells:
    100% base damage + 100% DI increase + 100% from slayer weapon = 300% cap reached without EOO.
    Or
    100% base damage + 100% DI + 50% EOO = 250% dmg for those non-slayer mobs.

    Right now, my demon slayer weapon is a heavy xbow with 16% DI and 30% SSI and some leeches.

    Thoughts? Comments? Improvements? This is only my first attempt, so i'm sure there's a buncha things i'm missing. I'm not that familiar with archers.
     
  2. I'd suggest dropping Anatomy down to GM and bumping Resist up to 90, especially if this character is going to spend a lot of time in Doom. 70 Resist is going to hurt A LOT in several of the rooms if cursed, not to mention the extended duration of Blood Oath. The difference between GM and 120 Anatomy is so small you'll never notice it.

    One thing to keep in mind is that the damage increase you get from Perfection is also included in the 300% DI cap.
     
  3. sean_lo

    sean_lo Guest

    In my trips to doom with about 16+ people, i can guarantee you that my chance of getting perfection off on every monster is smaller than my chance of getting another ornament. ;p

    Perfection will only be reliable when there's very few people.

    Remember, this is all about maxing damage on a PVM archer in a 16+ player scenario.
    What i need this template to do, is to pump out as much damage as it can possibly do in the least amount of time, then following that, survivability.

    Otherwise i would just play my mage for insane flamestrike damage.
     
  4. Trukx

    Trukx Guest

    Temp is almost exactly what I run, only I have 100 anat and 90 healing and 100 resist.

    Only two things I can think of to tweek or consider.....in that kind of setting as discussed in your follow up post.....this is for doom....in that setting you really want two things: Hit and Speed.

    Max out HCI. I know I know....LS does it....but for whatever reason I have found I hit way more when I have max HCI and LS going. Im sure its just me, but when im running a doom toon, i dont worry about DCI and even resists.....my doom suit is HCI and stats. If there isnt a lot of people, I'll change suits.

    Speed: If the formula on UOGuide is correct, you are swinging your hard hitting heavy every 3.0 Seconds (20-5)*(100/130).......I wont knock the heavy, but along my thoughts of 'a doom suit', I am more than happy to find things that add SSI adn stamina....Helm and ring come to mind......as well as getting stamina to 180 in order to decrease your swing time. If you can find a regular Xbow (w/ demon slayer and 30+SSI) I think you'd pretty be set......i prefer it over the heavy because I loose only 4 base damage for a gain of 0.5 speed right off the bat on swing speed. With 60SSI and 210 stamina you still cant cap a heavy xbow (2.06=2.25), but that reg xbow would be swinging at 1.73=1.75.

    In my case, im swinging my regular xbow at 2.25 vs your 3.0......you'll hit on average probably 20 more dmage per shot than i will, but over the span of 1 minute I'll shoot 27 times and you'll shoot 20; saying we hit all of our shots....I'll make up that 400 damage in 3 hits and then I'll be up 500+ damage.
     
  5. Storm

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    That looks like a great template the only thing that would bother me is maybe more mana and less str of course depends on the leeches you have on the bow
    but then again I use mana like there is no tomorrow of course honor foe and such will help keep that up
     
  6. sean_lo

    sean_lo Guest

    Trukx,

    Yea but it's not exactly easy nowadays to find demon slayers of any kind with maxed out SSI AND leech, AND DI. ;p
     
  7. Trukx

    Trukx Guest

    So i guess my real point would be then to figure out how to drop another 0.5 seconds on your swing speed........want to maximize damage you need to maximize # of attempts.

    The drop in base damage for a reg bow to me isnt worth it compared to a xbow (only .25 swing speed difference but a loss for me of 10+ base damage); same for composite. But like you said, gotta take what you get or can find.
     
  8. eolsunder1

    eolsunder1 Guest

    Drop tactics and anatomy down to 100, the extra 40 points in it aren't even close to being worth it. Put those 40 points into something else. Maybe boost your resist and chivalry up more, or put some points into necro in case you want to go wraith form or vamp form with items.
     
  9. sean_lo

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    Eol,

    This is a post about MAXING damage first, survivability second. This is a specialised build for doom to drop in max damage in mere seconds for a 16+ people scenario.
     
  10. Storm

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    Connor you have to be the luckiest guy in the game I swear I have every slayer you can imagine but the only demon slayer I have is on the reaper I bought on the brighter side though I bought the dryad bow off a vendor today for 20k checked uo search to see what they were going for and on LS they are running close to 2 million even if i sell for 200k im making a killing
     
  11. Guest

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    Sounds like the day I bought a jackles for 1,750,000 when they were selling for 17mil. And Legs of Bane for 800k instead of 8,000,000.

    Even better, it was a luna vendor. One right next to the gate. [​IMG]
     
  12. I forgot to mention it also has a little DI and HCI too... [​IMG]
     
  13. Trukx

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    No real point in enhancing since it already has a great speed and has hci on it already. I'll assume you have 120+ dex so you are already shooting that thing at a capped 1.25s. The DI you can make up for in other equipment, esp since it has some of that as well.

    No real benefit gained except perhaps MORE HCI....which again can be made up for in jewelry and LS if you have bushido.

    Excellent find, only real problem is that repeaters have such a low base damage compared to other bows.
     
  14. "Excellent find, only real problem is that repeaters have such a low base damage compared to other bows. "

    I agree, which is why I'll continue using my Demon slayer heavy crossbow with mana leech for most situations. I actually now have heavy crossbow w/ssi super slayers for almost all of the slayer types. I think the only ones I'm missing now in heavy's are Reptile and Elemental.

    I dunno about enhancing though. I had thought about enhancing with Yew to add to the DI & HCI just to increase it's overall value. I'll most likely end up putting it up for sale after I give it a try on a Balron or 2. My magical short Demon slayer is tough to beat though as it has all 3 leeches on it, but it's worth testing. There are benefits to only having stamina and mana leech.


    Storm-

    Yeah, I know, in some things the Evil Lord RNG just loves me, and in others it seems he's developed a wonderland of evil amusement just with me in mind. [​IMG]
     
  15. sean_lo

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    Connor hax. That and he also had the 50 mil super slayer undead scrappers or something a while back on his first attempt. T_T
     
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    Well that doesnt suprise me at all lol
    Maybe I should start playing my toons on pac again and go begging at conners house his hand me downs are better than most of my "good stuff" so conner if you see a begger at you house its probably me lol
     
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    Connor hax. That and he also had the 50 mil super slayer undead scrappers or something a while back on his first attempt. T_T

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hehe, yeah, that was a GOOD day for the old bank balance. [​IMG]
     
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    Well that doesnt suprise me at all lol
    Maybe I should start playing my toons on pac again and go begging at conners house his hand me downs are better than most of my "good stuff" so conner if you see a begger at you house its probably me lol

    [/ QUOTE ]

    LOL, I'll have to remember that. [​IMG]