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Maybe Cha. Transfers would help shard Pop.

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by RedDaTeef, Feb 21, 2010.

  1. RedDaTeef

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    Ginsu had suggested insurance to get more players here. I suggest the ever popular :lol: Character transfers! It would be nice to have this option actually, imo.
     
  2. Damien Softstep

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    Character transfer opens the door for bugs exploits and headaches...it could be done properly but EA wont do it properly...
     
  3. Timothy_SP

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    What about Advanced Character Tokens instead? It would get you into RoT, a little, making it less tedious for new players.
     
  4. ZidjiN

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    Ive started at siege a couple of times and gave up everysingle time since the ROT system is a pain in the ass.
    ROT might be good in the long run but when it takes 3 months to get the first char ready something is really wrong tbh.

    Just my pov
     
  5. Ginsu's

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    there you go thinking out side of the box, I like that. :thumbup1:
    have a toon ready to rock and roll :gun:

    :grouphug: or give siege something so sweet that other server can't have.

    like make T2A capture the flag. contest
     
  6. Timothy_SP

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    RoT times and skill gain amounts have been changed since I left last. I think what they should really do is make it so you can gain in multiple skills at max for day amounts.

    So from 70-79.9 you could gain 5 points in one or more skills.

    Thoughts?
     
  7. Damien Softstep

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    Work on his slowly then come here...takes you 5 years so be it...takes 3 months dedication...if it took you one year so be it hell be done...
     
  8. Kat

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    I wouldn't be opposed to that and/or maybe advanced character tokens.
     
  9. SoulWeaver

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    I wouldn't really care if they removed RoT all togeahther or allowed advanced character tokens or even Transfers as long as they wouldnt only allow 1 per character and they can't bring anything to the server. Completely stripped naked just stats and skills...


    I believe any of these would at least allow people to try the shard without wanting to hang them selves training.
     
  10. Symma

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    Like Soulweaver said. I wouldn't be against it but it'd have to be just skills. Don't want people bringing over all loot and stuff. People work hard on Siege, so I don't want to see people just transferring their best character and loot.

    Although, bringing over their best items wouldn't be to bad when we loot their corpse dry :D

    But some sort of character advancement might help. Just don't want to see the hard working regulars ruined by a transfer system and the effects that might bring.
     
  11. I like it.:thumbup1:
     
  12. Mook Chessy

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    No, as soon as they open it up the shard is done!

    Please remember that the players are smarter then the devs, been proven many timeS.

    If x shard transfers star,t duping will be here shortly after.

    If you want prod, go to prodo, that is why I came to Siege!
     
  13. Uvtha

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    Transfers to, but not off, naked, and advanced character tokens, are ideas I support.
     
  14. Tjalle

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    This!

    It will only be a matter of time until someone finds a loophole...
     
  15. Damien Softstep

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    Yep...
     
  16. kelmo

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    A Siege advanced character token of some sort, I might be interested in discussing. Transfers and insurance absolutely no!

    Advanced training centers would be cool. Somewhere between the New Haven experience and the Black Rock training. Maybe add extra gains if under the tutelage of a GM or better player character. Just thinking...
     
  17. FrejaSP

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    We have that old warrior training place at west Brit, I would love to see that used again as well as crafting shops.

    Maybe make it so if you are training at this places, you will gain between 1-3 points at each gain.

    Would be nice to see young blacksmith and tailors training in town shops. Also increase the success for crafters when training in town shops instead of their house.

    Very looong ago, we could learn from training together with more skilled chars with same skills, think you got better gain in a group, that could be nice too.
     
  18. Kael

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    How long can we be arrogant?? Siege needs people to survive!!

    I would love to say..no xffers...no advance chars.....but I really wanna say this..I wanna see people here..playing and having some fun


    if it takes whatever to get people here...lets do it :)
     
  19. Bruin

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    You know, I was someone for the longest time who was against character transfers. But we gotta start doing something to help the shard population. A dead siege without character transfers is no fun. What I would be in favor of is a LIMITED TIME character transfer, say from March 1 - March 31, you could pay to transfer your characters to Siege. I would much prefer if they were forced to transfer naked, but I doubt EA would waste the coding time to change that.

    I believe by forcing it a ONE WAY trip only, from prodo shard to Siege, for a limited time only, like a month, we can both help build up the shard population and minimize duping issues.

    I understand someone might come over with a bank full of arties, but at least they could lose them here. We could have unintended consequences like blessed items on prodo that don't belong blessed here - which may be why a transfer is never feasible.
     
  20. Tiberius

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    I also agree with this. Changing skill gain in some fashion is the answer to this problem.

    Another thign that never should have happened on this shard is makign taming a rot based skill; the tamer population here soared as soon as that change went in. I know I have never trained a tamer to gm w/o rot and never will.
     
  21. Petra Fyde

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    I like Kelmo's idea.
    I think 'duping' is an answer - not duping items, duping a character - ie nominate a character on shard A - the char's skills and stats are recorded (or just picked up from uo.com char search) and a duplicate of that character is created on Siege. Safer than char transfer, nothing moves.
     
  22. kelmo

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    That is indeed what I was thinking.
     
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  24. Mook Chessy

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    I think if we all took off hiding and stealth everyone would be suprised just how many people are running around Siege everyday!

    Regarding a system that would allow mass recruitment, be careful what you wish for!

    Please go make a char on prodo and spend some time in WBB, Luna or Yew Gate...

    Look at all the IpwneOYUrnubAserz!

    The only thing that keeps these type of KIDS off of Siege is ROT, thank god I say!

    Imagine if 50 Blahs showed up here, the shard would be unplayable.

    IMHO the best thing we can do is try to avoid Stealth so when a new person does log onto Siege, they actually see people!
     
  25. Mitzlplik_SP

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    I like the idea of char copy instead of transfers. That way peaple still have their beloved char on whatever shard they came from but as a bonus they get to play on this great shard as well. I don`t care if they can bring items worn or whatever with them. Not like they`ll keep said items for very long anyways.

    I also agree that there is more playing than peaple think,ya just can`t see em. I mean I do have a stealth toon I use for shopping.He`s kind of useless for anything else except for maybe herding. Anyways,its suprising how many hidden peaple I see everyday. Little things like doors opening by themselves,house porters in use but no ones there. I think their everywhere,but eliminating stealth just to SEE them isn`t an option. That would just make an already hard shard harder. Making it a PITA just to shop,the one time I don`t want to get ganked,expescially if I just dropped 500k on something that isn`t blessed.

    Only problem with char copies or xfers is the single char slot. Might I suggest a second slot? Maybe with an hour downtime between swapping toons or something(If its even needed at all,I don`t think a second slot would be that big of deal). I mean there is a toon I`d seriously like to have here,but if there was a char copy option..... I`d be screwed and hafta delete a SP char that took alot of time to complete. I DO have pvp ready toons,just not here.....
     
  26. GarthGrey

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    Allow char xfers and I'll move 1 from all 3 accounts, and you can start killing them immediately. I'll play Siege exclusively. I'll die 300 times a day until I run out of gold or learn to PvP, until then I'll continue to trudge along with RoT. 0 soulstones and my poor skill selections..and then probably give up again.;..
     
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    Kind of hard to dupe when you can't bring anything with you. Although being able to bring some gold wouldn't be too bad...
     
  28. Damien Softstep

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    If im not mistaken there was a problem with transfer/advanced tokens a few years back if i remember correctly?

    You have no idea what can off worms these tokens can bring...you talking about bringing duped prodo gold?
     
  29. ZidjiN

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    Thats an awesome idea! Feel free to PM me when its done lol.
    Nah seriusly i would start on siege the same day this would go live.
     
  30. Spree

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    Turn on a black rock training area with a guard protection until you hit 500 skill points or max stats. Current players could use the area and be raided and killed because even if they soulstoned skills to get below the 500 skill points they would not be able to drop their stats to use guard zone.
     
  31. Bruin

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    You know, there are some great ideas in this thread, but the simple fact of the matter is EA isn't going to waste their time programming a special character transfer program just for Siege. It just isn't going to happen. So realistically, they'll either turn on character transfers now as they exist for other shards, or they won't. We can ask them to turn it on, but anything beyond that and the likelyhood of it happening is slim to none.

    Which is why my idea simply was, allow character transfers INTO Siege for 30 days only. They turn it on, they turn it off, we're done. Nothing new to program.

    Which is why I think we should simply focus in on whether or not we want character transfers as they exist today. We could offer some suggestions, but it's probably going to come down to yes or no to character transfers as they are currently programmed.
     
  32. Elfstone

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    I would love to be able to xfer here. I'm sure tons of other people would too.
    Can it be done safely seems to be the concern. I hate the idea of allowing insurance. This is Siege. Where would the thrill be if I didn't have the possibility of losing everything in one death. Adjusting ROT would be great.
    Don't get rid of it but overhaul it in a major way. I also think you should be allowed to xfer in but not out, making it so only serious player would xfer in.
     
  33. Afterglow

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    *plays the lame duck and is against xshard transfer, neither out nor in*