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Discussion in 'UHall' started by Coffin, Mar 18, 2009.
I don't know? Should I just page a GM? I hate paging on people though.
Yet another argument for playing in Fel. ;-D
Nice. I ran into one scripter in fel. He, well, didn't make it I'm afraid. I let him stay indefinitely with his beloved ore.
Didnt see script miners like that in T2A. If there were, people would kill them as soon as they saw them, even if it meant going red. Hey, it was easy loot, plus it helped to cut down on cheating. Get it, cut down. LOL!
A friend came up with a way to get them down. I had a dragon who had been displeased with me for quite some time and was ready to go his own way...
ive paged on thoese same miners aover a month ago
Ya... but how do you get those script miners to go to Felucca?
And if you watch some of the more silent banks, you spot the same scripter coming in all the time, unloading ore, recalling away and repeating.
If you play on Great Lakes go to Nujelm bank and watch...2 chars with barely enough stuff on for lrc just recalling away all day long...and if u go to almost any cave in fel and wait a bit you'll see a bunch of scripters there too, and every week theres more....at least in fel u can do somethin bout it...
Yeah whats up with dat?
I thought I was just going insane so then I quit SP but I did try it again lol.
On topic nice work with the miners. I just put items down to block. Knowing my luck they page a gm for me releasing a dragon then I get banned.
I like the no recall/sacred journey rules on Siege. To max it, I would like to see no gating either, but I doubt that will ever happen. The one thing it does do is it keeps the script miners from being able to merely use the same setups they do on the production shards. Not sure how scripts are written, but I would think it would take a little more work to get one written for gating...and it requires the player needs to use at least 60 points in magery to even be able to use scrolls...la
Ya there is little break from the hunting grind. Hard to find things to do that don't peg out the BS meter. Why if things aren't fixed and some serious in your face policing of the game doesn't happen, SA will be nothing more then some smoke blowing over our dingle berries. We've waited to many years for fixes, and not more content to give theese hacks the advantage. They need to stop trying to gold plate this turd. Peel off the latest layer of foil and still don't taste like chocolate
Besides the fact that tramland luring is not the answer. If you page to much disatisfied with the outsourced canned messages you can have your account threatened of banning.
They need to stop trying to gold plate this turd. Peel off the latest layer of foil and still won't taste like chocolate.
This game is crap........
I had to laugh at the ore drop box for the script miners being right next to a vendor named "Cheap Ingots".
The script itself wouldn't be any harder to write, but it would require a bit more from the character to have to gate everywhere. It'd be too slow to be practical unless you had uber mana regen.... Plus, you'd have to write it yourself because who would even do that??
This is likely why you don't have that problem on SP.
Did you think to try covering up his container? The script probably targets specific cursor coordinates rather than opening the container and dropping. Its remotely possible that you could just stand there and smelt his ore as he drops it on the box with a fire beetle lol
How does this effect "your" gameplay?
And don't say it ruins the economy. The economy in UO is long gone
So we should all script? If EA enforced their terms of service involving 3rd party apps, this would not be an issue.
I'm going to assume that wasn't rhetorical and actually give you an answer here;
I hate botters. I don't care if the dude is attended, but it irks me that I sit here and spend my admittedly worthless time mining to get the ingots to fill a bod while this guy is asleep or working or boozing it up somewhere or something. How does it effect my gameplay? Lemme break it down
Watch out now! Hoo-ha!
What is money? A representation of your efforts in a trade used when bartering so that two people may exchange services without needing eachother's specific services. For instance, I can buy shoes from someone, even if they don't need tech support because someone else has paid me for that service.
More accurately, its time invested in a particular labor, as most people are paid based on productivity or how long they work.
So time is money, and money is time. Money is a representation of my time that I waste doing things I don't want to do.
So when I see this guy over here who's making game money without any time investment, it looks to me about like someone making counterfeit money.
You'll see in that picture, directly beside his drop box, there's an ingot vendor. Do you suppose that those are ingots he mines legitimately in his free time and he gives the botted ones to newbies? No sir! He is botting while off doing something completely unrelated, and then selling his ingots so that he doesn't have to waste his time farming when he wants to play. Not only that, but it makes it so that anyone who wants to make a legitimate living off of mining now has to lower their prices to compete with someone who's time literally has NO value to them because they're not actually spending it making the cash, they're doing something completely unrelated. This hurts normal gamers.
Tell Mr Cobra up there to sit at his keyboard and waste his time while his guys mine, and I don't give a flying pig's fart if he's botting or doing it by hand because now what he's doing has value to him.
I hope that will help explain to you exactly how and why it pisses me off when people macro unattended.
It seems the only thing to be done is one of 2 things,
1) players take responsibility into there own hands and block his runes.
2) EA gives people a "Quota" on mining and people pay a tax for mining after this and an extortionate tax after another "Quota"
The only reason i say these is simply because they wont do anything to actually stop the uses of ITPP's.
Obviosely this is in trammel. If anyone should get called on it should have been you that got banned. Two things I see you are doing or did illegal was:
1) Blocking recall spots with items.. this has been deemed illegal years ago and is a bannable offence.
2) Releaseing a tamed dragon for the purpose of killing people in Trammel.. Again deemed illegal and is a bannable offence.
While I hate script folks... I hate WORSE is a tattle tale that uses twice the illegal things that the person he is gripeing about.
Get a life and call a GM next time.
I challenge you to release a dragon in trammel and see what happens, answer...nothing, pets released no longer agro in tram rulesets unless agrod upon, he may be guilty of luring the 2mongbats over to kill.
You know what i hate, people who deem someone using the only means at there disposal to prevent an illegal action, which game developers take no care in fixing, as a cheat.
We all know how effective that is.
Did you happen to read Bazer's post. "ive paged on thoese same miners aover a month ago"
So dont kid your self about GM's doing anything we all know they wont. Enjoy a good laugh at the expense of a scripter and some one who gave them one for the team
i accidentally *cough* gated a script tamer to luna this morning... i mean, if he's going to walk in a big square 50 times in a row i figured maybe he was bored and wanted to do some shopping or something...
even hollered to let him know i was opening a gate to luna... not my fault if he decided to join me, right?
hehe Nine your to nice... Dragon island or shame blood eles would have been more fun hehehehehe
ya, but watching him try to keep walking his square for the next hour around luna moongate was more satisfying
Honestly I cannot imagine why they have not started flagging accounts that perform the same action over and over for hours on end.
Trust me, no matter how much someone may love to mine, No honest player is mining 23 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Seriously EA, take 5 minutes and write a script that flags any account that performs the same action "X" number of times per day.
I would error on the side of caution myself before becoming a *report a scripter* just cuz sometimes it never pays off.
For one thing it is THEIR JOB not ours...but sometimes they can not be everywhere and if the scripting is right by our own home endlessly the sound of RECALL RECALL till the noise of it annoys ya to no end..so ya try to report em. And they seem to have even a script to be able to tell *when* someone is guestioning them with are you there ? or whatever..in the end they look innocent and YOU get in trouble or at worse they get to continue and you either get to shut off your sound ...entirely or have to live with the annoying SOUND of their recalling over and over again...looking like/appearing as scripters in your own yard nearly, next door or by your own home.
My only solution that year, ended up my MOVING from a nice formerly quiet trammel spot an 18 x 18, in one of those secluded AOS spots were only 2-4 homes barely fit yet full of sand and ore to mine up and the scripters moved in...and I LEFT moved out cuz I got no help...and so THEY WON got the entire area to them selves and I moved away...from sand and ore and my former quiet spot nestled in the AOS hidden valley spot on Chesapeake and that was years ago.
Almost got in trouble myself for reporting them ONCE...so NO LONGER ever will I bother to report nor do their job...yes it hurts their customer base their product...but we are not the police ...we can try but oft to no avail.
So if this is going on near a home you live in...unless they DO get removed ...you may end up moving just cuz they annoy ya so much just being there hoggin up the ore...making the NOISE of the recall...and getting away with doing in endlessly till your quiet spot wherever is ruined...so ya move OUT find some other spot and hope it never happens again where the honest player is stuck with a scripter for...a neighbor. MEH !!!
I ignore em now won't let em ruin my day... nor the lack of policiing upon them, by them in charge at times... cuz then our only alternative is to quit. . and many do.. we ALL, tire of scripters. On Siege or in fel folks can just PK em ..not so easy in the trammel parts like the house I USED to have and moved from cuz of .. scripters moving in next door, unimpeeded unstopped and nearly me not them getting in trouble for once reporting THEM, meh.
When ever this comes up as an issue people get a pissy over adding things like PunkBuster to the game client to help eliminate things like this.
I'm not saying WoW is without it's own cheating, but you very rarely, if at all hear people on the forums complaining about macroing and duping and speed hacking (the most common UO cheats).
See with out some sort of "cheat detection" it's just someone's word vs. yours and the GMs have no way to prove it one way or another.
I just hate how this game turned in to such a witch hunt. It just goes to show there is a lack of meaningful content in the game
That is NOT or was EVER deemed illegal.
LoL I think it is you who needs to get a life. He wasn't tattle taling. He took action. Paging a gm is tattle taling. I applaud the OP. Also number 1 is not illegal. Bad day eh?
cheap ingots where is the problem?
"But, but, we´re a big family and we share the account and we all love mining... We just take turns."
No seriously, something like what U proposed would be nice.
You just answered your own quesion.
It kills the business for the honest players...
Did you seriously just ignore that huge post up there I wrote?
I swear, some folk just need to burn their keyboards and never haunt the internet again. Either read a thread, or don't ****ing respond! (That goes to u.hall in general!)
Ive got to agree, one of the best ideas so far...if player can write a script why cant the dev's?
Oh and maybe a different question than are you there, change it up so its having a good day mining??
Got any good gems recently??
I see you mine alot you must really love it.
You know mix it up so scripts cant auto answer.
Chill Dude! That was a bit unkind.
Seriously, I skipped over your LONG post also. If a poster can't sum up his/her thoughts in a paragraph or two, I won't bother reading it either.