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Mini Champ Spawn Question...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by guum, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. guum

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    A bit noobish of me, but...is there some way to start/restart these spawns manually, like using valor on the skull candle with big champ spawns? I keep going down to Cavern of the discarded to find only rats, scorpions, and dogs, and no renowned or ratmen in sight.
     
  2. I thought it was a constant spawn. Like if you kill enough of whatever is there already, the next "wave" will auotmatically follow until said mini boss pops, then will start all over after its death.
    Could def be mistaken, and clarification would be a nice follow up from someone who knows!
     
  3. Uthar Pendragon

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    You kill the rats to get the next level to spawn and then the ratmen to get the next level. The renowned ratmen were not worth the trouble- over 10k hps and regular ratman loot.
     
  4. Tina Small

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    I don't think there's any way to advance these other than just killing the spawn. In the Cavern of the Discarded, if the spawn isn't moving past the rats, wolves, and scorpions, it most likely means a renowned named ratman has spawned and someone pulled it out of the way and then proceeded to kill all the mid-level spawn. Wander around a bit and you should find one or two of the renowned creatures to kill. Once they're dead, you should be able to get the spawn to advance again by killing the lowest level creatures.
     
  5. guum

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    Thanks folks. Is there any way to know what level the spawn is at, aside from what's spawning? Like a visual indicator a la candles?
     
  6. Tina Small

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    No.
     
  7. guum

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    So if I keep killing rats, the spawn will advance, right? I've killed probably 200 of them so far, as fast as they spawn, and it isn't going anywhere. And those rats don't have crap for loot.
     
  8. Lost-Soul

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    you have to kill the renowned monster in order for it to restart. takes a little bit
     
  9. Phaen Grey

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    Last night after the skeletal dragon (renowned) was downed, the spawn was restarting three minutes later.
     
  10. guum

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    A couple of tamers showed up and started killing rats too. Between the three of us, I think we're at around 500 rats dead now without any ratmen spawning. The renowned is nowhere to be found (I looked all around the area). Is this normal?

    Edit: Very strange. The [renowned] spawned without ever passing through the middle spawn. Just lots of rats, then the renowned.
     
  11. Tina Small

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    Here's something else to check. I saw this on Lake Austin. Someone pulled a small crowd of the plague rats out of their area and off to the north (the spot that might be player housing at some point). I'm not sure why it was done, but that's what I noted.

    Perhaps check and see if someone has pulled the same stunt on your shard and if yes, if the mid-level spawn is popping up over there.

    What you should see from mid-level spawn is stuff with titles like "Supplicant," "Tinkerer," "Scavanger," and maybe a few others.
     
  12. Taylor

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    I think that this might be a bug unique to the rat mini-champ. Atlantic experienced a similar issue yesterday: no matter how many rats and scorpions we killed, the spawn never advanced. Several folks contacted GMs. Of course, the response to everyone was, Please submit a bug report.
     
  13. Farsight

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    The rats still spawn while the reknowned rat-man is out. And if nobody kills it, it may go on walkabout, which means it could be very far away.

    My advice: KILL THE REKNOWNED.

    It isn't worth it to kill the reknowned, but it is worth it to start the spawn over again.
     
  14. Sellingahouse

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    I have a question about this place. Is it like the lich champ spawn, the highlighted deco items become unlocked and you can pick them up? I talking about the ones in the rubble house. thanks for all your help
     
  15. Tina Small

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    Ahem.

    I think I just learned something very important about Vitavi [Renowned] and the Cavern of the Discarded.

    Took my very underused tamer and GD on Yamato to the Cavern. Of course Vitavi was roaming around and came to greet us. After a long drawn-out and tedious battle (25 minutes or so), he finally succumbed. Loot included a piddly amount of regs and necro or magery scrolls, 288 gold, a ring with FCR 1 on it (the only mod), crystal granules (an imbuing ingredient) and some gargish leather arms with Self Repair 1.

    I figured at least the poor dragon got some training, including some Resisting Spells gains because Vitavi uses some Mysticism spells. Better than using a shadow iron ele, even though Vitavi does like to roam once he gets down to about 4,000 hit points. (I think he starts with between 30,000 to 40,000 hit points).

    We proceeded to start killing plague rats. I was just starting to get a bit curious about some of the junk laying around, when I moused over a big gargoyle-style sword that popped up.

    Well...........

    I think THIS was the reward for killing Vitavi. What say you? Does the delivery method seem appropriate, given the area where we were hunting?

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Uvtha

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    Well, im guessing someone just trashed it.
     
  17. guum

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    Me too, although I don't know why. What's Battle Lust?

    Also, is it just me or are these mini champ spawns super-buggy? Now I'm doing the goblin one, and there are 4 goblins trapped in inaccessible spots, and nothing is respawning. I killed two renowneds about 10 minutes ago, and all is quiet now...no goblins (except the trapped 4), no renowneds, nothing.
     
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    The goblin mini-champ spawn even have 2 Renowned bosses. A mage and a alchemist.
     
  19. guum

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    Yeah, got 'em. I wasn't patient enough apparently...about 2 minutes after I posted that, the spawn reset.
     
  20. Uvtha

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    I wish there were a reason to kill renowns. This just seems like something that got overlooked.

    IF they are indeed causing an artifact to spawn on the ground, thats quite stupid. I mean, say I sit there for 20 minutes doing 40k damage to one of those red ratmen, its got 50 gold on the corpse, and some interloper happens by and picks up the arti when it spawns? Thats idiotic.

    If you ask me, these things should have 2000+ gold, a 100% chance of 1-5 area apropriate ingrediants. Minimum.

    And the crazy hard ones like the wyvern and its 1500 strength, should have more.

    I mean honestly, some of these guys are VERY hard to kill. They need to be rewarding.
     
  21. Sarsmi

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    But they are rewarding, i got a "magic key" off one of the goblin renowned guys. :)
     
  22. lucksi

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    I got nothing at all out of the undead renown. I think it was an ancestral lich. Or ancient lich? Whatever, it was no pushover. The loot was next to nonexistant (1.5k gold, some reagents, some crap) and the spawn reset afterwards.
     
  23. Sarsmi

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    I think teh chance to get something is low, I've killed maybe 10-15 renowned guys and only gotten that key. So not big numbers, but still. Seems like you have to kill quite a few to get lucky?