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mmmmmm luck

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Poo, Sep 28, 2014.

  1. Poo

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    remembered that new Talisman came out with luck on it, which is what my suit needed!

    sit back and get ready to get your luck fetish tweaked!

    2410 + statue = 3410 + Fel 1000 = 4410!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Nice.

    Too bad you can´t get the Perfection luck bonus with that temp.
     
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  3. Poo

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    could always put the suit on a warrior, i have the warrior ring and bracelet.
     
  4. Maximus Neximus

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    I think you should hop on ICQ so we can test out this luck...
     
  5. Yadd of Legends

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    Interesting you should post that, @Poo. I've never worried about luck - until now with the new loot, because I've been getting crap without it - pretty disappointing. Maybe it's time I started planning some luck suits - although I can't imagine how I would get 2410.
     
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    AoF, Luck Garb, Leurocian Mempo, cleanup jewels (either set), luck talisman. After that, 190 luck on all remaining pieces, and the Soles of Providence.

    My suit (which uses Chuckles' Hat, a currently unenhanced 150 luck weap, and a 190 luck gorg) only hits 2220 before luck statue bonus, which puts me at 2570.
     
  7. popps

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    Nice, congrats !

    Could you please post a split down of your suit as to what pieces have what mods ?

    Thanks !
     
  8. Yadd of Legends

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    Popp's request would be helpful if you don't mind - cause I'm wondering what attributes I would have to lower on my suit to make room for all this luck
    EDIT: I realize you can swap out a luck suit just before the kill on monsters like bosses or peerless that take a while to kill (my sampire does that with UEVs), but that's not really feasible for creatures you're killing pretty quickly, like miasma or spawn - so it seems like I'd have to consider a luck suit that's also survivable
     
  9. Tranquility

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    http://www.uoguide.com/Luck

    Just counting items that currently spawn in-game or are relatively easy to craft, the current maximum Luck that a single character can achieve is as follows:

    Head Slot: Reforged cap enhanced with spined leather or golden ingots - Luck 190

    Neck Slot: Leurocian's Mempo of Fortune - Luck 300 (490)

    Chest Slot: Armor of Fortune - 200 (690)

    Legs Slot: Reforged leggings enhanced with spined leather or golden ingots - Luck 190 (880)

    Arms Slot: Reforged sleeves enhanced with spined leather or golden ingots - Luck 190 (1070)

    Hands Slot: Reforged gloves enhanced with spined leather or golden ingots - Luck 190 (1260)

    Right Hand Slot: Reforged weapon enhanced with golden ingots - Luck 190 (1450)

    Left Hand Slot: Reforged shield enhanced with golden ingots - Luck 190 (1640)

    Ring Slot: Etoile Bleue - Luck 150 (1790)


    Bracelet Slot
    : Novo Bleue - Luck 150 (1940)

    Etoile Bleue / Novo Bleue set bonus - Luck 100 (2040)

    Robe Slot: Conjurer's Garb - Luck 140 (2180)

    Footwear Slot: Soles of Providence - Luck 80 (2260)

    Total: 2260 Luck

    Plus the new Talisman Lucky Charm (Luck 150) and we have our 2410!

    Poo let us know what you find with while wearing that suit! :embarrassed:
     
  10. Yadd of Legends

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    Hm, so we're talking 80M just for the mempo of fortune and conjurer's garb with luck - once again the rich get richer or those who don't have the gold pay to play or miss out - I don't think I like the new loot being based on luck this much
     
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    4410 luck is actually overkill as you only need 3982 for a 100% proc; honor would not improve upon success in this situation.

    You only need 1,144 luck for a 50% proc, which to me is reasonable enough given your suit will actually have decent mods other than luck. No way in hell I'd be satisfied with a suit that only had 35 cold resist. I obtained the mempo and garb when they were available and have a 1,900 luck base and decent (60s) resists, but I would focus on spined kits and re-forging paired with the 100% enhance tool you can get through UO's Origin store rather than bother with the 80M needed to "be there."
     
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    ya, that is my exact suit that is listed above, i didnt pay anything for it though.
    i was lucky enough (no pun intended) to get those items during game play. (AoF, conj garb, sandals ect ect ect)
    my T hunter and mage also have luck suits but not maxed out like that, my warrior too now that i think about it.
    it really dosnt take much to whip up a nice phat suit.
    if you have a imbuer ya just make like 10 of each pieces ya need for your suit.
    so 10 tunics, 10 legs, 10 arms and the such.
    then you imbue them with 90 luck onto each.
    then enhance each with spined.
    with having 10 of each our bound to get at least one to live.

    so now you have each piece of your suit with 130 luck.
    you from then can tailor the suit how ya need it.
    if your a tamer or mage or T hunter you can put on LRC and LMC and MR and then buff up the resists a little.
    or if your a warrior you can sink it all into resists.

    then do the same for a shield and weapon, or just go on the cheap and pick up one of those Jhanna(sp?) staffs or some swords of prosperity.

    drop on one of those robes of the equinox.

    then lastly make up a ring and watch how ya want it.
    go pick up 20 mushrooms from the tomb of the kings so you can put 100 luck on each.
    now youve got a suit that is probably around 1300 luck.
    you can hit the statue and it will probably get ya over 2000.

    cheap and easy.
    just follow me, im a cheap scot's man!
     
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    That's a great description! Thanks.

    How much Imbuing do you need to do all of that properly?
     
  14. Uvtha

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    Say, what is the luck boost formula?
     
  15. R Traveler

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    I had many 120-140 reforged pieces, tried to enhance without tool just for fun. Rarely 130 luck items enhanced to 170 successfully.
     
  16. DJAd

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    Do you guys prefer luck suit for a mage or melee/sampire?

    I found using a luck suit on my sampire was so much faster than using my tamer/mage. Only slight problem is no shield on my sampire so only 190 luck on weapon.
     
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    For doom bosses you need more than 10k luck for 100% drop.
     
  18. G.v.P

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    for arties? true, but also consider the gauntlet has a guaranteed drop system, as well :) so I'd wager faster kill efficiency would be more important than high luck in that situation.
     
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    I'd just go by what they have at UOGuide:
    http://www.uoguide.com/Luck

    edit: will need to verify:
    I might be thinking of event items but I thought they changed luck to random amongst top damager list
     
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    Ah cool, thanks.
     
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    Well, if you all think 1500 or s0 luck can make a big difference, I can do that without spending anything through imbuing and reforging (not counting fel and perfection bonus). But 3000 plus base luck - no way I can afford that. I guess I'm just saying this is another system tempting players to buy real-life gold to get the gear to have fun, and that bothers me. But I guess that's the way it's been for a while unless you've already been playing and collecting for years. Sorry for the rant. Back to practical matters.
     
  22. Lord Taliesin

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    Don't forget Compassions Eye has 250 luck and good mage mods!
    Anybody have tips on reforging a 150 luck shield? I've burned 200 charges worth of Copper Runics using powerful reforging with Auspicious/of fortune and only get 140 luck. Am I doing it wrong or do I need to sacrifice a goat to the RNG?
     
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    I had the same problem yesterday building my 2200 Luck Gargoyle Suit. I couldn't get a shield above 140 with Copper Runics.

    Bronze Runic with Powerful+Grand+Inspired (Auspicious/of fortune) 4 charges and I started getting 150 luck pieces.
     
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    Thanks for the tip, it worked! Now to clean up the goat entrails and enhance! 2250 luck before statue, mmmmm
     
  25. G.v.P

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    well luck is pretty straight forward--until you cap 100% I guess ;P but otherwise it's RNG bump. that being said, you can still end up with really crappy loot that is bumped to just plain crappy, and not really. so even if you max out, you're still going to sift through some ****.

    re-forging and imbuing remains the most practical solution to suit building. you can certainly find that one super arty even easier now, but the bulk of any pimped out suit is definitely re-forge/imbue driven...which...yeah, you eventually have to buy from Origin store to make enhance work, or waste a lot of materials...lol.
     
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    I learned something. So I had been wondering about this when hunting with some friends. When did it change? I need to read up!
     
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    Hm I'll have to do some digging. I thought they made a change in which luck was selected randomly amongst those qualified on the loot list but I can't verify. Perhaps around the time they changed how healing affects loot chance.

    Maybe best to disregard until I can find the evidence ;P. maybe I am thinking of event item changes.
     
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    410 luck is wasted. 4k luck gives you 100%

    personally i prefer bushido setup, kill much faster but yes you have to press 2 buttons (ai and honor)
     
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    i use a shield sometimes on samp. it just means you cant parry but alot of the time you dont need too. i also found that using mace and shields for the hld often is better than a luck piece because it ensures you get perfection bonus, plus kill stuff faster (mostly for high end stuff where theres alot of misses without hld)

    killing faster is always better than very slow but with high luck. only way luck is of benefit is if you can kill same speed as without. i use around 1600-1800 luck on my sampire now (before perfection, statue, and fel bonus)
     
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    Sampire Luck Suit: 2410
    Luck Statue: 400
    100% Perfection: 1000
    Fel Bonus: 1000

    Total: 4810 Luck

    This is about a week worth of farming (about 2 to 3 hours a day.) In my opinion the loot system is dead on. I haven't got anything I'd consider an upgrade yet, but I got a lot of nice loot and it shows the potential is there for items that I do need.

    I'm sure someone will ask what I've been killing or what not so... Ogre Lords, Daemons, Titans... oh my! (sorry I had to..)


    [​IMG]
     
  31. Theron

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    Does the extra 1000 luck in Felluca show in any window or it's just there and that's it?
     
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    Actually you can get a luck/conjurers garb ingame, if you spend enough time into it. (Turning in 100 artefacts from the blackthorn dungeon.)
     
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    What quest is that? I'd love to have one of those!
     
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    I saw a noticeable difference when my luck statue wore off putting me at 700 from 1650. I was getting an artifact of some level every 5 minutes or so with, and didnt see any in over 10 minutes with 700.
     
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    Where can I get one of those statues?
     
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    Unless you really need max luck, like poo's suit (2410 luck)
    You can swap the Aof with a tunic with "only" 190 luck, and get better resist/stats, at the cost of 10 luck.
     
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    you can buy one, should be pretty cheap, otherwise you can kill stuff in the anti-virtue dungeons, and one has a chance to appear in your back pack.
     
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    When you say cheap....how much would it be normally?
     
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    Its a 10th anniversary item, you can get them by killing stuff in legacy dungeons like shame, wrong, destard etc it will they will drop in your pack, but you can probably easily find a bunch of them in public houses you can use. Looks like a little blue/purple globe with a UO symbol on it. Called 10th anniversary statue.
     
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    I don't think it can be disregarded. I had noticed this change earlier in Shame, before the latest patches and publishes. My tamer seemed to be collecting loot as per usual, until joined by a friend and we partied up. Tamer was still the lead damage source, but the quality of the loot changed drastically, and not for the better. So the new motto must be, Go lucky, or go home. Hmmmm
     
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    Have a look at http://uo2.stratics.com/items/blackthorn-artifacts . It is one of the rewards for which you need to hand in 100 artefacts.

    And the 'luck-statue' is one of these: http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-armor/artifacts.php?category=3171 . (10'th anniversary statue. When used it boost your luck for one hour for 200 + 50*(acc-age in years). Most public rune librarys should have one for display/public use, too.)
     
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    If you are on Atlantic, I'll give you one.

    I've seen them for as low as 50k. But, with their turn in value, it's probably significantly higher.
     
  43. Poo

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    if you dont have allergies to Fel you can go to despise and chain a couple rat spawns.
    i usually pull like 3 of the drops per champ i do.
    on a given evening i usually get at least 1 statue.
    if you dont do champs then you can probably find them for sale for cheap.
    they are a very common drop in the virtue dungeons.
     
  44. Theron

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    Thanks for the offer, but I am in Europa ;)
     
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    Might be a good idea, I'll have to look it up.
     
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    Hey.... Anyone got a Studded Sampire LUCK Suit that's Refined with 65-70% DCI..? I think that's my next project and I'm curious how people who've done it have built it if so...
    Anyone?