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My betrayal.

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by archite666, May 28, 2008.

  1. archite666

    archite666 Guest

    This is in responce to alot of accusations from my prior guild. It might sound funny since I wrote this in responce in a different thread.


    For the record, my intentions with building the JSV house were always good, you didn't think id start building that house, take a month break, then continue it all along with the intention of joing KOC do you? I know it might look that way but to be perfectly honest I hadn't even fathomed joining KOC till the last fight night when I talked to fudd. And I was invited to join KOC long before TO formed But I didnt give it any thought. You wanna know why Elmer was trying to recruit me? Because I know what I'm doing, I don't cry cheater and I don't scream like a child in vent.

    As far as using people, I didnt use anyone, I was in the guild helping people, fighting "bad" people and using guild resources. Then I decided to join KOC and stuck around for maybe a week to think on it and in that time they only thing I asked was for gwen to burn a yew kit.

    You can think bad about me all you want, but if you can't argue with the fact that I have always tried to pay gwen and others for their services. I believe gwen can recall me paying her quite a bit of gold for resources and other things. Also I have bought and turned over many resources for the guild, barbed leather and tons of faster cast jewels come to mind. You think I some how stole something from you all? You all stole my enjoyment from playing this game, and that my friends is what I consider "even"

    If you wanna talk about anyone "using" anyone its the countless amount of no skill zerg you all let into the alliance who don't contribute anything and waste mass resources running their tamers.

    You want to know why I joined KOC? Its because I grew tired of all the yelling and crying in vent and being surrounded by no skill players, like mages who just try to caste flame strike all day and get interupted and then die and then call people cheaters.

    I'm fully aware I owe some people somethings, It was't my intention to screw anyone over, well maybe just a little bit, but as far as what I owe pantero I have full intentions of giving him what I owe him. The only reason for the delay is that I'm attacked on sight and that the few times someone has told me pantero wants to talk to me I have been attacked by stealthers.

    I could go on and on but there is no point, the bottem line is that I think there is no skill or maturity left in JSV. ( I hope that don't violate ROC) Most of what was there has been driven away and will continue to be drivin away by the current attitude there. I do feel horrible for some of the people in the alliance. I may list names later but you know who you are. Your guys' PVM is decent but the pvp is simply a reflection of that, We arn't barracoon so stop with the army of pets.

    Finally Id like to say I hope you all improve yourself so one day we could enjoy an awesome fight. My advice is as follows:

    1: Stop letting the pvmers try to pvp, this shows your lack of skill.
    2: Stop screaming in vent, it shows the level of maturity all too well.
    3: Stop letting anyone on the streets into the alliance. This after all was the reason I was able to talk to Fudd and have the "KOC seed" planted.
    4: This is a offshoot of 3, stop letting zan recruit people.
    5: Train some decent mages.
    6: Stop making everyones gear for them, it makes lazy.
    7: Use those pvm skills and start running good gear, you will be surprised how much it matters.
    8: Tell verum that although he is a very cool guy, he needs to listen more and talk less.
    9:(this one is by request) Elmer Fudd IS the GM of KOC.

    That is all, I look forward to seeing you in the field
     
  2. Krystal

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    lmao, all i can say is WOW
     
  3. Righty

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    Seriously. And Shak, maybe u should take some advice from your new guildie
     
  4. Shakaja

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    where did i miss the army, mr ns-ds-stealther complaining about pets?
     
  5. Righty

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    The army? You're in the middle of it. remember that 8on1 + dragon gank? fun times man fun times...
     
  6. Shakaja

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    hrmm i never saw you. were you stealthing around luna bank counting people and defining it as a everyone vs you?
     
  7. Slim

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    Hmmmm... I wouldn't call one guy with one pet a army of tamers. I mean hell he dosent stealth and hes on foot the whole time. And about ganking.... welcome to Siege!
     
  8. Hef

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    Congratz so you went from one zerg to another plus bluebee Shak and his gimp dragon ...

    btw Whats wrong with TO? And who said you even had a chance of getting in? :p
     
  9. Goron

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    So THATS what I'm doing wrong... hmmm:wall:


    :lick:
     
  10. Goron

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    *cough* ummm... ... nvm... I won't even bother...
     
  11. Calibretto

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    Cash if Panteros item(s) are returned I bid you no ill will. If it's my mage skill your calling into question you can meet me anytime. I too agree with you on the pets and all the bull**** yelling in vent. What I do not agree with is the way you chose to leave. Buy accessing KOC to the guild house so they could loot it?
     
  12. Hef

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    Good boy ... :D
     
  13. HaHa

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    That before or after your goodguy style breakdown?
     
  14. Calibretto

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    We know now don't we cash.







    Damn I forgot to fizz flamestrike...............:bdh:
     
  15. Razz

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    *sits down. Grabs the popcorn*
     
  16. Calibretto

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    Hold on buddie it's gonna be a wild ride.
     
  17. Chardonnay

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    Welcome to KOC cash...i guess what truly matters is your having fun NOW...
     
  18. archite666

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    Hell yeah im having fun lol, yeah its cool cali, you killed me 1 vs 1.

    if by 1 vs 1 you count you and verum as one person, rofl.

    Whatever dude, im sure your all high fiving each other in vent rofl.
    Smoke some more bro. But to be fair I never insulted you, just your guilds over all skill level, I mean look at tonight.

    Calibretto- mage
    Verum-dexer
    Suffering pain- dexer that doest wear armor and...well you all know heh.
    Kahlin- tamer
    Zan- dismount tamer
    Twilight-tamer
    Neo- stealth tamer
    beowolf- tamer

    I mean thats not a pvp group, no cross heals, no synergy. Rather sad compared to our 1 tamer, 2 dismounters and host of mages puttin people down.

    You just don't compare, And iv been on both sides of the fence, so sad.
     
  19. Hef

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    Cash you are seriously high dude ... you guys were sporting almost all stealthers and a tamer with a drag plus 3-4 at least dismounting ... also KoC has shak (well we all know how that goes) I think KoC has morphed into JSV or TnT ... they are all the same ;)
     
  20. archite666

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    Name them please sir, or better yet screen shot please.
     
  21. archite666

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    "also KoC has shak (well we all know how that goes)"

    Lol so we rocked you because of shaks insane skills? is that what that sentence implied? sounds like it to me.

    Now if your speaking of the other day when it was a giant field fight, yeah we might have had that many dismounters but today we had othello and gerbiler, and shak with a dragon, thats it.

    I challenge you to prove we had more dismounters or tamers than that, it probably just felt like that with the way we ravaged you all.
     
  22. Hef

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    Othello, The Gerbiler, Squid Wakayama, Back-in-Black, Vitamin K, Dame

    The first 4 are stealthers 3 of them are def dismounters ...
    The last 2 are stealther tamers with Super Drags ...

    Now dont start talking trash since u joined KoC ... u have no talent and even people in koc used to make fun of you and probably still do ...

    so please watch what u say ... :)
     
  23. Memnoch

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    This post and all its whining, has encouraged me to come back to siege!

    Discuss..

    *hugs*
     
  24. archite666

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    I didnt say anything about stealthers, will admit I forgot about dame, who is a tamer.

    Also your quite wrong about some of those temps, but I won't waste time arguing.

    Yawn, that it? its pretty bad when JSV can tear someone better than you.

    No talent? I have a talent for picking a bomb ass guild and not leaving one and just being spiteful cause i'm getting whooped on. :lick:

    Also for someone who sucks at this game and is made fun of, I was sure good enough to get an invite into your guild LOL.

    So what does that say about yall?
     
  25. archite666

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    Also sir, talent implies a born affinity for, I don't know too many people who came out of the womb pvping.

    What I have sir is called skill, a learned ability.

    And actually I'm not that even bomb of a mage, but i'm willing to get better, which is why I'm where i'm at.

    Thank you.
     
  26. Hef

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    You know what I just realized why are we even talking about you and "Your Betrayal". Like anyone cares about you ...

    btw keep practicing ... you have a long way to go

    good night
     
  27. archite666

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    Well actually i'm tired of getting Pms, Icqs and posts asking about this or that related, hence why I made this post, way to stick your foot in your mouth.
     
  28. Chardonnay

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    *Claps*

    People forget just because your good at dueling doesn't mean your a good PK just means your a great dueler and yes theres a difference...
     
  29. Chardonnay

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    Goodnight!
     
  30. archite666

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    Tell em NICO!
     
  31. Righty

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    Cash, I love all this posturing. Before you joined KOC, I thought you were a cool person, regardless of your skill. After watching this thread, though, I see that whoever you run with just influences your personality. It's sad to watch people's morals and reputation go down the drain just because they're being influenced by their "new friends". When you look back at this thread later, I hope you realize that you made the wrong decision.

    On a side note...I wonder how KOC divides up 1 person's loot among 10 + people. Is it a first come first serve, like vultures, or is it shakocratic process?
     
  32. Chardonnay

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    Iwasgonnaaskyouthesamethingaboutmems18mill?
     
  33. Righty

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    So it's 18 mil now is it? I remember that original post and it was 10 mil...hmm
     
  34. archite666

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    Ouch righty, Im being honest when I say that hits home coming from you, I haven't changed who I am, I simply grew tired of alot of things. I do disagree with somethings my guild does, but I disagreed with more stuff in JSV, its the lesser of two evils.

    I remember alot of people talking about ignoring guild tags and focusing on the person, Iv remained honorable in the field, or at least tried to.

    You speak of posturing, but really my eyes have just been opened to what KOC is all about, see I have seen though all the propaganda.

    I was always told and believed KOC to be this elite group of hackers and griefers, but really they are a group of like minded, easy going pvpers, im sorry other people can't see that but I dont blame them.
     
  35. Chardonnay

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    Not...?
     
  36. Magnolia

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    True and well put... KOC is fun/funny group, even on vent, and they are elite in their knowledge of the game.. Look forward to playing with you after July when I return..

    Hi Mem..
     
  37. Shakaja

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    see, now that is whats so funny about people. everything is a zerg. jsv is a zerg? i barely see more than 5-7 of them.

    koc is a zerg? after you few left, we have an average of 3-5 people on, 8 or 9 is the max ive seen online since you guys left.

    now lets look at your guild, the first day you left, i was fighting over 10 of you, including the two nasty tamers as well as neo. then a few days ago 6 of us (3 dismounters, 1 mage, 1 dexer and me) were fighting over 10 of your mages just after you had falcon and violator join you. and those numbers are not counting all the newbies youve also added to your guild. plus you guys keep saying how you have 15-20 more guys coming over from prodoshard.

    that makes me wonder if you played enough sc to know what zerg means and how it works ;P
     
  38. Calibretto

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    You know Verum wasen't even on screen when I killed you. Make more **** up. And your gonna make fun of me smoking while your choice is to take your recreation thru a straw? Only one I was fighting with last night was V.
     
  39. enigma eb2

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    Ohh yeah I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy this show. This is good enough for the networks to give it a second season for sure.
     
  40. Memnoch

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    Actually your both wrong.. It was 17, no worries though, karma makes the world go round. Sometimes blindly :D

    Hi Mag..
     
  41. kelmo

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    *tips hat*
     
  42. Lord_Puffy

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    bro.... thast messed up :) dont make me come back *brings out whippin stick!* :)
     
  43. Lord_Puffy

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    yep but normally the GM loot isnt worth much so we just stock up guild houses for people when they die... and money wise we normally all do our own thing :) Although spawning together is normally how we make most of it.


    And righty!! hows the snow!
     
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    MAG IS THE BEST MWA!!! ill return with you in july :)
     
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    just blaze!!! pass that shiii!
     
  46. Revvo

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    Back in my day the drama delivered, this nonsense is weak sauce :(
     
  47. HaHa

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    What i find sad is one person doing something then thinking its bad when someone else does it, hence the reason i compared you to GG earlier. I have been on the receiving end of numerous ganks from you and your guild. Know what? It happens, get over it. If you get seperated from a fight and your by yourself, its your fault. If you come rushing out of a house solo when theres 3 strong mages, a dismounter and a visible tamer and your running off at the mouth then you spaz out when you get killed, its your fault. Ganks happen all the time. Ive went up against a large number of you and was dropped, was my fault for trying to take on those numbers, but i made the decision to stay when I could have escaped, know what, it was my fault.Last night I fought TnT with 3 of my guildies. Against us there was Hattori(tamer), Krystal (on her tamer), Tide(dismounting), Sprago(was in stat so was dismounting), Count Chocula, and one or two other that i cant recall. We did well against them and when I told everyone to break off from them Cash got seperated and was killed. Now is that a gank? Or is that just part of PvP in UO?
    Now my point of all this is to show you that your guild and friends have been doing this since you were in VMP. Its part of life for a fighter whether you like it or not. If you cant accept it, then I can always suggest the Trammie thing like most anyone else would, or I could suggest prowling the dungeons more often looking for farmers.


    :bdh:


    Hehe good to see you on here again, but gimme a lil bit of time i just recently registered again so its gonna take me awhile to get some steam up.


    Hm quite odd, i was right there when he died . I saw him fighting you solo and my exact words in vent were"this looks interesting" so i didnt intervene, then Verum came up , hit him while your combo went off on him. When he ran off I went for Verum and he ran off in the opposite direction but when your combo hit Cash thats what actually killed him. So technically you are right, Verum was not on the screen when he died, though without the amount of damage Verum gave I doubt Cash woulda died.


    Wait ? Were not? Oh ffs, looking to join new guild. Must be hackers , willing to open links, and just in general a**holes. Scammers and exploiting a bonus.
     
  48. Goron

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    Do I suck that much that I don't even get mentioned? I'm just "one or two other that [you] can't recall"? :(
    Wow, thanks for the self esteem hit. I think I am going to go :shots:
    I even dismounted you personally like 3 times :(
    *goes off to find a long rope*
     
  49. Goron

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    You'd fit in well in Hello Kitty: Island Adventure.
     
  50. archite666

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    Cali bro, chill dude. My bad ,I was refering to smoke some more in a generalised comment, not actually tryin to direct to any real life **** my friend.
    I mean damn dude, board pvp and drama is all fine and stuff but come on, if its that serious let me know and il gladly raise the white flag, i'm not one to start like real life mortal enermys over a computer game.

    And I know typed words don't convey emotion very well, but let me be clear, I'm trying to give you guys constructive critism, I mean almost everyone in the alliance is cool but they do need to keep their cool. And you even have a couple of all stars and could, with alot of work, be a well oiled fighting force ( i'm probably gonna take **** from everyone including my current guild for saying that) But yeah my comment about the skill of mages was certainly not directed at you cali- son, but was rather directed at the many many players who are completes noobs when it comes to pvping and yet try to without the proper knowledge.