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My Christmas wish - a whine free Stratics

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Old Man of UO, Dec 23, 2008.

  1. How about it? Just for the rest of this Christmas week...

    Tomorrow is Christmas eve, then Christmas day. This is a time for me, my friends and family to be NICE to one another and enjoy this time of year. To my friends and not so friendly friends here on these Stratics forums, I am asking for a few days of "niceness."

    I read Stratics forums because there is a LOT of useful information here, shared by our fellow players and visiting developers. But sometimes it gets to be a drag reading so many negative posts. The same thing in most cases could have been said without going negative.

    So, here is my Christmas list for Stratics (please, feel free to add your own):

    No posts attacking another player. Be constructive in your criticism. Sometimes we all say things we shouldn't or word our posts so they sound worse than we meant them to. It's OKAY to same I am wrong or sorry. If I've offended anyone by something I've posted, I'm sorry.

    No posts saying, "DEVS I DEMAND AN ANSWER!" They answer to us all, and would most likely respond if they feel so inclined, not because you demanded it, but because they felt it necessary. Irritating them doesn't really help.

    No posts saying how the Developers, EA/Mythic, GM's or whoever doesn't care, are stupid or whatever and however many variations on that theme. They are people too, and they have bosses to answer too, and can't always give us exactly what we want how we want. I am not always happy with things in UO, but I am happy to still be playing UO after all these years, and want to thank them for that.

    There are bugs in the KR client. There are bugs in the 2D client. There are bugs in MS Windows XP, Vista, 98, ME, Bob and every other program out there... yes, even Linux. Report the bugs through proper channels first, then let the rest of us know... constructively. My experience is that MOST bugs are players misunderstanding of the game mechanics, but some bugs are real. A well thought out posting of the bug gets more respect than some maniacal rant, though both post contain the same information.

    No posting and reposting of the same thing over every day. We all experience lag... I've read most of the posts about over powered dragons, and speedhacks, and cheats... add to the existing ones instead of starting new ones every day. We get it already.

    And last of all, a very Merry Christmas to all of you and your family. May you have a wonderful holiday and a happy new year!

    [​IMG]
    If anyone is wanting a white Christmas and not getting the snow, we have over 100 inches so far! Here is the Christmas card that I sent out this year, taken in mid-November of my then 5 month old colt - Journey.
     
  2. sablestorm

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    I'm aboard! Seasons Greetings!
     
  3. _zigzag_

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    Works for me :)

    Thank you for this...I hope it is taken to heart.
     
  4. Oriana

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    I'll third, fourth and fifth this!!! LOL But I guess if they didn't whine and complain then we'd loose some of the passion. But agreed they could be a bit nicer and constructive.

    Merry Christmas!!! I still Love you all.
     
  5. I'd really love to see this as well ... for all the reasons listed!

    Here's your chance, people!
     
  6. Experimental

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    Fat chance it will happen though....
     
  7. DevilsOwn

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    a very merry Christmas to you, too, Old Man of UO, and to all the folks that wander this hall
     
  8. Aboo

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    Good idea! Maybe it will carry forward after this week as well and into the New Year.

    Hope everyone has a Joyous Christmas filled with lots of family and friends!
     
  9. deadite

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    Can we also ban the phrase "a slap in the face"?

    Pleeeeeeeeeease? :lick:
     
  10. Maplestone

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    Well, in a few hours I'll be signing off from stratics for the holidays (may try logging into the game by laptop from a rural ISP and see how that goes ... got to keep those seeds watered).

    It's been a long, difficult year for many of us and I know that many are facing real-life trials and tribulations that don't really translate into game chatter, but I just wanted to take this chance to thank all of my aquaintences here for another year of fun, friendship and escapism and hope that everyone has a chance to unwind and regenerate in the company of community, friends and family.

    *offers a toast of eggnog*

    Peace be with you all.
     
  11. peanutbutter

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    are you whining about whiners on stratics?

    :p

    i'm with ya. i will refrain from saying mean things like "your post is pointless" until after christmas (starting tomorrow).

    then it's boxing day and the gloves are off.
     
  12. Thank you... a drink well received.
     
  13. AnneNomilly

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    *raises a glass in toast*

    Peace on earth (and Stratics). Goodwill to all.
     
  14. Black Sun

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    Sounds like a good idea to me.
     
  15. Lord Vader

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    I hope dor you your (stratics) wishes to come true.
    Sick of most of the whining and dev bashing too. I am not a fanboy but some people really do exeggerate here.

    Merry christmas to you all!
     
  16. Sunrise

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    Raises her Rum glass..I mean egg nog glass..... Im game..

    Merry Christmas or what ever holiday you share this time of year and every year.....
     
  17. Merry Christmas everyone!!!
    :grouphug:
     
  18. Viper09

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    Here's to hoping!

    :beer:
     
  19. Sara Of Baja

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    May everyone have a Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year.
     
  20. Sunrise

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    Heres to drinking :D :danceb:


    Opps wrong thingy.. :beer:

    There we go :D
     
  21. Saunders

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    Merry Christmas, one and all!
     
  22. canary

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    You know one of the funniest things is that Jeremy once said how she thought this was the worst phrase ever from players... and then used it herself like the next month.

    Good times.
     
  23. deadite

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    I didn't catch that! But I do agree that it is the worst player phrase EVER. Seriously. Whenever I read a post where someone uses that phrase, I so seriously want to make it come true... Heh.
     
  24. Gem

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    Amen!

    And, please, no posts saying any variation on "I'm going to quit. I really mean it." Just quit or stay, no need to threaten.

    Happy Holidays!
     
  25. Experimental

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    Happy Yule (belated)


    [​IMG]
     
  26. Duskofdead

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    I guess I'll be Devil's Grinch. :)

    The problem I have with calls for everyone to be more constructive is that people tend to not get around the word "whiners" or "whining." This isn't a neutral word... it's extremely disparaging and implies a total lack of any real validity to something someone says. What goes around here the most I think is actual player frustration over something that is real, either by design or bug. (Even a lot of things that might be from design like oh I dunno.... why is the x drop rate is so low, is something that may irritate us from time to time.)

    If you would like to lay down a yule wreath of peace, my two cents is that you could start by not essentially calling any complaint or expression of dissatisfaction with a particular feature/bug/exploit/tactic a "whine."
     
  27. Tomas_Bryce

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    Hmm wonder what has a higher chance of happening first: Whine free Stratics or a nuclear holocaust?
     
  28. Duskofdead

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    You make it sound like nuclear holocaust isn't always potentially imminent. :)
     
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    Don't worry..... I'll be leaving work in a few hours and you won't have to hear from me until after the holidays.

    Hope you all have a good holiday. :grouphug:

    (except for all you cheaters....I hope you get coal in your stockings)
     
  30. Violence

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    The same stands for me, more or less.

    Since, as Maplestone said, "Players are happy." I should really give up Stratics as well.

    I suggest the Mods include a warning that the only people allowed to post are Happy Players, Paying Customers, Happy Players temporarily dismayed by minor issues such as cow-related bugs and any combination or sub-class of the above.

    Also include that while posts of different nature will be tolerated in some cases, self-appointed Forums Police comprised of EA Fan-Bois, cheating scum and greedy pixel traders WILL degrade and diminish such posts. Lastly,
    more often than not Mods will knit-pick posts of people no in the favoured categories mentioned above and replies they may post, looking for reasons to delete them or move them out of sight.

    With this in mind, it can't be harder than giving UO up even though some arguments here turned out quite interesting over the time. More insteresting than the game itself, even though it's a Join or Die like PvP and cheating within UO.

    Consider THIS "Whine" my last post. I would have shut my mouth if you had just stated all the above on your own, a long time ago. Well now I know don't I? Just like I would have quit years ago if I knew UO would end up such a ****-hole.

    Wish granted on both issues.
    Merry XMass, no grudges. Really. :eek: If there's ever a UO2 or UO is bought from another company, see you in their Forums and their game.
     
  31. Diomedes Artega

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    I work tomorrow so this post works for me and it is wishful thinking but hey, we can all try to do our part.

    Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas tomorrow!
     
  32. Gheed

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    You do have the power to make Stratics whine free over Christmas don't you? But to answer your question. Stratics could be whine free first... never nuclear holocaust. If a holocaust occurs, my guess is Stratics would become whine free at the same time... technically a tie.
     
  33. Do we really have to? I mean there is a bug when stratics becomes whine free it rains 1 million gold check... i need to call a gm.. wait.. they aren't....

    KIDDING!!!!

    Yeah for Whine free Stratics... But there is going to be Wine :D
     
  34. Ender

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    My Christmas wish - a dev team that cares.

    But in the words of the philosopher Jagger, "you can't always get what you want."
     
  35. Phaen Grey

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    I am in! Happy Holidays Folks