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Napa Meet and Greet Summary

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lord Taliesin, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. Lord Taliesin

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    I don't have a full transcript but I thought I'd post some of the highlights of last night's meeting with the Dev team.

    -Fey Slayer will be added to imbuing
    -IDOCs are staying at 5,10,15 hours with the ability to get your house back as long as you reactivate an account with greater than two hours until it falls. (not news but Mesanna confirmed no more changes, and she won't help get houses back if you wait too long after these new changes)
    -Haven teleport bug is fixed and awaiting publish
    -Small publish coming for Easter
    -Gold revamp, pet revamp, completion of the Virtue system and new clothing still in the works
    -Mesanna mentioned late June/early July for major publish, it wasn't clear if she was talking about Pub 90 or the new expansion or if those are the same thing.
    -Kyronix thinks Hot Air Balloons are "a fantastic idea!" Mesanna's wrath was swift at their mention.
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    -Fugly Casanova and Bob Ross challenged the devs to a 2x2 duel, Mesanna declined saying that she would just cheat.
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  2. Lord Frodo

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    Been gone for a little over a year, please give info on this.
     
  3. The Zog historian

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    Now this is welcome!
     
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  4. Shady Ghost

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    OH Finally, can make decent fey weapon for fencing and macing now.
     
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  5. MalagAste

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    I still think they should allow the imbuing of Crafted Spellbooks.

    A warrior can get anything they want put on their weapons... Throwers, macers, fencers, swords, and archers. Why can't mages?

    Instead we have to rely on an extremely antiquated system to blow through resources that are next to impossible to get.... I can do 100 Lady M runs and not get enough Taint to make ONE scrappers. I can spend 16 hours stealing in the Exodus dungeon area trying to get keys and stuff and not get enough Taint to make a Scrappers.

    And then in the Off chance you come up with enough ingredients to actually CRAFT a Scrappers the chances of you getting a "slayer" are slim to none. I've made 100's of them... and I've gotten maybe 2 slayers and even then it's something totally stupid like a water elemental slayer or a lizardman slayer.

    Actually getting a "useful" slayer is nearly impossible.... top that off with the fact that Mages can't even get the slayer benefit of a Talisman and you see why we need to be able to IMBUE the freaking things.

    And I heard the "argument" that Mesanna gave about if they made it something you could "Imbue" then it would put Inscribers out of business... THAT is a lie! If anything it would make it useful again because everyone would want a ton of the plain ones to imbue. Also you can't overpower them... There are "caps" on things. It wouldn't make the skill any less viable than Blacksmithing or Trailoring. You still need THOSE skills to make the base items to imbue. So you would still need Inscription to make the base item to imbue. If anything it would give the skill a boon.

    If I could imbue a regular spellbook that would be fine too... But cut mages some slack and throw them a bone would ya?
     
  6. Keith of Sonoma

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    I LOVE that idea. I paid A LOT of gold for my dragon slayer scrapper. Probably upwards of 1000 times what a dragon slayer weapon costs! Not 3 weeks after which, I crafted my first (and so far only) super slayer scrapper, a reptile of course. ROFL
     
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    I wouldn't go as far as allowing imbuing of books, since they last forever.
    But I would be for a turn in reward, void pool or some other system reward in the form of a special scribe pen with limited uses that assures you would roll a slayer on your book.
     
  8. Keith of Sonoma

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    Not a bad idea!
     
  9. MalagAste

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    How would that be fair? Listen if you want to put durability on books then so be it... but there has to be some way to get a freaking slayer you NEED and want by choice like any warrior can. I don't want to go and have to gather 8000 taint just to get a useful scrappers that's not some stinking stupid snow elemental slayer and might actually be "useful".
     
  10. Deraj

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    Here is the transcript in all its bizarre glory. There was a problem at the beginning with the crystals and I was unable to hear Mesanna's initial responses.

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    : [Crystal] EM Chance says: yes
    : [Crystal] Kyronix says: Hello!
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: ack
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: welcome to Napa
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: nauseated from moving that fast
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: thank yoou for coming
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: my conserns are 2 points
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: one, the IDOC times of up to 15 hours is extremely long, unhealthy..can lead to DVT and pulmonar
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: pulmonay embolisms
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: soooo please consider a reasonable max time of say 5 to 7 hours?
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: it also benefits the scripters, not reg fold
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: folk
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: agreed
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: i agree with the wipe of house list, just not the advantage to scripters who can monitor 24/7
    : [Crystal] EM Chance says: crystal not working they cant see text
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: i know you have helped a friend on napa regain a house, ty
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: another issue
    : [Crystal] Watcher says: is
    Mesanna: wait
    Mesanna: I want to state why
    Mesanna: I checked and since she renewed her account on the line
    Mesanna: I gave her the house back because I sided with the player
    Mesanna: thats why she got that house back
    Mesanna: and then dropped it!
    Mesanna: go ahead
    Mesanna: your next point =)
    Watcher: what has ahppened to many old items in the counselor's house in ilshenar?
    Mesanna: we have not touched that house
    Watcher: they were on display in the past, and nowhere to be seen now
    Watcher: the house has been redecorated inside
    Mesanna: I have not clue it would take a GM to get those items
    Mesanna: we have not touched the house
    Mesanna: here on Napa?
    Watcher: yes
    Mesanna: sorry this is news to me
    Watcher: okay just a bit leery of where our history has gone
    Mesanna: wait
    Mesanna: where did you say this house is
    Watcher: in ilshenar
    Mesanna: I am not aware of a house there
    Mesanna: so beats me
    Watcher: way west of luna
    Mesanna: are you sure?
    Watcher: oops that is malas
    Watcher: not ilshenar
    Mesanna: OK
    Mesanna: wow
    Mesanna: the EM has that house
    Mesanna: I will look into it
    Watcher: ty
    Mesanna: thats why I put them there
    Mesanna: for the items to be displayed
    Watcher: yay
    Mesanna: thanks for the heads up
    Mesanna: anything else?
    Watcher: that is fine
    Watcher: thank you
    Watcher: goodnight
    Mesanna: Thank you
    Mesanna: Have a good evening
    Mesanna: Anyone else
    Mesanna: ?
    Pikeman: Hello
    Mesanna: Evening PIkeman
    Pikeman: Since there are only a few people here, I have 5 or 6 questions if that is alright
    Misk: hello!
    Mesanna: we will answer them as you ask then
    Pikeman: First question
    Pikeman: Is there a particular reason for not allowing profession titles in guild titles?
    Pikeman: Such as blacksmith, ranger, or warrior, for example
    Mesanna: it goes back to the beginning to preserve the titles and keep people from scamming others
    Pikeman: Do you think it's still necessary? I kind of wish we could use those titles at times
    Mesanna: yes I do
    Pikeman: Understood
    Pikeman: Second question
    Mesanna: for the scamming reason alone
    Mesanna: to be honest
    Pikeman: This is about gamemasters
    Mesanna: ok
    Pikeman: I have some concerns, and I'm not asking this out of frustration, just concern
    Pikeman: I know we've seen some griping on the forums and such
    Pikeman: In my own experience paging a GM, I have noticed a few problems
    Pikeman: There seems to be no notification of one's place in the queue, or even if there is a queue
    Pikeman: Or even if there is a GM available to answer the page
    Pikeman: And there is not, and please correct me if I am wrong, any posted times
    Pikeman: for when GMs are available
    Pikeman: In my own personal experience doing customer service, calls going unanswered is not a good thing
    Pikeman: Do you have any thoughts or plans or desires to improve notifications or GM service?
    Mesanna: ok so let me address the number in the queque first
    Mesanna: we changed from a global system which UO was started with
    Mesanna: to a newer system to track pages
    Mesanna: when that happen we lost the number in the queque
    Mesanna: I can see if one of the engineers over that system can add it
    Mesanna: no promises
    Mesanna: as far as the service
    Mesanna: I do understand, and I personally have started as of today to help take calls when
    Mesanna: I have a few moments to spare
    Mesanna: We have several GM's out sick so its hurting us
    Pikeman: Ahh
    Mesanna: and yes I do understand your frustrations
    Pikeman: No no, not frustrated, just concerned
    Mesanna: we are trying to come up with better tools to help with this
    Mesanna: I as the Producer and a player agree with you
    Mesanna: we should and will do better
    Pikeman: My next quewstion
    Mesanna: ok
    Pikeman: Is about BODs
    Pikeman: I hate BODs
    Pikeman: And I think it is a wildly out of date system
    Mesanna: agreed as we stated in past M&G's
    Pikeman: Would you consider, in the future, revamping them into more of a fishing quest/trade quest style
    Mesanna: we are going to change the reward system to something similar to Tokuno
    Pikeman: Oh
    Pikeman: Well that answers my question perfectly
    Mesanna: Sweet
    Pikeman: Next question
    Pikeman: Can you provide any additional information at this time about upcoming skill masteries?
    Pikeman: How they work, etc?
    Mesanna: sorry
    Mesanna: Bleak is giving me a hard time
    Mesanna: Oh we are going to be releasing more information in the near future
    EM Chance: *snikers at bleaks death*
    Pikeman: Okay
    Mesanna: I think you guys are really going to like the changes
    Pikeman: Also, is there anything you can say about what the new player experience you are working on
    Pikeman: will be like?
    Mesanna: The team is working hard on this new system
    Mesanna: We are not working on that now
    Mesanna: but
    Mesanna: we need to put it in before we go to steam
    Mesanna: it will not be in Publish 90
    Mesanna: which will be out in late June early July
    Pikeman: One more question, really more of a suggestion
    Mesanna: ok
    Pikeman: And I'll stop harrassing you
    Mesanna: *smiles*
    Pikeman: In the dev diary it was mentioned there will be new clothing
    Pikeman: Can you please add a sea-captain's coat to that list
    Pikeman: I think it would be very fitting for the game
    Mesanna: Oh that would be good
    Mesanna: nice suggestion
    Pikeman: Thank you
    Mesanna: I will see if we have time for it
    Pikeman: That's all I have, I appreciate your time and responses
    Mesanna: thank you
    Mesanna: have a good evening
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: hello all
    Mesanna: Good evening Fine Wine
    Kyronix : Hello!
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 4 questions
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 1. any chance all the EMS could post to one website on perhaps a calendar?
    Mesanna: We are making a new website
    Mesanna: on uo.com
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: even better a google calender? that syncs to our phones?
    Mesanna: that should have a calendar for this
    Mesanna: but no
    Mesanna: each EM has their own web site
    Mesanna: but have you visited our facebook page
    Mesanna: we are posting them there also
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: Facebook is the devil.
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: :)
    Mesanna: ok trying to give you options =)
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: stratics is easiest for me.
    Mesanna: Not posting them there sorry
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: and some have stopped posting there
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: ok next question
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: Gold. how soon are we going to see a change to the currency?
    Mesanna: next big publish
    Mesanna: Bleak is working on it now
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: awesome, thank you. so tired of the vendor storage. :)
    Mesanna: me too
    Mesanna: Vendor ATM's
    Mesanna: lol
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: so sketchy lol
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: :)
    Mesanna: I agree
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: next question.
    Mesanna: we are starting to get a line
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 3. Idocs. 15 hours? really?
    Mesanna: already talked about this
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: what is the logic in that?
    Mesanna: it varies from 5 to 10 to 15 hours
    : [Crystal] Mesanna says: it varies from 5 to 10 to 15 hours
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: im sure it will eventually...
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: but still 15 hours?
    Mesanna: top yes
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: why?
    Mesanna: changed from 20
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: purpose?
    Mesanna: You know
    : [Crystal] Mesanna says: You know
    Mesanna: we listen to you guys and you complain about scripters
    Mesanna: then we made a change from 20 hours to put some variance in it
    Mesanna: and tell you it will drop at 5 10 or 15 hours
    Mesanna: and we still get complaints
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 2 4 or 6 does the same thing
    Mesanna: no
    Mesanna: not with the change we are making so players can get their houses back
    Mesanna: as stated earlier
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: ahh so it was a compromise.
    Mesanna: It will do one last check
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: lastly
    Mesanna: I would rather keep players than drop houses
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 4. Young players at idocs. Ive noticed some still look young. Perhaps they are just renouncing
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: and then coming to the party
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: just wondering if you guys tested that.
    Mesanna: We tested it for trial accounts
    Mesanna: youngs that are paying for the account have every right to be there
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: and the trial accounts that renounce... have you tested them?
    Mesanna: that doesn't matter
    Mesanna: its still a trial account
    Mesanna: trial accounts can not pick up items
    Mesanna: from a idoc house
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: ok. Thank you for your time. but seriously 15 hours is crazy talk. :)
    Mesanna: Thank you
    Mesanna: ok no more 6 questions to many people in line now
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Good Evening, Dark Lady and honored minions!
    Mesanna: Good evening
    Kyronix : Hello!
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: If I may ask two questions.
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: First a quick one.
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Is there any chance of allowing us to imbue Fey Slayer?
    Mesanna: we have that on our list actually
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Wonderful!
    Mesanna: we are going to add it
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: :)
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Secondly, could I invite you to give us a tease or sneak peak of something upcoming?
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: There's got to be something you all are working on that you're dying to tell us?
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: :)
    Mesanna: we did give you a sneak peak with your video
    Mesanna: we will be giving more in the near future
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: A sneakier peak , then?
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: :)
    Mesanna: lol
    Mesanna: cute
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: I've heard rumors
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: of
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: ...
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Hot air balloons?
    EM Chance: lol
    Kyronix : What a fantastic idea
    Mesanna: do you want me to kill you
    EM Chance: hahahaha
    Mesanna: =P
    : [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: It would be an honor.
    EM Chance: lol
    : [Crystal] Taliesin says: :)
    Mesanna: don't have to ask me twice =)
    : [Crystal] Taliesin says: Have a great night!
    Mesanna: you also
    Mesanna: thank you
    Mesanna: Evening Waters
    : [Crystal] Taliesin says: my blessed items
    : [Crystal] Taliesin says: reequiped!
    Mesanna: that was a fix
    Mesanna: we did
    : [Crystal] Waters says: Evening!
    : [Crystal] Waters says: Two specific questions if I may
    Kyronix : Greetings!
    : [Crystal] Waters says: What determines whether an item will receive the material's name upon enhancement?
    : [Crystal] Waters says: I ask because I have enhanced a few items and no name change
    : [Crystal] Waters says: Others have reverted to material names after a few server cycles
    Mesanna: do you mean enchancing with valorite or whatever
    : [Crystal] Waters says: Yes
    Mesanna: can you be more specific
    Mesanna: ok
    : [Crystal] Waters says: I enhanced Alchy bracers
    : [Crystal] Waters says: they retained their name
    : [Crystal] Waters says: an orc chieftain helm
    : [Crystal] Waters says: after a week became "horned...
    Mesanna: so we do not have a good answer to this
    Mesanna: but
    Mesanna: if you could email us the steps to let us confirm this
    Mesanna: and give specific items etc
    : [Crystal] Waters says: sure thing
    Mesanna: we would appreciate it
    Mesanna: you have my email right?
    : [Crystal] Waters says: I know where to find it, will do it after this session
    Mesanna: send it to me and I will make sure everyone sees it
    : [Crystal] Waters says: thank you. Secondly,
    Mesanna: [email protected]
    : [Crystal] Waters says: does the damage from frenzied whirlwind count towards leech effects?
    Mesanna: Bleak want to answer this
    Bleak: No
    Bleak: it is seperate
    : [Crystal] Waters says: Ok thank you very much for your time. Also if there is a Bleak look-a-like contest I think I win
    : [Crystal] Waters says: =D
    Mesanna: thank you
    Mesanna: lol
    Bleak: =D
    : [Crystal] Waters says: Have a good evening!
    Mesanna: you also
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: haill all bad typer here lol
    Mesanna: Evening Arm
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: vet rewards
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: can we get some kind of clean up
    Mesanna: you mean turn in one reward for another?
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: my picks of robesworthless
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: like 50
    Mesanna: since we made the change you an sell and use vet rewards no
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: to get eomething
    Mesanna: we will not have a turn in system for them
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: i was dumb and picked earlier
    Mesanna: I am sorry
    Mesanna: but now you have the option to buy them from someone
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: new vet reward , an armor stand
    Mesanna: or have someone that loves you give you items =P
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: where u can put armor and give alol stats
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: like manaquin
    : [Crystal] Lord Arm says: just an idea
    Mesanna: we can add it to manniquins
    Mesanna: mannequins
    Mesanna: anything else?
    Arm: i see they ask about 15 hours idocs
    Mesanna: several tinmes
    Arm: it is too long
    Mesanna: times
    Mesanna: not going to keep talking about the same subject please
    Arm: at enets the lag bad
    Arm: events
    Arm: lag is bad
    Arm: so many multis
    Arm: im sure its been said
    Mesanna: yes sir it has
    Arm: are there gms?
    Arm: when i call nwver come
    Mesanna: yes we stated this also
    Mesanna: yes sir
    Mesanna: ok we have a longer line
    Mesanna: anything else
    Arm: well ty thats all really just haye cheating ty
    Alie: hi all
    EM Chance: *hands allie a robe*
    Mesanna: Greetings Alie
    Alie: i am too hot
    Alie: so i need to be naked
    Alie: lol
    Bleak: Hello Alie
    Alie: few questions
    Mesanna: 2
    Mesanna: only
    Alie: Mannequins, Can one day we be able to rename them? will be nice to rename after the Toon/Suit
    Mesanna: I will add it to our list
    Alie: ok
    Alie: also
    Alie: was asked b4
    Alie: about
    Alie: Turn Point Menu
    Alie: any change to get a better menu? like page maybe? hard to click 15 pages to pick last dyes
    Alie: if i need to buy 10 dyes
    Alie: i have to click 40x
    Alie: to go buy
    Mesanna: we would have to revamp the whole system
    Mesanna: its just time consuming
    Alie: oh
    Alie: well
    Alie: now
    Alie: for the best
    Alie: KILL ME
    Mesanna: but we do understand what you are saying
    Alie: Love u all
    Alie: gn
    Mesanna: now you have a robe
    Mesanna: night
    Mesanna: hi Bob
    Bob Ross: hail all
    Bob Ross: couple pvp questions
    Bleak: 42
    Bob Ross: any thoughts on increasing the stat timer to say 5-7 mins
    Bob Ross: since there is stat pots now
    Bob Ross: 3 mins is just to short
    Bob Ross: when its out numbered
    Bob Ross: ?
    Mesanna: one sec they are looking it up
    Bob Ross: 5-7 mins woulsd make ppl
    Bob Ross: use the stat pots
    Mesanna: we will look into it and discuss it
    Bob Ross: ty
    Mesanna: welcome
    Mesanna: good point
    Bob Ross: i mean
    Bob Ross: ppl can res
    Bob Ross: faster thewn u can kep them down
    Bob Ross: also
    Bob Ross: the haven bug
    Bob Ross: is that being looked at
    Mesanna: we have it fixed
    Bob Ross: nice
    Bob Ross: thats all i got
    Mesanna: will be published soon
    Mesanna: thank you
    Bob Ross: take care
    Mesanna: you also
    Mesanna: Evening Demigodess
    Kyronix : Hello!
    : [Crystal] Kyronix says: Hello!
    Demigodess: you too Mesanna
    Bleak: Hi
    Demigodess: :p
    Demigodess: what the new lands and new animal and those speical items
    Demigodess: whats the new skill item olny thing
    Mesanna: umm
    Mesanna: what are you talking about sorry lost me
    Mesanna: not following your question Demi
    Demigodess: alot of people get lose talking me me i want to know about the new animals we will have
    Mesanna: oh
    Mesanna: are you talking about when we do the pet revamp
    Mesanna: or this upcoming publish?
    Demigodess: yup
    Demigodess: pet
    Demigodess: revamp
    Mesanna: ok we honestly do not have all of them finalized
    Mesanna: so I would rather not say something that is not true
    Mesanna: when you have a list
    Mesanna: we will let you guys know
    Mesanna: that is just going to take alot of art
    Mesanna: new mobs etc
    Demigodess: ok is theres going to be a smaller animal than greater in it
    Mesanna: Yes
    Mesanna: I would love to shrink the Greater =P
    Demigodess: becuase they allways get in the way of event just too big
    Mesanna: we understand
    Mesanna: give mobs a new skill to turn them into a bunny..lol
    Demigodess: lol
    Demigodess: that be fun and make them have cool colors
    Mesanna: within reason yes
    Mesanna: no purple dragons
    Demigodess: awww :p
    Mesanna: Any other questions?
    Demigodess: whats the new vet eths
    Demigodess: going to be or you dont know
    Mesanna: don't know yet for this year
    Demigodess: i would do a dragon looking thing
    Demigodess: that you can change its colors
    Demigodess: lol Chance
    Mesanna: Anything else Demi
    Demigodess: what do do Misk and
    Mesanna: Our line is getting longer
    Demigodess: Bleak do
    Mesanna: Bleak Engineer
    Mesanna: Misk QA
    Demigodess: and kyronix
    Mesanna: Kyronix Dev
    Demigodess: one last thing I LOVE YOU MESANNA :p
    Mesanna: *smiles* thank you Demi
    Mesanna: thats kind of you
    Demigodess: *smiles too*
    Mesanna: have a good evening
    DarkSlave: Hello it's a pleasure to be in your presence..im a 16 year vet,i didnt play much and i would like
    Mesanna: HI Darkslave
    Bleak: Hello
    Kyronix : Hello!
    DarkSlave: to know when i can get my mesanna masks painted here
    DarkSlave: ive talked to you before
    DarkSlave: no paint yet
    Mesanna: have a house?
    DarkSlave: :)
    Mesanna: send me the location
    DarkSlave: yea
    DarkSlave: copy that
    Mesanna: I will go find them and dye them
    Mesanna: eaier
    Mesanna: easier
    DarkSlave: sweet that will work for me
    DarkSlave: thank you
    Mesanna: great most welcome
    DarkSlave: can you dev's please ask us before you make massive changes we all live for this game
    DarkSlave: and thank you
    Mesanna: Thats why we put stuff on TC
    Mesanna: for feedback
    DarkSlave: Willard loves you all Remember me!!!!!!!!
    DarkSlave: take care
    Mesanna: Have a great evening
    Mesanna: you also
    DarkSlave: u too
    Mesanna: did you miss Fugly
    EM Chance: he cut
    Mesanna: Evening D'Artagnan
    EM Chance: he is after art
    D'Artagnan: hi
    Mesanna: hi
    Mesanna: how can we help you this evening
    D'Artagnan: 1 i have q is about life bars at events can u consider a different hue for the bosses?
    D'Artagnan: say like bright orange or somthin
    Mesanna: we have talked about colored health bars for difficulty
    D'Artagnan: and another question
    Mesanna: ok
    D'Artagnan: about crafting menue
    D'Artagnan: anyways of makiing the make max tab
    D'Artagnan: faster
    Bleak: No sorry
    D'Artagnan: the crafting is way to slow
    Mesanna: lol no it would make Bleaks head explode to mess with that
    D'Artagnan: when filling large amount of bods
    D'Artagnan: and weapons and suck
    D'Artagnan: such sorry
    D'Artagnan: what u mean?
    Mesanna: its pretty much as fast as its going to get, atleast you can macro it
    Mesanna: yes we understand
    Mesanna: but its not an easy change either
    Mesanna: and we all know crafting can be a pain at times
    D'Artagnan: something to work on maybe please?
    D'Artagnan: future..
    Mesanna: no promises
    Mesanna: but we will take it under consideration
    Mesanna: how about that
    D'Artagnan: i have have 1 thing for mesanna
    Mesanna: if we see a way we will
    Mesanna: yes sir?
    D'Artagnan: since this is the first time ive been able to catch u
    D'Artagnan: may i ask u to dye my masks for me please
    Mesanna: please do what I asked the other guy to do for me
    Mesanna: send me an email with your house location and where the mask is
    D'Artagnan: sorrry missed that?
    Mesanna: I will go tomorrow and dye them
    Mesanna: its ok you have my email address?
    D'Artagnan: no i dont sorry
    D'Artagnan: and please ty very much
    Mesanna: [email protected]
    D'Artagnan: :::)))))
    D'Artagnan: OMG ty a bucnh
    D'Artagnan: !!
    Mesanna: welcome
    Mesanna: have a good evening
    Mesanna: Hi Fugly
    Fugly Casanova: what UP :)
    Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
    Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
    Fugly Casanova: couple questions
    Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
    Mesanna: only if you stop swinging
    EM Chance: haha
    Fugly Casanova: have you guys ever thought about making another way to gain justice?
    Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
    Mesanna: no sir we have not
    Fugly Casanova: with all the blues most shards don't have reds to kill to gain justice
    Mesanna: we want to finish the system first
    Fugly Casanova: and will you dye jack o lanterns also?
    Mesanna: you hear my answer right
    Fugly Casanova: k
    Mesanna: will be happy to, look forward to your email
    Fugly Casanova: good enough answer for me
    Fugly Casanova: ty
    Mesanna: welcome
    Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
    Mesanna: have a good evening
    Fugly Casanova: duel me and bos ross dev team?
    Mesanna: lol we cheat
    Fugly Casanova: so
    Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
    Mesanna: we have I win buttons
    Fugly Casanova: would be a great video then
    Fugly Casanova: :)
    Mesanna: *grins*
    Fugly Casanova: see ya :)
    Mesanna: Night\
    Alfred von Weez: Hi
    Mesanna: Greetings Alfred
    Kyronix : Greetings
    Alfred von Weez: Two quick questions: One, would you please dy e my maks if I send you and e-mail?
    Mesanna: yes
    Mesanna: that was easy
    Alfred von Weez: (I heard your response before)
    Mesanna: thank you
    Alfred von Weez: Also, any thoughts of enhancing the harrower experience?
    Alfred von Weez: I mean, you re-did the leagcy dungeons
    Alfred von Weez: but not the harry
    Mesanna: true but we have not done all of them yet
    Alfred von Weez: just a thought
    Mesanna: we have not thought about revamping him
    Alfred von Weez: TYou should maybe...
    Mesanna: if you have any suggestions we would love to read them
    Alfred von Weez: Great, thanks
    Alfred von Weez: Have a great night :)
    Mesanna: anytime
    Mesanna: you also Alfred
    Mesanna: Greetings Maparoni
    Maparoni: wow that was fast, haha
    Maparoni: hiya Mesanna
    Maparoni: so 2 questions...
    Maparoni: I was curious to know if you guys will ever be adding the option to have stairs on any side of
    Maparoni: custom placed houses
    Mesanna: only the front
    Mesanna: there are issues for the east side
    Mesanna: they won't work
    Maparoni: :[ even the north? for places in luna?
    Mesanna: and with the placement restrictions it makes it harder also
    Maparoni: hmm i guess that's true heh
    Mesanna: would be messy
    Maparoni: No probs, was just curious if it was possible
    Maparoni: second was about emails...
    Mesanna: ok
    Maparoni: I have sent out emails through uo.com contact page, and an email to you, but haven't received
    Maparoni: any responses in weeks/months...
    Mesanna: about bugs?
    Maparoni: Is there something with that? too many?
    Mesanna: accounts?
    Maparoni: about account issues
    Mesanna: well the ones coming to me gets forwarded
    Mesanna: to [email protected]
    Mesanna: you should be sending them there honestly
    Mesanna: if you are still having issues I can try to help
    Mesanna: but we need to havea ticket to track first
    Maparoni: I was told to email [email protected] or [email protected], I tried both of those
    Maparoni: was 2 or 3 weeks ago
    Mesanna: I am not going to ask your information here
    Maparoni: okie
    Mesanna: so send me an email stating this is me from Napa
    Mesanna: and I will look thru the emails to see if I have any from you
    Mesanna: best I can do right now
    Maparoni: Awesome, sounds good, I can also just resend the old email as well
    Mesanna: true
    Mesanna: you can do that
    Mesanna: thank you
    Maparoni: Thank you as well :D
    Maparoni: I'll send tonight
    Mesanna: ok
    Mesanna: I will check in the morning
    Mesanna: have a good evening Maparoni
    Maparoni: Glad to have met ya :D
    Maparoni: u too, cya later
    Mesanna: You also
    Mesanna: Greetings Hera
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: good evening
    Mesanna: they won't help you
    EM Chance: lol
    Hera: thats ok
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: i a veteran player
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: 16 years
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: and never met you guys
    Mesanna: what can we do for you tonight
    Hera: so wanted to come and say hello
    Mesanna: Thank you
    Hera: my family plays
    Kyronix : Hello!
    Mesanna: We love to hear that
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: we have like 18 accounts and play in many servers
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: i just wanted to tell you that we love your game
    Hera: and think it has many plus and a few minus
    Mesanna: Thank you, I have meet several families that still play together
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: but overall we love the game and keep coming back after short breaks
    Mesanna: We do appreciate hearing that
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: yeah i know there will always be cheaters
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: and not a lot can be done but we do all aspects of the game
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: recdu recsu
    Hera: and will look forward to the new expansion
    Mesanna: we are excited about the upcoming one
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: yes any ideas how long?
    Mesanna: yes late June early July
    Hera: Guards
    Hera: wow thats great
    Mesanna: with a small publish for easter
    Hera: thanks
    Hera: !
    Mesanna: have a good evening
    Hera: you too
    Hera: all of you
    Mesanna: thank you
    EM Chance: i think shes afk
    Mesanna: Greetings Beth
    Mesanna: Greetings Whisper
    Whisper: :)
    Whisper: how are yall
    Mesanna: good and yourself
    Whisper: busy woman
    Whisper: its been
    Whisper: 2 yrs since i saw u Mesanna
    Mesanna: I am around
    Whisper: i heard u mite color my mask?
    Whisper: i know
    Whisper: u have spies
    Mesanna: did you read what I told the other players?
    Whisper: lol
    Whisper: im good
    Whisper: iheard
    Whisper: ty
    Mesanna: good deal
    Whisper: im not here to compalain
    Whisper: just to say hi
    Whisper: :)
    Mesanna: thank you
    Whisper: oh and
    Mesanna: I will watch for all the emails in the morning
    Kyronix : Greetings!
    Mesanna: make sure you guys mail me
    Whisper: lol
    Whisper: drink lots of coffee
    Whisper: rofl
    Mesanna: lol
    Whisper: thats all
    Whisper: wanted to greet ya
    Whisper: :)
    Mesanna: have a good evening'
    Whisper: u too
    Whisper: all of u
    Mesanna: ok last one tonight is Beth
    Whisper: :)
    Mesanna: Hi Beth
    Beth: Hello
    Beth: Can I ask a couple of questions?
    Mesanna: 2
    Mesanna: sorry getting late
    Beth: 1?
    Mesanna: you can ask 2
    Beth: Ok
    Mesanna: go ahead
    Beth: I wish to ask that you have any plan to enhance or complete the EC or
    Beth: plan for unify the client as one which remake the game from fundamental
    Beth: As you may know that CC doesn't have chance of getting new functions
    Mesanna: Bleak will answer this for us
    Beth: and EC doesn't look not good, no offense, to both of Asia and US players
    Bleak: We just added new features to the EC in last couple of publishes.
    Bleak: What do you suggest we change about the client?
    Beth: It would be took a little bit time, is it okay?
    Mesanna: Email would be better
    Beth: Yes, I thought about it just now
    Mesanna: than doing it here
    Mesanna: lol
    Beth: I think I better email you feedback
    Mesanna: that would be great
    Beth: And one another question
    Beth: About quest
    Beth: I know that we have lots of quests but
    Beth: unfortunately that we do have only simple search and find or
    Beth: search and kill some kind of simple quests around old facets
    Beth: like ilshenar, malas, tokuno
    Beth: I think they deserve some quests that might be major quests
    Beth: that players can understand their history and background stories
    Beth: or something like connection between Britannia
    Beth: It's just suggestion
    Mesanna: I can see that, thanks for the suggestion
    Beth: Thank you for giving me time
    Mesanna: no worries thank you
    Beth: and thank you all of your great efforts for the game
    Mesanna: next
    Mesanna: since you pulled Beth from the back
    Mesanna: Raimeus is last
    Mesanna: Chance
    EM Chance: sorry
    Mesanna: Greetings'
    Raimeus: How Ma'am.
    Raimeus: Devs
    Mesanna: Greetings
    Bleak: Hi
    Raimeus: I got one question
    Mesanna: ok
    Raimeus: THREE CHEERS for the DEVS and Mesanna.
    Raimeus: HIP HIP
    Raimeus: ok bye
    Mesanna: question?
    Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
    Fugly Casanova: just waiting for our duel
    Demigodess: when you going to do gifts that players will love like those anni horses (rember me (DarkSpawn)
    Demigodess: just had to say that Dark Part
    Demigodess: lol
    Demigodess: :p
    Demigodess: is the Dev afk now
    Mesanna: no clue we have not come up with any of the gifts right now
    Demigodess: ok
    Demigodess: :p i bet you rember me do you
    Mesanna: I am sorry do you have a question for us
    Mesanna: we are having a hard time reading your text in the journal
    Demigodess: oooo
    Demigodess: better
    Mesanna: yes what is your question
    Mesanna: sorry
    Demigodess: :p i bet you rember me do you (i am DarkSpawn)
    Demigodess: :p
    Mesanna: yes
    Demigodess: ty that all i wanted to know
    Demigodess: :p
    Mesanna: ok
    Mesanna: night again
    Demigodess: nice meeting you angin
    Mesanna: lol
    Demigodess: night lol
    Mesanna: you also
    Gauthier: hello. Thanks for takign time to meet with players like this.
    Mesanna: Our pleasure
    Mesanna: and greetings
    Gauthier: magincia bazaar plots and bidding the plot.
    Gauthier: the current owner must pay any bid (to cover those) to retain the plot.
    Gauthier: a new player bidding the plot pays it only 1 time
    Gauthier: from week to week, the owner must cover it while the bid from the outside is not paid
    Gauthier: unless they overcome the bid.
    Gauthier: this is the reason i gave up mine
    Gauthier: but i liked it
    Gauthier: it took probably 8 hours to setup
    Gauthier: with prices and organization.
    Gauthier: that was just too much to give up the 2mill bid weekly
    Gauthier: and the only way not to have the charge... is to drop the plot
    Gauthier: please examine this to be more fair.
    Mesanna: one sec
    Mesanna: trying to figure out everything
    Mesanna: you just said
    Mesanna: are you saying it was to expensive?
    Gauthier: the person put a bid on my plot for 2 mill
    Gauthier: but didn't have to pay that week after week.
    Gauthier: only put in the bid
    Gauthier: they are only charged that gold when they 'win' the plot.
    Gauthier: i had to cover that bid week after week.
    Gauthier: eventually i ran out of gold.
    Gauthier: it waas a gold sink to the current owner
    Gauthier: while someone bidding on the plot doesn't pay that aamount.
    Mesanna: we will look at it again
    Gauthier: at least not weekly.
    Gauthier: thanks .
    Gauthier: havea agreat night!
    Gauthier: u
    Mesanna: Good night
    Gauthier: do you need an email?
    Mesanna: yes please
    Gauthier: i can explain the details better maybe
    Gauthier: ok
    Gauthier: weill do
    Mesanna: good deal
    Gauthier: thanks !
    Mesanna: Thank you Napa for coming to talk to us
    Mesanna: Have a great evening everyone
    Mesanna: I look forward to getting your emails
    Mesanna: make sure you state the facet and name of house
    Mesanna: Night everyone
     
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    i agree with you about the lack of slayer books, however i dont think imbuing would be the best option. A basic slayer spellbooks with say 20 sdi would be perfect drops for bosses. Id rather see something like this revitalize old content/bosses rather than just suck up a miniscule portion of duped deed resources we have in circulation.

    now i understand the track record for the devs putting useful drops on bosses is horrendous, so my hopes arent high, but slayer spellbooks with sdi would be a perfect addition. knowing how out of touch the devs are tho, they would probably end up with slayer/lrc lol.
     
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    yes rare... but your idea would kill one way for scribes to.make decent cash.. if your ok with that .. then i have no issues. just don't make a post later on how crafters need a new way to make money
     
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    Is Mesanna saying here that the expansion publish is coming in late June, early July or is she talking about just a bigger publish than the one planned for Easter?
     
  14. MalagAste

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    How many crafters do you know who are ONLY a scribe? I'm fine with it as most crafters do everything. They can still make decent cash off them AFTER they are Imbued.
     
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    I'd say give us runic pen and ink and let us reforge spellbooks with one option being slayer. This would allow somewhat easier and more controlled crafting of slayer books in a way that kept inscription useful and was still random, just not as frustratingly so.
     
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    1) YES. About a week ago I was doing Oaks on my thrower, with the Garg Wind of Corruption. I lamented the fact that it was chaos damage, and that my damage on everything wasn't guaranteed - I'd do as little as 22 (their highest resist) to triple digits (their weakest resist), and I even said as much to my guildmates, that I wish it were possible to imbue Fey Slayer.
    2 & 3) lol.

    Another way to gain justice, eh? Interesting. Perhaps for killing monsters like Barracoon, Neira, and Brigands? But you don't gain anywhere near as much as you would for killing a player...because let's face it, if someone new to PvP decides they want to max out their Justice, the Red(s) they try to kill won't die, unless there's a group, and even then, the experience gap will make it tough. Someone new to it(or rusty) won't have the reflexes or levelheadedness needed to be able to fight someone that PvP's on a daily basis.
     
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    Not a bad Idea. I could live with that. I'm so sick of trying to make decent slayers.
     
  18. drcossack

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    Me too. I've made a few non-Scrapper's Slayers, and even that's random/annoying. It's all been lesser slayers too, like scorpion, spider, Blood Elemental, etc. I won't complain obviously, since lessers are 3x damage, but I haven't made a single super slayer - the ones I do have, I've purchased. If I want to use, say, my repond or demon slayer books? I need to move them between chars, since I only have one.
     
  19. Scribbles

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    "Mesanna: each EM has their own web site
    Mesanna: but have you visited our facebook page
    Mesanna: we are posting them there also
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: Facebook is the devil.
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: :)
    Mesanna: ok trying to give you options =)
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: stratics is easiest for me.
    Mesanna: Not posting them there sorry"

    lol, trying to give us options... but not the options that have existed for years. Trying to make us go to facebook. bleh.
     
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    ": [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: but still 15 hours?
    Mesanna: top yes
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: why?
    Mesanna: changed from 20
    : [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: purpose?
    Mesanna: You know
    : [Crystal] Mesanna says: You know
    Mesanna: we listen to you guys and you complain about scripters
    Mesanna: then we made a change from 20 hours to put some variance in it
    Mesanna: and tell you it will drop at 5 10 or 15 hours
    Mesanna: and we still get complaints"

    they still get complaints because it changed from 7 hours not 20... because of a screw up they wont admit to. still no warranted reason as to why its 15 hours instead of something more manageable.
     
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    I agree. 2/4/6 is more manageable. People can't sit & watch a house all day, unless they have a script running (but then, they're not truly watching it.) If the IDOC is in Fel, Reds will be there, and we will use AoE spells like EQ to kill the hiding players. I know, for myself anyway, that the possible loot I'd get* is secondary to the fighting that will take place, which is why I tend to ignore Tram IDOCs.

    *During my brief stay on Atl, I ran across an IDOC near Ice Dungeon. I grabbed a backpack full of 120's. I could have sold them, sure (especially the magery & resist scrolls), but I decided to use them for myself, to make characters on other servers (though suiting them up is somewhat of an issue...)
     
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    Facebook is Evil. I refuse to use it. I'll never have a Facebook account. Nothing angers me more than companies that use Facebook... Greedy crap... Yes it's "free" advertising... but at a HUGE cost. Facebook is responsible for so many ills in the world. Loss of Jobs, getting folk killed, molested, and many other things... It's easily abused and has destroyed families, ruined marriages, all sorts of things... Yet folk promote it like it's this wonderful thing. When seriously it's a tool for psychopaths to invade your life... it's a tool for those that own it to sell everything about you to anyone and everyone with ZERO regard to who's using it or what they are using it for.

    I find it disgusting and disturbing. And I refuse to use it or promote it. I can not understand why anyone would. I hear folk say all the time it's a way for friends and family to stay connected... but seriously there are better ways that are far more secure...

    Did you know that everytime you post a picture to Facebook from your phone it posts the location of where that picture was taken??? And sick people can use that to know exactly where you go. They can track your CHILD to where they play, what school they go to and much more. It's sickening. Yet folk promote it like it's the most wonderful amazing thing. If you don't believe me there was a Dateline special about it.

    And people make it easier and easier for others to get information about you that you seriously don't want them to have.
     
  23. MalagAste

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    Actually the turn in sorcerers suit and such isn't really that horrible as a "cheap" suit. And if you have old gifty crap on other shards it doesn't take that much to get it.
     
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    O_O

    I keep mine open due to laziness, but you're right. Outside of the "Happy Birthday" posts (which I often "forget" to do, unless I like the person/feel like it) or the rare "How are you" type messages, I very rarely do anything on it. If I do post any pics, I do so on Instagram; IG probably isn't much better, but I post maybe 2-3 pics a year on that. I don't have my location set on it, but all of my pics are taken at the local ballpark (Yankees minor league affiliate, their AAA team.)

    That aside, all of the people I knew in HS & college? I don't talk to them at all on there. There's no reason for me to have it. I did run into one of my friends from college @ the aforementioned stadium last summer, but other than that, I don't see any of them, nor do I care enough to make the effort, since it's been so long since we last talked.

    Yeah, I've only ever played on LS until recently (inbetween my multi-year UO "vacations.") All my stuff is on there, although I am training a char on Catskills with a Sorc Suit @Flutter gave me. Once I build a pvp-worthy suit I'll try to find someone with a shard shield...then I get to do it again for the other East Coast shards.
     
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    By December of this year I ought to have a Shard Shield to every shard. Excepting of course Siege and Mugen as I see little point in getting them.

    Thats of course "if" I'm still playing UO and "if" UO is still around...
     
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    Tin foil suits you well...la
     
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    It's still the same producer that can't get the EMs to set town criers in advance, with date and time like it should be. Leave alone EM schedule on patch notes. What do people expect?
     
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    This makes me giggle. Do you really believe you are living some sort of "off the radar" kind of life? Did you know that there's an app on my phone that lets me know exactly where my friends are in case I want to meet up with them someplace? *gasp* I KNOW! Did you know there's something called foursquare where you can PUBLICLY check in places like gas stations and supermarkets and restaurants and it notifies your friends, family, and stalkers to where you are?? *gasp* I KNOW!! Did you know that I have a friend who uses a coupon app online to get coupons for the things she shops most often for? THEY KNOW WHAT SHE EATS!!! *gasp* I KNOW!
    I am just going to hide here under this rock and hypocritically post on a public forum because no one in the whole wide world can find out who I am THAT way. I am also not having magazines sent to my house or filling out any applications that require my address. Oh and I block all communications and also never use checks to pay for anything because it requires I have a name and address. I also wear disguises every time I go out of the house so no one knows what I really look like. It is much better this way. I have to go now, it's time for my tin foil hat fitting.
     
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    One of the many reasons I will never have an iPhone/smartphone...the pictures I take on my cheap pay as you go phone go onto a mini sd card which then comes out of my phone and into my computer..I HAVE FOILED THE SYSTEM! :)

    I do agree, however, that there are still many people in this world that refuse to use facebook, so for them to limit the EM's that way is just stupid in my opinion.
     
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    Hahaha what? What scamming reason? Yeah jeez, think of all the scams that would go down if you could have "warrior" in your guild title!

    Do these people know what UO is?
     
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    That was my question, and I wanted to inquire further just what kind of scams were possible because of a guild title but I didn't want to argue or waste more time with it. It seems like something that goes 'back to the beginning' could possibly be re-evaluated a decade later, since guild titles appear differently than they did before AoS. Ah well. Not really a big deal.

    As for the Facebook thing, I also do not think that's a big deal. Like she said, it's an additional option. The new website is supposed to feature a calender that will show EM events, unless I am misunderstanding what was said, so hopefully that will work well and us non-facebookers can just use the UO website.
     
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    The scam thing she was talking about was probably the old scam from before trammel existed where someone would pretend to be a blacksmith, get someone to give them their armor to repair, and the scammer would steal it. It doesn't really have any purpose to keep people from using the titles in modern times though.
     
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    Its not that I am afraid of being tracked or counted. I REFUSE to use Facebook as and in protest to what they do and I stand by my convictions. I despise them for the lives they have destroyed and in my opinion the loss of lives caused by the lack of security and thei r overly open nature. And many other reasons. By using Facebook you support them and what they do with not only your information but the information of innocent children who have been exploited through Facebook and other seemingly harmless social networking sites.


    By using them you support them.... and the more folk do the more they will continue to do it.
     
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    "They" do not "destroy" lives Malagaste, people destroy each other. Just like guns don't kill people. You said it ends marriages? Really? It causes people who normally wouldn't be adulterous to cheat? C'mon. I hope you realize how all of this sounds. There is no maliciousness in an inanimate object, and Intellectual property is an "object". If you want to know something like a phone number for an address, all you have to do is go to the town hall and request the information. A friend of mine who sells Avon uses this technique along with social media and it increases business. It's not a bad thing. No children are being exploited because of social media. People who are sickos existed long before the computer was invented.
     
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    Personally, I think Facebook has reduced the danger to children in some ways. For example, the creepy people can just look at the kids Facebook page instead of having to actually find them in person to see them. Although stalking kids on Facebook is still very creepy, the child is not in any danger because of it unless the person then wants to find them in person. If Facebook did not exist, the creepy person would be forced to find the child in real life to see them, which would then greatly increase the chances of something dangerous happening because the creepy person is so close to them and may not be able to control themselves.

    As for Facebook destroying marriages....no it doesn't.....people have always cheated in relationships since the beginning of time, the only difference is Facebook causes them to get caught a couple years sooner. They would still be cheating in their relationship, and they would still get caught eventually whether Facebook was involved or not.

    Are the companies who make medicine "evil" because people sometimes use that medicine to overdose and kill themselves? No, of course not.

    Is Facebook evil because some people use it to harm others, no of course not. Just like every other company on the planet, they are providing a service. If people abuse that service or use it in a way that it was not intended to be used it doesn't mean the company should be blamed for what the person who abused their product did.

    If people post too much about their lives on Facebook, that's their own fault. It's pretty simple, if someone doesn't want their information and pictures to be looked at....then just don't post the information or pictures. Facebook doesn't force people to post their information online for everyone to see....the people do that voluntarily.
     
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    You tell yourself whatever you want. IMO Facebook is Evil and I will NOT support it.

    Just like I don't own Guns, Do drugs and all that other crap. But I do KNOW that predators USE Facebook and other social media to find and lure their victims. Facebook makes it EASY for them.

    I will not support Facebook.
     
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    First of all Facebook has an age requirement to use. If you are a decent parent you are monitoring your children's use of the internet. There are far better ways for predators to "lure their victims". If you have a good parenting Facebook is a non-issue. There are privacy settings. No one can see anything you don't want them to see. My entire family uses facebook, it is a good way to keep in touch we are not drug addict satan worshipers.

    Facebook is not evil. Facebook does not have emotions, it is not a being with intents. Facebook is not alive. It cannot be good or evil. It is a communication device just like the telephone. To imply that it is a living entity with emotions, feelings, intents, or ideas is more than a little bit worrisome. Facebook isn't any more alive than the video game this forum is about. It is not "the devil" or "evil". Perhaps you shouldn't give it so much of your emotions.
     
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    By my use of "Facebook" I'm talking about the Company and those who run it.... PEOPLE... People who created it... People who run it. I'm not referring to the webpage... as that is a bunch of code... code which is NOT as secure as you think it is.

    Facebook is something created to make money... to gather information about you and sell it. To target market crap to you... taking away jobs from folk ... And as far as I'm concerned those that run Facebook have little to NO regard for the safety of anyone using it.

    And while you think that it is "safe" and the Privacy settings are there to protect you or kids... those privacy settings have been circumvented millions of times. And they were only put into place AFTER a great amount of damage was already done and lives were LOST.

    You can sit there and tell yourself whatever lies you want to feel comfortable about supporting Facebook... but I and MANY others will continue to "speak out" against Facebook ... and I will continue to stand by my conviction against it's use.

    My family knows where I am if they want to "keep in touch" with me they don't need some stupid website. I can keep up on the lives of my family without it.
     
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    Whether you're a Facebook or Twitter fan or can't stand either, you might want to check out David Egger's satirical work of fiction, The Circle.
     
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    People said the same thing about television in the 1940s... trying to sell you things RIGHT IN YOUR OWN HOME!
     
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    OMG! Am I being watched through my TVs??? ROFL
     
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    There are reds outside my castle, I think they found out where I live from Facebook! :eyes: :p
     
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    Bobby (The Waterboy) Bouchet's mom says: "Facebook is the Devil!"
     
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    Facebook isnt evil, the notion that it is is absurd. It exists as an online social networking tool and is therefore incapable of 'being' evil.

    Why the hell any sane adult would want a facebook account however is beyond me. What the fascination of living your life out in such a public way is, or for that matter following how other people live out their lives, escapes me. I always laugh when people tell me they have "400 friends" on facebook. No you dont. If you never saw 90% of them ever again then you probably wouldnt give it a second though. They arent friends.

    Facebook may not be evil, but is a ridiculous thing for any well adjusted adult to want to be a part of. Feel free to tell me how Im wrong if youve got time once youve finished posting a picture of the salad you had for dinner for your 400 friends to see. Oh the fun never ends on facebook.
     
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    for everyone making fun of data collection, its a real problem. yes the notion that "facebook will kill you" is absurd, but its a real risk and decision for everyone to make how much they value personal privacy.

    this is very real
    https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

    http://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

    yes i have a facebook page tho i rarely use it, no i dont wear a tin foil hat. stuff like this should scare any reasonable person just a little.
     
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    LOL at all the trolling a**holes mocking someone for their beliefs.
     
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    Flutter hacked me with Facebook and stole my selfie!!!:eyes:
     
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