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New Art/New Client??

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Violence, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. Violence

    Violence Lore Keeper
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    So when's this artistic touch going to be felt..? I remember Cal telling us they would improve how EC looks. I could be wrong.

    And what's all this about a new Client around 2012?.. :love:
     
  2. Woodsman

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    It's in the next publish or two according to Cal, after Publish 71, so either end of this month or next.

    It's for Asia, and it's a few sentences from some old taglines and press releases, and nothing has been done in two years, so don't get your hopes up. It won't be compatible with our UO anyways, even if there is an English translation.
     
  3. Snakeman

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    Probably when the Spring/Summer/Fall Cleanup happens. (Falls only a lil over 5 wks away, and no cleanup as yet :()
     
  4. MalagAste

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    I don't hold my breath with anything they say anymore. Until it's live in a patch note it is open to either being done or never seeing the light of day.
     
  5. Violence

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    :/ Oh well..
     
  6. Woodsman

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    The next big publish is supposed to have the clean up, anniversary and vet reward items, and the first graphics update, unless they break out any of those into their own publish.

    This was said by Cal about a month ago, and they've mentioned some specifics so I think it's not too far off. Hopefully the vet and anniversary items haven't set the other two back.

    Actually all four of those things were mentioned a few months back as being worked on, so they shouldn't be too late, heh.
     
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    Geesh give them time.... if you add up all the things on the menu they want done there isnt enought of a Dev team to do it all... If you havent noticed we have not had many Dev in here of late. This would bode that the work is stock piling and they are hard at work and not daudling around.

    Yes I would love a preview of the spring list... who wouldnt!
    Yes I would love to know when ... again who wouldnt
    Yes I would love to know what Vet rewards and anniversary item they got cooking for us....who wouldnt want that....

    Patients is a virtue.... be paitent..
     
  8. lucitus

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    Hehe and i like to see a small screenshot of the new art update... who wouldnt!
     
  9. Dakkon Blackblade

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    I second this, I would also love to see the new client art update, I hope it is the return of KR art, although not everything was perfect in KR I loved the bulk of it.

    I would hope they would redo dragons however as they just looked pitiful in KR, in any event if the graphics are KR or better I will instantly resub, can't speak for anyone else but it would get me back in the game.
     
  10. Woodsman

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    Surely they are to a point where they could give us a peek at the graphics.
     
  11. Pinco

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    Instead of a new client I'd like this few things to be happy with EC:

    Fix the crash bug
    Fix the gargoyle robe paperdoll art (actually is a rag).
    Make readable the current zoom value
     
  12. Viquire

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    disappointing.
     
  13. Ender

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    They really should have had at least the option to use the KR style graphics. I much prefer the terrain and buildings and such in KR, with their higher resolution textures.
     
  14. Pinco

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    well, I don't like the KR graphic, but yes we should be able to use the KR texture since the game still carry this files around without purposes ....
     
  15. Dermott of LS

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    All they had to do would have been to flip the default from KR to Legacy graphics, then downgrade the Legacy setting the way that they did in the EC and retain the higher resolution quality for the KR artwork. At least that would have been my preferred method as things stand right now (this of course may change once we see the updates).
     
  16. Woodsman

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    From what I can tel, most/all of the KR graphics are still in the EC.
     
  17. Ender

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    In the files, yeah. I just casually flipped through the files in UO Reader for maybe half an hour the other day, I found tons of em. At least add a toggle, can't be that hard.
     
  18. lucitus

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    Ohh yeah you are right i like to see both a KR art option and the crash bug fixed.

    But no1 is the crash bug! I write the date down the crash bug is fixed ;).

    Like:

    -- LucisInterface.ReloadBlackareaFix() Supreem fixed it! 07.06.2010

    To the graphics:

    It is not only the high res texture which is the problem, the rendering has changed since KR, the KR renderer was much better and also at near zoomlevel the character and pets were sharp, now we got pixelation. I remember a version of KR a bit after release it was stable, but not as performend as now, Ver. 2.45.4.4 i think, maybe they should look as that version again and begin at. ;)
     
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    http://vboards.stratics.com/1996071-post61.html
    You heard it here from Woodsman first that EA devs have said several times its just a toggle, even though they havent said this. LMAO

    ..So I guess it is just a toggle for existing graphics, which is epic fail especially given all the hype. 4 years ago KR art was like as if interns with astigmatism did it, and just like 4 years ago its not going to bring in any new players.

    Anyway cant wait till UO 3D is released in 2012.
     
  20. Dermott of LS

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    This has already been covered ad nauseum in the other thread, don't derail this one as well.
     
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    The OP topic is 'new art/new client'. Start a new thread instead called 'Only EC Fanbois post here' and post there.

    The other 'art update' option not considered, is that NetDragon is sending EA their 3D high res art, which EA will import into UO. However, I think it is just a toggle as Woodsman has posted several times that EA have stated several times this it what it will be, even though they havent.
     
  22. Woodsman

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    It might be harder than you think to add a toggle, since some of the KR graphics are missing or there were never KR versions of graphics from things added since KR. I was looking through UOGuide and a lot of stuff has been added just with Stygian Abyss. We maybe talking about two rendering engines, but I don't know. If that was the case, then it would make the EC even more complex for the devs, which would be bad. Might has well have three clients, EC, KR, and CC :lol:
     
  23. Woodsman

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    Oh hey, 4 days ago I publicly admitted I was wrong in saying that, and you clearly saw that I publicly admitted I was wrong. Why you are dragging up something I admitted I was wrong about 4 days ago is beyond me, but I can assure you, I wasn't one of the people who reported you to the mods/admins, so your grudge with me is misplaced.

    Oh, and I never said anything about the devs just making a "toggle" in the EC for the KR graphics - that was somebody else in this thread. I don't even think it's possible, because I don't think all of the KR graphics are still around, and because there has been a lot of stuff added since KR was dropped that was definitely not done in the KR style. I just pointed out that there are KR graphics in the UOP files, and others in this thread have verified it, which you can too if you download the UOReader in the EC forum and look at the UOP files. I was thinking the devs could use them, but I was wrong and admitted it.

    As for NetDragon, there is only a sentence or two from financial report taglines and press releases. Besides, cartoony looking graphics are NetDragon's style, as evidenced from the Dungeon Keeper video in your sig and NetDragon's games pages and I doubt many UO players want to play cartoony looking MMOs, otherwise we'd be playing Warcraft nonstop.
     
  24. Cloak&Dagger

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    2 mil, in real life says UO3d brings in 0 players if they don't have any form of advertisement for it. No posting anywhere on any website, just a random .91.com website. Just saying, your ideology is just soooo wonderful. I accept your enthusiasm over something that is currently not happening, but really your out right attack on people is just childish.

    This one just has to be a joke. Do you have any idea what UO's server code is written in? The EC barely runs because of how the server is written and you are saying that unreleased information is being passed to EA in order for them to use it in the EC? Come on now, are you really that delusional?

    What was the last game that either EA or Netdragon released that didn't have info on it a year before hand? What game that didn't have info on it 2 years before hand? Just wondering. (Netdragon sends me damn near weekly newsletters, with all the advertisements I get from them I would expect one for an upcoming UO if it was even being thought about.)
     
  25. Violence

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    HD, this DK MMO looks like WOW.. Waaaaay too much like it. If they use the same Engine for UO at some point.. I sure hope they take a different direction with it. If that's possible.
     
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    It depends on the lead artist. But DKO it is professional looking and good enough quality to interest new players as opposed to most people taking a look and laughing. This is where we are at with KR/EC graphics, and most people here know it. Imo if all that happens re the "new art", is just a toggle for some benched KR art, it is like EA has waved the white flag of surrender for this UO.
     
  27. Dakkon Blackblade

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    I agree as I cannot stand the cartoon style of artwork, I would gladly take KR over wow looking graphics anyday of the week. It seems more likely than a new 3D client that has no solid evidence behind it, at least not for an NA release.
     
  28. Violence

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    It can have the same quality as DKO but in a different style.. I was only saying it should NOT copy WOW so blatantly if we ever do get that Engine. I agree that KR/EC has nothing on any other MMO out there including 1 or 2 FaceBook Apps, sadly... And I'd still take EC UO over WOWCopy UO...

    ...By the way I do see us getting nothing but a KR/EC Toggle just as you fear.. Not to mention they surrendered long ago or we would have a decent looking UO by now. Unless Cal comes out and says they actually hired 10 people like Saphireena to work on Art I can't really expect any serious improvements.

    Has any of you got an IPhone4? Ever played Infinity Blade on it?... That's how UO should look. IMHO..
     
  29. Dakkon Blackblade

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    I don't know that I would want to see UO go completely 3D to be honest, I really liked KR graphics, even though they are far from cutting edge. Although optimally speaking for me the game would look (not play) something like Diablo 3 but with less bright colors everywhere.

    But given what the dev team has to work with I would say it's hard to expect anything more than rehashing the KR files, perhaps with some touch ups? We will just have to wait and see I suppose.
     
  30. Woodsman

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    NetDragon specializes in that cartoony style though - it's huge in parts of Asia.
    The EC is running on the same engine as Elder Scrolls Morrowind and Oblivion, Fallout 3, Rift, and a lot of other great looking games, so the engine is not the issue, it's the graphics and the server. They did replace all of the servers at the start of the year, but that upgrading between blades is not that difficult.

    One problem is that UO can't make the transition to 3D without a major overhaul of the server software and without ditching the CC.
    Yes, I've played it and another game being developed on that same engine a lot. Very nice.
     
  31. Woodsman

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    I'm just curious, and maybe it deserves another thread, but what did anybody interested in this topic think of the graphics UO2 at the time?

    It's kind of sad to think that much of UO2 ended up in WoW, but not surprising, but it's still weird to look back at just how far ahead UO2 would have been against the competition at the time.
     
  32. Violence

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    True, WOW got most of UXO. UO2... No. Even back then it sucked IMHO even though I was excited about all the new stuffz. But that OTHER UO3D... Their.. Uhmm What was it.. 3rd or 4th attempt?.. It was recently brought up, so that; It ROCKED for when it was supposed to come out! It would do the job now too. I can't find the Link... :sad3:
     
  33. Sevin0oo0

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    if you mean for "UO", I agree
    Someone mentioned that before and a list was pulled proving that there are Many Dev's there, working, and occasionally even responding in posts.

    But... My understanding is that there are 15 MMO's at that location, so where's that leave UO?