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New Cliloc's [Spoiler]

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Nexus, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. Nexus

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    Hopefully this will give some insight on to some of the unknown things for the upcoming holidays. This I don't believe is a complete list but it's a good many of them.

    Code:
    *********************
    ID: 1094746
    
    Morph Earrings
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    ID: 1094747
    
    You may now equip Elven items.
    *********************
    ID: 1094748
    
    You may no longer equip Elven items.
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    ID: 1094749
    
    The Elven items you were wearing have been unequipped.
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    ID: 1094750
    
    You cannot use the Morph Earrings without the Mondain's Legacy expansion.
    *********************
    ID: 1094751
    
    You cannot make an etching of this!
    *********************
    ID: 1094752
    
    Which wall carving do you wish to make an etching of?
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    ID: 1094753
    
    You already have a copy of this.
    *********************
    ID: 1094754
    
    You complete the last etching with your final parchment.
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    ID: 1094755
    
    You combine the etchings into a Cursed Tome.
    *********************
    ID: 1094756
    
    Powder of Perseverance
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    ID: 1094757
    
    Cursed Tome
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    ID: 1094758
    
    Which pool of blood do you wish to plunge this Tome into?
    *********************
    ID: 1094759
    
    A message written in scarlet letters bleeds out of the Tome's cover.
    *********************
    ID: 1094760
    
    You have used up your Powder of Perseverance.
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    ID: 1094761
    
    This item is already in perfect condition.
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    ID: 1094762
    
    Speak Sarcophagidae in the central room.
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    ID: 1094763
    
    Cursed Skull
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    ID: 1094764
    
    Greater Stamina Potion
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    ID: 1094765
    
    Sicarii
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    ID: 1094766
    
    Skeletal Lich
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    ID: 1094767
    
    a drone
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    ID: 1094768
    
    a death spider
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    ID: 1094769
    
    Faction Silver
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    ID: 1094770
    
    The Vault
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    ID: 1094771
    
    * Sicarii summons her children to her aid! *
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    ID: 1094773
    
    a spider egg sac
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    ID: 1094774
    
    * You demolish the spider egg sac! *
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    ID: 1094775
    
    the remains of a spider egg sac
    *********************
    ID: 1094776
    
    Gossamer
    *********************
    ID: 1094777
    
    Venom Sac
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    ID: 1094778
    
    Which skull totem do you wish to pour this on?
    *********************
    ID: 1094779
    
    You pour the venom on the totem, damaging it further.
    *********************
    ID: 1094780
    
    With this last drop, you successfully destroy the skull totem.
    *********************
    ID: 1094781
    
    rubble from a skull totem
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    ID: 1094782
    
    a spinneret
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    ID: 1094783
    
    a spiderweb deed 
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    ID: 1094784
    
    Spiderweb South
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    ID: 1094785
    
    Spiderweb East
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    ID: 1094787
    
    You create a web, destroying your spinneret in the process.
    *********************
    ID: 1094789
    
    Cursed Parchment
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    ID: 1094790
    
    You make an etching of the wall carving and place it in your backpack.
    *********************
    ID: 1094791
    
    You are unable to mount a paralyzed pet.
    *********************
    ID: 1094792
    
    a wall carving etching
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    ID: 1094796
    
    You may only do this with a large blood pool in Khaldun.
    *********************
    ID: 1094797
    
    A message written in scarlet letters bleeds out of the Tome's cover.
    *********************
    ID: 1094798
    
    Speak "sarcophagidae" in the central room of the Tomb.
    *********************
    ID: 1094799
    
    Conjurer's Grimoire
    *********************
    ID: 1094800
    
    Conjurer's Trinket
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    ID: 1094801
    
    The cow nimbly escapes your attempts to milk it.
    *********************
    ID: 1094802
    
    Sicarii's children spring forth from their cocoon and attack you!!!
    *********************
    ID: 1094803
    
    This faction reward is bound to you, and cannot be traded.
    *********************
    ID: 1094804
    
    You are not high enough in rank to equip this item.
    *********************
    ID: 1094805
    
    Faction Rank: ~1_VALUE~
    *********************
    ID: 1094806
    
    A half burnt book by the ruined bookshelf attracts your attention.
    *********************
    ID: 1094807
    
    My Journal
    *********************
    ID: 1094808
    
    ... thank you
    *********************
    ID: 1094809
    
    I'm coming, dearest
    *********************
    ID: 1094810
    
    freedom
    *********************
    ID: 1094811
    
    free...
    *********************
    ID: 1094812
    
    farewell
    *********************
    ID: 1094813
    
    goodbye...
    *********************
    ID: 1094814
    
    You have my thanks
    *********************
    ID: 1094815
    
    ... till we meet again
    *********************
    ID: 1094816
    
    I thank thee
    *********************
    ID: 1094817
    
    It is done.
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    ID: 1094818
    
    You begin speaking with the nearby spirit.
    *********************
    ID: 1094819
    
    Your communication with the netherworld has been interrupted.
    *********************
    ID: 1094820
    
    The restless soul has been released from its bonds!
    *********************
    ID: 1094825
    
    You have slain an innocent...
    *********************
    ID: 1094826
    
    A thief has taken an item from you!
    *********************
    ID: 1094827
    
    Get away!
    *********************
    ID: 1094828
    
    Arrghhh!
    *********************
    ID: 1094829
    
    Waagghhh!
    *********************
    ID: 1094830
    
    No! Nooo!!!
    *********************
    ID: 1094831
    
    Stay back!
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    ID: 1094832
    
    Stay back I say!!
    *********************
    ID: 1094833
    
    *screams incohorently*
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    ID: 1094834
    
    *cries out in terror*
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    ID: 1094835
    
    *jumps back*
    *********************
    ID: 1094836
    
    Don't come any closer!
    *********************
    ID: 1094837
    
    a journal
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    ID: 1094838
    
    A Skull Totem
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    ID: 1094840
    
    Do not address me unless you have a valid reason to do so, Mortal!
    *********************
    ID: 1094842
    
    Candy Corn
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    ID: 1094843
    
    A Giant Pumpkin Muffin
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    ID: 1094844
    
    Pixie Stick
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    ID: 1094874
    
    We were so full of pride...
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    ID: 1094875
    
    Look at what we've done...
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    ID: 1094877
    
    Oh Magincia, how strong you were.  Once the jewel of Sosaria...  Now I need the help of others to rebuild and the souls here need respite.  If you can speak to the Restless Souls, you may be able to help them move onward.  Bring me three of the Threads of Life that they should leave behind, and I will give you something to remember what we had forgotten.
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    ID: 1094878
    
    If you can find a restless spirit and use Spirit Speak, that may give you the ability to talk to them.
    *********************
    ID: 1094879
    
    Ah, thank you!  With this we can begin to bring life back to this land.  Take this - may it be a reminder to you that life is precious.
    *********************
    ID: 1094880
    
    The Forsaken Souls have become listless, desperate to find a way home.  You will need to use magic to convince them that they need to go on.  Please bring me five Threads of Thought that they leave behind.  While I do not have much, I can give what I have in return for your help.
    *********************
    ID: 1094881
    
    A Necromancer with Exorcism should be able to send the forsaken souls to the beyond.
    *********************
    ID: 1094882
    
    Ah!  With this we can hopefully undo the actions that have destroyed our precious city.  Please take this as a reminder of the consequences of action without thought.
    *********************
    ID: 1094883
    
    I wish to undo the horrors that have beset Magincia but I need help.   There are some souls whose burden is so great that they have become corrupted and bound by the Threads of Fate.  Go to Magincia and cut the Corrupted Souls free by any means necessary, and gather the threads that they leave behind.
    *********************
    ID: 1094884
    
    Fight the corrupted souls with sword and spell, and gather the Threads of Fate they leave behind!
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    ID: 1094885
    
    Thank you so very much.  All we can offer is the rubble that was left behind in the wake of Magicinia’s destruction.  Cherish life and be thoughtful in your actions, lest you become humbled by the threads of fate that you weave upon yourself.
    *********************
    ID: 1094886
    
    Threads of Life
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    ID: 1094887
    
    Threads of Thought
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    ID: 1094888
    
    Threads of Fate
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    ID: 1094889
    
    Bare Tree (rubble)
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    ID: 1094890
    
    Broken Furniture (rubble)
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    ID: 1094891
    
    Piece of Building (rubble)
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    ID: 1094892
    
    Fang of Ractus [Replica]
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    ID: 1094893
    
    The Most Knowledge Person [Replica]
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    ID: 1094894
    
    Legendary Detective of the Royal Guard [Replica]
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    ID: 1094895
    
    Elder Detective of the Royal Guard [Replica]
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    ID: 1094896
    
    Mythical Detective of the Royal Guard [Replica]
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    ID: 1094901
    
    Embroidered Oak Leaf Cloak [Replica]
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    ID: 1094902
    
    Gauntlets of Anger [Replica]
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    ID: 1094903
    
    Crown of Tal'Keesh [Replica]
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    ID: 1094909
    
    Brave Knight of The Britannia [Replica]
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    ID: 1094910
    
    Lieutenant of the Britannian Royal Guard [Replica]
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    ID: 1094911
    
    Captain John's Hat [Replica]
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    ID: 1094912
    
    Tattered Ancient Mummy Wrapping [Replica]
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    ID: 1094913
    
    A Necromancer Shroud [Replica]
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    ID: 1094914
    
    Shroud of Deceit [Replica]
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    ID: 1094915
    
    Calm [Replica]
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    ID: 1094916
    
    Oblivion's Needle [Replica]
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    ID: 1094917
    
    Gladiator's Collar [Replica]
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    ID: 1094918
    
    Royal Guard Survival Knife [Replica]
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    ID: 1094921
    
    Warzone bonus: ~1_VALUE~ kill points
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    ID: 1094922
    
    Thine heroic efforts in capturing the sigil has yielded ~1_POINTS~ kill points and ~2_SILVER~ silver.
    *********************
    ID: 1094923
    
    Items cannot be traded directly between vendors.
    *********************
    ID: 1094924
    
    Orc Chieftain Helm [Replica]
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    ID: 1094925
    
    Wind Spirit [Replica]
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    ID: 1094926
    
    Good Samaritan of Britannia [Replica]
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    ID: 1094927
    
    Djinni's Ring [Replica]
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    ID: 1094928
    
    Quell [Replica]
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    ID: 1094929
    
    Pacify [Replica]
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    ID: 1094930
    
    Subdue [Replica]
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    ID: 1094931
    
    The Robe of Britannia "Ari" [Replica]
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    ID: 1094932
    
    Red Death
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    ID: 1094933
    
    Using a Scroll of Transcendence for a given skill will permanently increase your current level in that skill by the amount of points displayed on the scroll. As you may not gain skills beyond your maximum skill cap, any excess points will be lost.
    *********************
    ID: 1094934
    
    Scroll of Transcendence
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    ID: 1094935
    
    You cannot increase this skill at this time. The skill may be locked or set to lower in your skill menu. If you are at your total skill cap, you must use a Powerscroll to increase your current skill cap. 
    *********************
    ID: 1094936
    
    You have received a Scroll of Transcendence!
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    ID: 1094937
    
    Seed of Life
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    ID: 1094938
    
    Mana Draught
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    ID: 1094939
    
    Gem of Salvation
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    ID: 1094940
    
    Balm of Strength
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    ID: 1094941
    
    Balm of Wisdom
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    ID: 1094942
    
    Balm of Swiftness
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    ID: 1094943
    
    Balm of Protection
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    ID: 1094944
    
    Stone Skin Lotion
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    ID: 1094945
    
    Life Shield Lotion
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    ID: 1094947
    
    You successfully steal a special item from the creature!
    *********************
    ID: 1094948
    
    That creature has already been stolen from.  There is nothing left to steal.
    *********************
    ID: 1095124
    
    A stolen item has been returned to you!
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    ID: 1095125
    
    Use a Gem of Salvation
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    ID: 1095126
    
    The bitter seed instantly restores some of your health!
    *********************
    ID: 1095127
    
    You are already at full mana!
    *********************
    ID: 1095128
    
    The sour draught instantly restores some of your mana!
    *********************
    ID: 1095129
    
    It is possible for you to be resurrected now using the power of your Gem of Salvation. Do you wish to try?
    *********************
    ID: 1095130
    
    Your spirit lacks cohesion. You must wait ~1_seconds~ seconds before invoking the power of a Gem of Salvation.
    *********************
    ID: 1095131
    
    Your spirit lacks cohesion. You must wait ~1_minutes~ minutes before invoking the power of a Gem of Salvation.
    *********************
    ID: 1095132
    
    The gem infuses you with its power and is destroyed in the process.
    *********************
    ID: 1095133
    
    You are already under the effect of a balm or lotion.
    *********************
    ID: 1095134
    
    The effects of the balm or lotion have worn off.
    *********************
    ID: 1095136
    
    You apply the balm and suddenly feel stronger!
    *********************
    ID: 1095137
    
    You apply the balm and suddenly feel wiser!
    *********************
    ID: 1095138
    
    You apply the balm and suddenly feel more agile!
    *********************
    ID: 1095143
    
    You apply the ointment and suddenly feel less vulnerable!
    *********************
    ID: 1095144
    
    You are already under the effects of a balm or lotion. Applying this ointment will replace the effects of the one currently active. Do you wish to proceed?
    I found the [replica] items of interest though....
     
  2. skimming through.. looks like faction and quest related material

    looking at the replicas. we may or may not be getting legitiment duped rares for common players !
     
  3. Flutter

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    Are you guys serious?
    We are going to counter duping by making "replicas" of things?
    ...
     
  4. As a collector mind you, when I see 100s of an item that had 3 originals, why bother arguing against it? I see at least 10 people on my shard on a daily basis with an "ari" shroud. I see plenty of tal'keesh shrouds. If they're duped with MODS that give only the rich people an advantage over lessor pvpers, why not? It was there decision to invest in duped rares and it was some collectors idea to dupe the rare. Punishment for both cases :lick:

    I do sympathyze for the owners of the originals of the items listed but at least theres wont say [replica].

    EDIT:

    Lets also note that these are patch notes. We do not know what the replica stands for. It may be a line of code to trace and delete [replicas] aka dupe. We don't know so don't speculate until we get further notice.
     
  5. Godiva_DF

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    Reads like the contents of one of our prominent dupers castle, 2 years ago...
     
  6. Chaosy

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    Being an owner of a Lt. Sash before they were known to be duped, I'm surprisingly content to see at least EA acknowledging that dupers have caused the UO economy to flop over dead. Hopefully they'll implement this in a way that doesn't affect the people who paid out the wazoo for these items too much. I'd like to know that I at least paid for something somewhat worthwhile.
     
  7. Nexus

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    Cliloc's are only for localization. By doing several Cliloc files in different languages they don't have to go through the hassle of coding a version of the item/creature/quest text/ect. for each language region. They simply call the Cliloc using the ID from inside the code for the item/creature/quest text/ect. and the client pulls it from the file for the language it's using. All this information is client side just like art animations and maps. Each Language will use the same ID number for the same Cliloc so that it translates without any issues.
     
  8. Kiminality

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    Hello hello?
     
  9. Ender

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    Wow, great move @ the replicas. As long as they all have the same mods as the originals, just with the [replica] tag on, that's perfect. Doesn't even devalue the originals for true rare collectors.
     
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    Oh nice, a way for me to finally finish off taming?
     
  11. RaDian FlGith

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    Yeah... considering I've got the original Subdue from the Great Lakes event, and it's been in my possession the whole time, not been passed around to be duped, et cetera, seeing a "Subdue [Replica]" really, REALLY sort of makes me sick to my stomach.

    This is just more proof that the Dev Team currently in charge of UO is clueless, and further proof that I'm spending way too much per month on Ultima Online.

    Perhaps it's time for me to consider the exit route too.

    EDIT - And I know some people will argue "EM items should never have existed in the first place." But see, to me, the item isn't so much about its properties, it's about its uniqueness, and the fact that it is attached to a very specific event and time in UO's history.

    If the best that the UO team can come up with to combat duping is to destroy the intrinsic value of everything that was every part of any aspect of UO's history by providing "replicas" of them, well, that's really unacceptable to me. It's worse than offering limited-time only pre-order items that they turn around and sell later.

    I really cannot convey how completely disappointed I am with the DevTeam right now, but I'll say it's a disappointment at a level that makes my disappointment with "It's not a mirror" seem downright supportive.
     
  12. not familiar with programming :p more of a network person :lick:
     
  13. Hunter Moon

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    Ahhhh... as the owner of a REAL Oak shroud (handed to me by the GM at the event), this isn't the best thing ever, but at least it does say replica. That said however, I don't like giving into dupers by making the stuff common though. It says to the players... instead of fixing the problem, we will just flood the market with cheap knock offs so the dupers can't make as much off of them (even though they already made billions off them during the years and years this has been going on already). First off it is the sloppy and easy way out and secondly, it doesn't address even a tiny part of the items that are duped or the fact that gold is often duped. I can go to a certain vendor in Luna and over and over find marble tables, wall blood, tall statues and so on on the vendor. One will sell, few weeks later another is on there. Yea I am believing that this vendor who ALWAYS has at least 4 75 to 100 mill gold items on it at all times and has the same items on it again and again and again actually has access to that many real items?? NOT HAPPENING!

    I would prefer a true way for fixing duping be explored instead of trying to fix this with gum and ducktape.

    Hunter Moon [HOT] Atlantic
     
  14. Petra Fyde

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    is there any evidence to suggest that these 'replicas' are actually copies of valuable items and not copies of the etchings on the wall of Khaldun, and therefore just a part of the quest? Similar to the pictures we 'draw' as part of the older quest that gives obsidian?
     
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    The original rares are not devalued... At all. Any true rares collector that truly wants the item would get the one without the [replica] tag.
     
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    Ah we can hope!!! That would be a nice idea and I like the earlier one about this maybe being a way to delete dupes.

    Hunter Moon [HOT] Atlantic
     
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    As long as these "replicas" don't have the same appearance as the originals (the blue/yellow hue), then they MIGHT not devalue them for the "true rare collectors," but regardless, they will devalue them for the true historians that think handing out replicas for the sake of handing out replicas is ludicrous.
     
  18. Fink

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    The cow nimbly escapes your attempts to milk it.

    No means NO! :scholar:
     
  19. Nexus

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    I only hope the Transcendence scrolls will the Prize for GM Beggers for the Trick or Treating...To many floating around is a Bad Bad Bad thing.....and Beggers surely need something.
     
  20. Xel Naga

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    People will just script it anyway, there will be too many floating around regardless.
     
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    The more I read the more I realize how the next several months of my life are going to be spent. I hope we have that much time with all this new stuff anyways. And to think spring cleaning actually saved me a few secures. Now I'll have to upgrade my castle holding account to make room for it all!
     
  22. Hunter Moon

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    LOL I know what you mean.. they cleaned us out so we could go right back and collect two tons more!

    Hunter Moon [HOT] Atlantic
     
  23. Blood dipping is always a good thing at Halloween.

    There are some interesting threads in there. I am really getting excited about these quests.


    :spider: :spider: :spider: :spider: :spider:
     
  24. Fox (Europa)

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    The balms and lotions sound 'interesting'. Some of them sound like they do the same as pots; does that mean they will allow a way around the existing pot timers or the chance to double-buff?

    I'm somewhat concerned about the ones that sounds like it will restore mana - thats pretty dangerous for PvP.

    Fox
     
  25. Tomas_Bryce

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    Most of the items in this list have been controlled by dupers for months to years. They have been sitting on literally hundreds of copies of some of these items and slowly selling them for hundreds of dollars. Almost all of them are also part of the duped items list that has been stickied in rare collection forums for months now.

    So, I as a collector, will be very happy if EA finally shatters the pretense of rarity in regards to these items.
     
  26. Flora Green

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    :love::D:eek:
     
  27. Sheridan

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    But that still does not mean that what Kratos is suggesting isn't what will happen. Perhaps the items that are determined to be dupes by some internal mechanism will be reassigned that tag or ID number from the Cliloc file.

    Say there's some server-side check done on a Calm. It's determined to be a dupe so now the item is reassigned with a new name: Calm [replica]. I could foresee something like that taking place.
     
  28. GalenKnighthawke

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    Nice.

    Those are gonna be the special event loots, eh, D.?

    Very, very clever of you all.

    All in one swoop, you have accomplished the following.

    • Given everyone a chance at these items. With their properties they are sure to be valuable items, almost no matter how common they are. And I bet they won't be that common.

    • Screwed over dupers.

    • Not screwed over rare dealers too badly (a little bit but not much). Reputable dealers of non-duped true rares will continue to sell and trade the originals among themselves. But people who wanted these items only to show off or to have their properties aren't going to be 80+ million for them (a few hundred million in some cases) just for their use, when there's these copies about that are more easily obtained.

    I'm thinking I like this. Especially after looking up the stats for many of these items.

    -Galen's player
     
  29. Clog|Mordain

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    Hm... Would be interesting to see if the replicas are insurable or not...
     
  30. Blesh

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    I imagine the duped items will be called "replicas".

    what would be ideal is if they are re-releasing all those rares as replicas, AND turning duped ones into replicas. It will deter the dupers and people with true rares get to keep their true rares. Its win win.

    Unless you own dupes, then you will be crying. :sad4:
     
  31. Tomas_Bryce

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    Eh make no mistake - lot of honest collectors will be making big sacrifices. First they were screwed over by dupers and now whatever value the items still had will probably take a plunge too. However, unlike what *some* people might think, we are not all greedy and we understand the huge risks associated with collecting. We also understand that this perhaps is the best way to deal with the dupes. Not the fairest, as that would involve simply deleting all the duped copies which would in turn reward the collectors who chose to stay true and not dupe their items. But that would cause a giant outcry amongst people who bought the duped versions. So, we will willingly get screwed as it is in the best interest of the game. But one should not trivialize this sacrifice either.

    For example, I know a collector who won a lot of these items in this list straight from the events. He has never sold them and held on to them. If he had decided to sell them, like many others did, then he would have benefited very nicely. Now, if these items are released with a [replica] tag (as speculated) then his collection will most definitely further lose value and "cool factor". Yet he is happy with the changes as long as it hurts the dupers most - as there is nothing more a honest collector dislikes in this game.
     
  32. Uvtha

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    Wow... I sure hope not, unless the mods are toned down. Some of those quest uber items are really strong.
     
  33. Satanatra

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    I really like the way you thnk Bryce... :ten:

    PS: I love getting all these high end items out to the masses. We need to be able to get as many people AT or AS CLOSE TO the caps as possible with their suits and items.

    Once everyone is there - skill and experience will dominate again, and not just gold and hacks.


    Speaking of which... i wish they would release "replica" hacks so i could actually outrun someone...
     
  34. LadyNico

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    Sheridan, that would be awesome. Yes, it would suck to discover something I believed to be a bona fide rare was, in fact, a dupe, BUT the greater good would be served by identifying and labelling it as such.
     
  35. GalenKnighthawke

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    Stupid question...

    If some of these items were unique or close-to-unique, and held by rares collectors, how did the dupers get ahold of them to begin with?

    Someone posted some months back, arguing that legit collectors had, for good sums of money, loaned out rares to be duped.

    On the one hand, it sounded credible. (If a fellow rares collector vouched for the duper not just walking away with the item; or if RL money was used; etc.)

    On the other hand, though, it didn't sound credible at all. (Awful risk, even if RL money was at stake; and among the rares collectors I know not a single one of them would do that, though granted I know like 2 or 3. lol)

    Do you have any insight?

    -Galen's player
     
  36. GarthGrey

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    OH please, go away already. This isn't about devaluing the game, or true historians. Your opinion is purely selfish. This game wasn't created FOR YOU or ABOUT YOU!!
     
  37. Trevelyan

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    They should have done

    Vine Cord Sandals [duped]
     
  38. LOL

    "Using a Scroll of Transcendence for a given skill will permanently increase your current level in that skill by the amount of points displayed on the scroll. As you may not gain skills beyond your maximum skill cap, any excess points will be lost."

    Nice i wonder how much persay will be given hrmmm :O
     
  39. Tomas_Bryce

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    There are very few items that are held on by the person who wins them at an event for the entirety of its existence. Eventually, someone will get bored and trade it for some other shiney. Eventually, someone quits and sells everything or let their houses fall. As years go by some things fall into the wrong hands and as long as there is a way to dupe in the game some things will eventually get duped. And if that item was not a unique then someone else somewhere is getting screwed big time.

    There are thousands of seer/event items out there - many owned by people who don't even realize its rarity. It is not possible to track everything and prevent it from falling into the wrong hands.

    There have been a few in the past. I wouldn't call them legitimate. Annoying thing is that it is not easy to spread the word on such people as all the rules are always to their advantage. Like on Stratics you can't call someone out by name as it would be considered a personal attack.
     
  40. NuSair

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    Yeah, and having them duped does nothing to their value....
     
  41. tipsy

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    I wonder if all the replicas mean that they know how to tell if an item is duped, or if these are items they'll pass out like candy to make the duped ones less valuable
     
  42. Ahh... but if a [Duped] tag can be added to an item, it becomes a simple matter to flag the duper and delete items automatically.

    BUT, we really don't know at this time what "Replica" means... so don't go getting your knickers in a twist just yet.