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New Crisis. Where are the bleeding liberals now?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by hakeem, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. hakeem

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    Nearly 3 weeks ago, and Ice storm crippled the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation. Before efforts could begin to restore basic utilities like heat, and water, nearly 2 feet of snow fell, bringing restoration efforts to a halt. Many of these people still have no heat, lights or water.
    This is right here in america, happening to people who didnt choose to be where they are.
    Like many here and elsewhere I have said, to hell with (insert bass ackwards Island or country here), what about us?
    Well, besides sending money, I am also canvassing my local town, charities and the internet seeking support for them.
    So here is my call. Put up or shut up. Want help to go to America? Start here. Want to help some poor people to make yourself feel good? Here ye go. Win for both sides.
    If ye don't do anything? Shut up.
     
  2. hen

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    What about sunrise
    What about rain
    What about all the things
    That you said we were to gain.. .
    What about killing fields
    Is there a time
    What about all the things
    That you said was yours and mine...
    Did you ever stop to notice
    All the blood we've shed before
    Did you ever stop to notice
    The crying Earth the weeping shores?

    Aaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaah

    What have we done to the world
    Look what we've done
    What about all the peace
    That you pledge your only son...
    What about flowering fields
    Is there a time
    What about all the dreams
    That you said was yours and mine...
    Did you ever stop to notice
    All the children dead from war
    Did you ever stop to notice
    The crying Earth the weeping shores

    Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaah

    I used to dream
    I used to glance beyond the stars
    Now I don't know where we are
    Although I know we've drifted far

    Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaaah
    Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaaah

    Hey, what about yesterday
    (What about us)
    What about the seas
    (What about us)
    The heavens are falling down
    (What about us)
    I can't even breathe
    (What about us)
    What about the bleeding Earth
    (What about us)
    Can't we feel its wounds
    (What about us)
    What about nature's worth
    (ooo,ooo)
    It's our planet's womb
    (What about us)
    What about animals
    (What about it)
    We've turned kingdoms to dust
    (What about us)
    What about elephants
    (What about us)
    Have we lost their trust
    (What about us)
    What about crying whales
    (What about us)
    We're ravaging the seas
    (What about us)
    What about forest trails
    (ooo, ooo)
    Burnt despite our pleas
    (What about us)
    What about the holy land
    (What about it)
    Torn apart by creed
    (What about us)
    What about the common man
    (What about us)
    Can't we set him free
    (What about us)
    What about children dying
    (What about us)
    Can't you hear them cry
    (What about us)
    Where did we go wrong
    (ooo, ooo)
    Someone tell me why
    (What about us)
    What about babies
    (What about it)
    What about the days
    (What about us)
    What about all their joy
    (What about us)
    What about the man
    (What about us)
    What about the crying man
    (What about us)
    What about Abraham
    (What was us)
    What about death again
    (ooo, ooo)
    Do we give a damn
     
  3. Sturdy

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    Not sure what this has to do with liberal vs. conservative. Are liberals holding up aid money to these people? Do you have any liberals in the government of (whatever ass backwords state you live in) or should you be looking at this a different way.

    I wonder if the earthquake was in Vancouver how you would react? There is not a competition between suffering people. And if there is it your responsibility to decide who to help.

    No doubt the people you are worried about need all the help they can get. But your partisan BS wont help anyone.
     
  4. Aran

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    Nobody cares about natives.
     
  5. hakeem

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    So , some poetic crap, political rhetoric, and apathy is all that can be mustered.

    Go get stuffed.


    Mods these people are useless, as the OP I ask to lock this thread.
     
  6. hen

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    Try the No Holds Barred forum next time.
     
  7. Aran

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    If we're useless, leave.
     
  8. Nestorius

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    What are the Cheyenne River Sioux like? You know any of them or are you one? How come they don't have a casino or the federal funding to fix their reservation? How come no one is helping them or putting it on the news?
     
  9. hakeem

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    Nestorious, I thank you for the opportunity for real conversation.
    The people there are pretty much like people anywhere these days, normally, scraping by.
    I have relatives there, Rose Bud, Pine Ridge, and Broken Arrow. Thus my eagerness to help on any way I can.
    The casino ,quite some distance away, is privately owned. As for federal funding, who knows what the feds think? Other than personal accouns, the only new I have seen of it is through yahoo news, MSnbc, and a small group on facebook.
     
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  11. Llwyd

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    Yeah, where's Al Gore when ya' need him?

    Seriously, there are so many "needs" out there, but most of us have llimited resources and can't help every cause we hear about, even if we'd like to.
     
  12. *ahem*
    Charity begins at home ? :lol:
     
  13. Hanna

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    I think he is refering to this Federal funds still weeks away for Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe residents

    As as the democrates control the government, the same ones that whined about the way Kritina was handled (which also had much more difficult strategic problems, including the much forgoten state of mississipi). He may have a valid point.

    The Bush Foundation is matching donations to ths cause. [begin sarcasm]The foundation was started by, no not the presidents "Bush", but still some sleezy captialist from the 3m corp. Those darn non-progressives, taking things into their own hands without the BIG government forcing them to.[/end sarcasm]
     
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    I'm not sure what hakeem's problem is but in his rage he forgot to actually provide a link.

    http://countdown.msnbc.com

    It's unfortunate this happened on Jan 22 and people did not find out about it, but there's no reason to start yelling and being divisive.
     
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    Missed out the actual facts from the very article you yourself linked too there, I notice;

    Donations are still vehemently needed. Please view my previous article for information and visit the Bush Foundation website. The foundation will match donations, dollar for dollar, for a maximum of $25, 000 dollars.

    So they not only won't donate unless someone else does it first, but they've put a total cap on how much they'll give too... and quite a low cap too. Better hope those poor unfortunates don't need $30,000 in support eh? But good to see you didn't let factual honesty stand in the way of making a cheap political point out of other people's misery... Oh, nearly forgot, the Governor of South Dakota is Mike Rounds... who is a Republican. Took me less than 5 minutes from the other side of the Atlantic to think "Dishonest right wing ranting? In their America? Surely not! Let's just read a few articles and... Gasp! I'm shocked! SHOCKED! but the truth appears to be 180 degrees away from their claims!"

    But never mind me, now you'll be providing proof that you have helped those poor people yourselves, right? And not just seeking to get hand outs from other people to help your relatives, like all those evil liberal welfare spongers do yes? After all, you don't want to be shown up by Keith Olbermann of all people, right?!
     
  16. Aran

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    Nobody has to give a penny. They're being very generous.
     
  17. hakeem

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    If this was directed to me, (relatives), I did indeed help.
    If you consider going there, packing supplies in, cooking,
    assisting in the infirmary the best i knew how, and reading to kids in a makeshift daycare helping.
     
  18. hakeem

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    By privately owned, I mean businessmen of a caucasian persuasion, and by some distance, I mean appx. 400 miles.
    I don't call that home, do you?
     
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    I just can't get over how the political aspect of this has been the focal point, not people suffering.

    I am pretty sure if it was White folks, it would have been fixed in a week. Blacks folks, EVERYONE would have been on board for fear they didn't look racist.

    Tell ye what. Get the hell out of our country.
     
  20. Nestorius

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    Same problem with a lot of Native American communities. No publicity, no apparatus for publicity. A tribe is like a corporation where no one can be fired, so its hard to make it work efficiently.
     
  21. King Durango

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    Hey Aran. You're a horrible human being and a moron. The statement you have made here makes me sick.
     
  22. Aran

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    But you must admit, I was 100% correct.
     
  23. Kiminality

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    If you're going to attack something, attack the idea, not the poster.
    Attacking the poster is a personal attack.
     
  24. Hanna

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    Apparently when it's convienant, liberals forget that FEMA is federal not state agency. The governer has no control over FEMA, regardless of political affiliation. The only dishonest reading here is yours. You also are under the misconception that foundations have limitless funds, most of their funds usually are already earmarked for ongoing charity work. You are pety and apparently totaly ungratefull for their charity work.
     
  25. people through out this country suffer's everyday. From the homeless to the elderly. Personally I believe that if you live in that area, then by all means help. If not then help where and when you can. Just because this has to do with native americans doesnt mean that it should take priority over everything else. I'm sorry for your relitives and I hope everything will be fine but I'd much rather help the people down the street that cant afford thier life saving meds, or the kids going hungry every night here in my own town.