This fell on deaf ears in uhall, so maybe it will get more attention here where others like myself may be impacted. First, the old link, but I have more to add to this now. http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/231211-point-behind-new-detect-hidden-rules.html This is starting to severely frustrate me, I now have no real way to reveal stealth tamers at all, and they are by and far the most common "farming" type character on my shard. I can spam every spell I have, and use detect hidden all I want but it's become an invincible "thief proof" barrier. It's as bad as being in tram, I'm literally not allowed to reveal them anymore by the game itself. My only chance is to hope a red guildmate is online, and that he can make it to where I am on time and undetected, which is a rarity. It seems every time I've returned to this game, shortly after something new is added that directly hinders me from being able to play my favorite "class" of character..