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new discord spell

Discussion in 'UHall' started by o2bavr6, May 23, 2010.

  1. o2bavr6

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    great job EA with the new spell Despair and all its damage it does. way to once again ruin PvP.

    Everyone try it out, get music and discord do the quest to get the book and use the spell in pvp. it will ruin pvp till they nerf it. so the sooner everyone knows about it and uses it the sooner they will fix it. it does 30 to 60 damage every 2 seconds.

    Great job devs!!
     
  2. Uvtha

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    Cept that you cant do anything else while you use it (like heal or cure). So you're pretty much easy pickins.
     
  3. Viper09

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    It damages players?
     
  4. maroite

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    Half arsed testing is half arsed. Damage will cancel the effect. rolleyes:

    Aka, Magic Missile/Fireball/Fart in the Bards general direction will all cause the spell to cancel since its a channeled effect.

    That too...
     
  5. o2bavr6

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    yes it does
     
  6. o2bavr6

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  7. Capt.E

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    What spellbook has fart in it?

    I've been lookin' for an hour now.
     
  8. maroite

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    ... Which then cancels the effect.

    Seriously, you don't test stuff very well. Then you come to the forums and whine about crap.

    Its no wonder the devs break so many things in game when people like you do half arsed testing and then cry on the forums about it.

    lol Pretty sure its the ":" spell book. ;p hah:thumbup1:
     
  9. Scarst

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    Oh yes the fart spell, silent but deadly, I rarely use it anymore.

    But seriously, Where do you get the quest? I'd like to test it myself and I'm not sure where it is.
     
  10. Capt.E

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    U have to do a special quest for that one??

    I'd imagine it has to have something to do with gathering beans for a chili cookoff.
     
  11. o2bavr6

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    actually no it doesnt break the spell
     
  12. o2bavr6

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    in brit tram cant remember where id have to look again
     
  13. o2bavr6

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    Go to the conservatory in Brit Tram get the quest from Sir Berran, then go discord 6 goats and go back to him to collect your book.
     
  14. o2bavr6

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    point is if it does 60 damage per tick the nerve and deathsrike will kill you even if it cancels the spell.

    plus ive been testing fighting it for 2 days now, have you?
     
  15. Capt.E

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    wow! That rocks, and here I was thinking people were double casting on me, when really they were farting!

    Learn somethin' new everyday I guess.

    I gotta get that quest, but what do goats have to do with farting? I guess if you are lactose intolerant maybe?? Seems like a stretch. I want a lactose buff put into the game immediatly.

    Oh and a gas mask, or air fresheners.
     
  16. Beastmaster

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    Another BS knee jerk reaction to something the OP read. He has not tested this at all.
     
  17. o2bavr6

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    thats what ive been doing for 2 days on tc1 is testing it,
    tilyou try it stfu
     
  18. Beastmaster

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    Try reading the rest of the threads about this and you'll find I was one of the first testers.
     
  19. o2bavr6

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    dude they bleed you and then cast that spell so you can hardly cure ass a mage, dont tell me abuot it ive died tons to it
     
  20. o2bavr6

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    and what you dont think its overpowered? if not your one of the kids using it in pvp
     
  21. o2bavr6

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    tell me then, how does one defend against it? how do i stop the damage from happening?
     
  22. Capt.E

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    I am amazed by you.

    2+ days of testing and you haven't figured out a counter to it?

    Don't heal through it maybe??
     
  23. Fink

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    Cover your ears. :sad3:

    Or maybe report your concerns directly to the devs. It's still in testing, isn't it?
     
  24. o2bavr6

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    and when they bleed you and nervstrike you, what do you do then? not heal?
     
  25. o2bavr6

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    and one other thing, how long does it last? so you expect someone to not heal through a fight the whole time?
     
  26. Viper09

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    Apples, remove curse? Spirit Speak?
     
  27. Capt.E

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    Magic arrow is pretty fast.
     
  28. o2bavr6

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    There is no way to counter it.
     
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    or at least none you want to admit after your rant?
     
  30. o2bavr6

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    honestly ive tried everything. any help would be much appreciated
     
  31. o2bavr6

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    what stops them from casting it again right after you eat an apple?

    i dont have remove curse, i have no chiv and im not a necro so i cant ss?

    so then what do i do, other than die lol
     
  32. o2bavr6

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    well i just tried apples and they dont stop it. any other bright ideas?
     
  33. Capt.E

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    The timer on barding skills
     
  34. o2bavr6

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    what does that mean?
     
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    I cast tribulation and despair on my friend and he lighting'ed me and it stopped my despire/and tribulation... And tried again and he switched from using a spell to Armor Ignore... and as soon as he armor ignored me, its stopped the spell as well...

    In fact, the second I cast either despair or tribulation on all he has to do is run away from me for more than 8 tiles and it instantly break my disco spells...

    Test more before you rent about something you have no clue about please?
     
  36. Viper09

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    No. It was suggested that you try and heal through it. You went and countered a situation where they do specials to prevent you from healing. That's when you use apples, SS, remove curse, etc.
     
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    Making this thread is a prove that you arent so bright yourself... but hey kiddo I will be nice...
    I will repost it for you.

    I cast tribulation and despair on my friend and he lighting'ed me and it stopped my despire/and tribulation... And tried again and he switched from using a spell to Armor Ignore... and as soon as he armor ignored me, its stopped the spell as well...

    In fact, the second I cast either despair or tribulation on all he has to do is run away from me for more than 8 tiles and it instantly break my disco spells...

    Test more before you rent about something you have no clue about please?
     
  38. maroite

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    I told him that damage would break the spell when he first posted. You can walk up to the bard and punch him for 1 damage and it will cancel the effect.

    Not to mention unless he is a crappy pvper running around in no armor, it will never do 60 damage to an all 70's suit. I was using it on dragons one night without disco and it was doing maybe 29ish damage to them, with only maybe 50ish resists.

    If I disco'd the dragon it would tick for around 50ish. I bet he'll next claim you can use disco on players in pvp. rolleyes:

    Any damage will break the channeling.

    Not to mention you can still pot/healing stone through it.
     
  39. Capt.E

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    Oh yeah smarty pants??

    What breaks a fart??? Huh, huh? Yeah that's what I thought.
     
  40. maroite

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    hmm... too many answers to that question...

    :lol:
     
  41. Rumil of Lorain

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    That would be Beano pots sheesh you ever test anything before you come and whine on the boards
     
  42. maroite

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    I'm surprised no one got the Monty Python reference in that... :sad4:

    Kind of disappointed too...
     
  43. Capt.E

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    Why the heck would I test something? I want nerfs!!! I want buffs!!! Everything is overpowered!!! If it's new, and I can't figure out a way to counter it, it needs to be nerfed dangit!
     
  44. maroite

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    Rather blunt summary of the OP. lol
     
  45. G.v.P

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    Yeah, except, you're not a PvPer, so your opinion doesn't really matter in this thread.
     
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    1 v 1 the ability seems easy enough to counter, but 30-60, if that is indeed the range, at a 2 second interval, that seems way too high in group PvP. Should be more like 20-35 or something lower.
     
  47. I agree, 60 points every 2 seconds would be too high in PvP, except that's only gonna happen against a naked foe. Despair from a 120 discorder does 60 points of physical damage. Against someone with 70 physical resist that would be 18 points of damage. Considering you can't cast any other spells (offensive or defensive) while using this ability and it ends when you're interrupted, it's not really a substitute for a good offensive combo really. Also, Dev Logrus said (in the bard forum) that they are looking at the damage, perhaps increased it for PvM and reducing it for PvP.

    If you flamestrike a naked person you can do about 90 damage (don't know the exact number because it's just not useful to know). So here, I'm gonna give away the secret that the OP couldn't figure out about how to counter despair...wait for it...wait for it...have some physical resist. Here's an advanced way to counter despair...have physical resist & fight back at the same time.

    Look these new mastery skills are not going to make bards replace archers & mystics in PvP. At most, it's going to make it so bards aren't sitting ducks when they get raided. A great majority of PvPers love to kill sitting ducks of course (the honorable PvPers that enjoy a challenge are few and far between), so you can be sure they will be screaming vocally for a nerf.
     
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    Ahh okay, thanks :)
     
  49. o2bavr6

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    Well this is all great information, thanks.
    I would swear that the damage continues but I will test it again.

    Basically what has been happening is that they cast it on me then start hitting me hard and it still seems to tick away. maybe i'm just confused, I donno.

    I'll try again thanks for all the help.
     
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    so ive been testing a bit more, it sure seems that i still take damage from it even when someone hits me with a weapon, not a spell. at least for a couple more ticks of damage being 18 per tick.

    I try to run away but the dexer just chases me so i still take damage and then they nervestrike me. and again i take damage from the despair spell.

    What am i doing wrong? any help would be appreciated.