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New item drop rate....

Discussion in 'UHall' started by THP, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. THP

    THP Stratics Legend
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    Can someone confirm if the chance for a new item drop is only a 30% chance per spawn for only 1 person out of everone doing that spawn....because considering on europa at least theres around at least 10-25 at each idol spawn.....then thats a really is low chance i guess???
     
  2. phantus

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    That is the chance as stated by the devs and patch notes. If they raised it everyone would have 3 sets of these items in a month as I'm told. Sorry. What you need to do is stop being a trammy and do some spawns by yourself of with 2 buddies in fel. This also, is what I am told.


    All kidding aside the drops need to be altered to work on a progressive point system and not a luck of the draw doom system. Yet our devs are only consistent in their inconsistency.
     
  3. Goodmann

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    30% overall

    if you have more than 2 people doing the champ not a good %. Hell it's not even good at that.
     
  4. THP

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    Well even if i did i spawn with only 3 friends...thats 4 peeps in total the odds are still pretty low of getting a drop...thats the normal 30% chance the spawn will have a drop this time and then the 25% chance its me and not my 3 freinds.....

    Thats a mere 7.5% chance if my maths is correct with ''4 peeps'' at a spawn

    pahhhhhhh...no wonder ive only got one item after doing well over 20 spawns form start to finish in big groups of like ten people plus so far.....chances then must be 2-3%
     
  5. Petrify

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    Trying to get replicas in a group of 10 people is really dumb.

    Unless its an Oaks or a harrower you should be doing it in groups of 4.
     
  6. Farsight

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    Quick math:
    30 % chance of getting a drop total
    12 people minimum per spawn (Out of experience playing at various times on my shard, the same 11 people show up to nearly every spawn near the end. It's a really odd "coincidence")

    =2.5% chance of getting a drop for yourself, which is 1 replica or deco item every 40 spawns.

    Now consider there are 6 or more items in every spawn, and most people are looking for a specific one. That means that you'll have to do about 240 of a specific spawn for YOUR drop on average.

    Now if each spawn takes 40 minutes to do and there's a 20 minute respawn timer, that means there is an average of 48 spawns a day, and the spawn with your item comes only once every 6 spawns (to be fair, the LT sash is a shared and is possible about 2 times in 6, the 3rd being Oaks). So the spawn with your item happens about 8 times a day on average. That means if you play 24 hours a day, it would take...

    40 days to have a collection of everything. On average (your milage may vary)

    Now this is just the numbers for Trammel Valor and Humility spawn. Oaks items will come more quickly since it spawns twice as often, but fewer people will get them since it attracts twice as many people.

    In other words, as we've clearly seen by now. The items coming out of Trammel will trickle into the economy compared to the items coming out of Felucca, where the spawns are faster (10 minute Baracoon? And that's a slow one), respawn more quickly (valor triggers it, not a timer) etc.

    I consider that fair.
     
  7. Petrify

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    You want the solution to your problem?

    Do it in fel.
     
  8. THP

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    Does high luck play any part in the drops.....
     
  9. GalenKnighthawke

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    You need to compensate for the relatively low chance through volume.

    It's hard work, but it's fun PvM, and the drop rate is low enough that the items are still valuable.

    -Galen's player
     
  10. Warpig Inc

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    Ya I have to agree on the same plp showing up at the right time for the tram champs. Guess they moved a couple of their ghost cams.

    I did the champs like 15 a day. After 9 days of nothing I get 4 of the deco items within the span of 6 champs. Nothing since. 7 days more before another drop.

    Adding more; I don't have an issue with the stuff that goes to backpack drop rate. Just shouldn't come in a hot flash of rewards for a span few champs and back to nothing for week/days again. Just shouldn't be the same last level rush of plp to help like in fel (note: at least those that show up in tram have character templates that can PVM,LOL). As an after thought I am sure they wished every backpack drop had this current drop rate. A Hunter's Headdress should not be going for 1.5 mil. I think the SOT could have better drop rate. Sure there is not a load of plp doing training for tracking/tactics/cooking that a market for wont hurt. The replica drop rate is just fine. Just don't want something new becoming stale in a few weeks again. Hell if the latest plant additions didn't have the growth time factor that would of become stale in a few days.
     
  11. RichDC

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    WarPig If you worked out your drop rate, it will show you that you are pretty much bang on target

    Actually worked out that you hit a 29.2%drop rate.

    You all have to remember that if you have 10people hitting a champ that drops your personal drop rate to 3%.
     
  12. RichDC

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    Ive worked it out for you...

    With the numbers you gave...

    10 people equals personal drop rate of 3%
    20 people equals personal drop rate of 1.5%
    25 people equals personaly drop rate of 1.2%

    (my maths isnt good enough to work out 15people atm sorry :))
     
  13. Farsight

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    Oddly enough, I had the same run of luck.

    I swore that my character was buggy and I'd never get a replica or deco drop, then I got 3 drops on 3 champs in a row (Gauntlets of anger and 2 Brave Knight Katana) and I'm now back on track at exactly the right number of drops per-spawn relative to people participating.

    I suspect it will be another two weeks before I hit another streak.
     
  14. that I like to see. So far I have gotten two drops while doing the CSs, one was a swamp tile [sold it as fast as I got it] another was one of those swords, nice blade.
     
  15. Basara

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    While it would be nice to get the neat stuff, I'm really there for the SoTs - that, and to train my tamer's vet & lore while training his pets (I've played the tamer 40+ hours this last week, after using him for less than 40 hours TOTAL 2003-2008)