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(Player News) New Magincia Township (Fel) Declares Its Independence 7/17/11

Discussion in 'UO Catskills' started by OrianaGRI, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. OrianaGRI

    OrianaGRI Guest

    On Sunday 7/17, New Magincia Township (Felucca) declared itself independent of the central political system of Sosaria.

    Thank you to the Catskills EM program for lending us Adris' superlative role-playing services.

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  2. Krinkle

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    Down with the Royal System! Power to the people!

    I think I listened to this in a Napoleon podcast. They called it the French Revolution. It didn't really work out too well for over 25% of the people. They kinda died. Hopefully this will work out better.
     
  3. PitrGri

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    Liberté

    Sur mes cahiers d'écolier
    Sur mon pupitre et les arbres
    Sur le sable de neige
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur toutes les pages lues
    Sur toutes les pages blanches
    Pierre sang papier ou cendre
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur les images dorées
    Sur les armes des guerriers
    Sur la couronne des rois
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur la jungle et le désert
    Sur les nids sur les genêts
    Sur l'écho de mon enfance
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur les merveilles des nuits
    Sur le pain blanc des journées
    Sur les saisons fiancées
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur tous mes chiffons d'azur
    Sur l'étang soleil moisi
    Sur le lac lune vivante
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur les champs sur l'horizon
    Sur les ailes des oiseaux
    Et sur le moulin des ombres
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur chaque bouffées d'aurore
    Sur la mer sur les bateaux
    Sur la montagne démente
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur la mousse des nuages
    Sur les sueurs de l'orage
    Sur la pluie épaisse et fade
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur les formes scintillantes
    Sur les cloches des couleurs
    Sur la vérité physique
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur les sentiers éveillés
    Sur les routes déployées
    Sur les places qui débordent
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur la lampe qui s'allume
    Sur la lampe qui s'éteint
    Sur mes raisons réunies
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur le fruit coupé en deux
    Du miroir et de ma chambre
    Sur mon lit coquille vide
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur mon chien gourmand et tendre
    Sur ses oreilles dressées
    Sur sa patte maladroite
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur le tremplin de ma porte
    Sur les objets familiers
    Sur le flot du feu béni
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur toute chair accordée
    Sur le front de mes amis
    Sur chaque main qui se tend
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur la vitre des surprises
    Sur les lèvres attendries
    Bien au-dessus du silence
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur mes refuges détruits
    Sur mes phares écroulés
    Sur les murs de mon ennui
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur l'absence sans désir
    Sur la solitude nue
    Sur les marches de la mort
    J'écris ton nom

    Sur la santé revenue
    Sur le risque disparu
    Sur l'espoir sans souvenir
    J'écris ton nom

    Et par le pouvoir d'un mot
    Je recommence ma vie
    Je suis né pour te connaître
    Pour te nommer

    Liberté

    Paul Eluard
    in Poésies et vérités, 1942
     
  4. Zuckuss

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    A couple of questions...

    What is the central political system of Sosaria and how is it limiting our freedom? If there is some great evil lurking about, stealing our free will and limiting our freedoms, I would like to know about it.

    Is this the end of several of the Royal Guard regiments sworn under Queen Dawn and the laws of Sosaria... sworn to protect the lands, uphold it's laws and to serve all it's people? What happens to a Royal Guard regiment when the oath is broken and a regiment chooses to abandon their vows and serve a new purpose?

    Does the above mentioned mean we will start to see activity in New Magincia Felucca? I visit regularly and I have never seen a single one of it's inhabitants.


    This reporter intends to find out.
     
  5. Pandora_CoD

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    Excellent questions, Zuck... my point of view:

    The Crown is very much STILL an organization, with or without an appointed, sworn in Regent. On my last talks, the EM's are looking to put someone in charge of the Crown's affairs, which will probably be a new Queen or King, and will probably be part of a future storyline in the works.

    The City of Magincia will always be part of the Crown's holdings... however a formed "township" can set up its own government independent of the Crown's government. Think the U.K. --- they have a Queen, but are governed by Parliament. The Queen has a say in who is elected to lead Parliament (she endorses the Prime Minister), but Parliament then governs itself.

    At any rate, congratulations to the efforts of our fellow players.

    Just my .02 cents. :)
     
  6. Scarst

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    Devils advocate here:

    The real question is why does anyone care if these people decide to call themselves a town, they have most of the houses evidently, I haven't bothered to check and I'm not in any real hurry to make an effort.

    They evidently have a guild they're doing this with although the specifications of getting yourself named a town never said anything about having a single guild, just a solidarity of people.

    This brings up another point if I really wanted I could do the same thing they're doing by opening 3 more accounts then clustering 4 houses together and calling myself a village, and any RP guild on Catskills that disputes the legitimacy of owning more than one house per person I can safely call hypocrites and name people in there guild with more than one house. (lol)

    Back on topic, why are you questioning it does it hurt you, are you forced to interact more with these people because they decided to do this. I'm not saying I support either side because I really don't care ... but unless you want to pick a fight over it there really isn't anything you can do about it it's not like the Dev's or EM's are going to be all "You can't have these houses you payed for and you can't call yourself a town".

    I can provide a precedent from Europa for this sort of thing if you do claim them into your RP circle though. The RP guild of Vesper basically did the same thing they did in those screen shots in about 1998. Fairly sure they had a war and won.

    That being said I know it's lolsy irony that I'm voicing this role since I certainly have no attachment to these people and I've done my fair share of arguing against them for about two years but I'm not stating these things as an RPer I'm stating them as a Player. The real question is why is it even an issue.
     
  7. Zuckuss

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  8. Flutter

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    No.
     
  9. Vallend

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    There are many points of view on this subject.
    1. Who cares? The vast majority of the Catskills players fall under this heading. That they own most of the houses on the Fel side of Magincia and have declared themselves a independent town has no affect on others players gaming experience so who cares what they do.
    2. Them declaring the island as their own just makes it easier for PVPers to find them. Of course most likely they all will be friended to each others houses so that does ruin some of the PVP fun of hunting them there. Still I am sure lone hunters or very large groups will be in heaven knowing where they can locate targets with ease.
    3. Role Playing stand point 1: Other player ran towns have declared they are independent from the crown before on Catskills. Most of these groups just ignore the Mythic established realm and pretend they are a separate smaller kingdom that exists with their own governments and laws.
    4. Role Playing stand point 2: The citizens of Magincia Fel have unlawfully left the established Kingdom making them traitors to the crown and proper action must be taken. In this case many actions could take place.
    a. The crown can grant them their freedom and establish diplomatic relations with them. (Not many kingdoms would do this because it encourages other groups with similar aspirations to attempt that same thing. In most cases that the kingdoms do accept this is because they do not have the force of arms to bring the rebels back into the fold.)
    b. The Kingdom will take economic and liberty sanctions to insure the rebelling people return to them. Such as blockading shipping to and from the disputed area and limiting the travel rights of the people from the disputed area. (Meaning no trade or travel, isolating the rebels from outside contact till they surrender.)
    c. The Kingdom deploys loyal troops to the disputed area to use the force of arms to regain the traitorous lands. The leaders of said rebellion of course will be seized and either killed or placed on trial as an example. (Meaning the Royal Guard will be called into action to overrun and take control of the island.)

    As I stated at the first the average Catskills UO player does not care about this at all. If they want to Role Play their own Kingdom and they do not bother others.. who cares? It has no affect on most players day to day UO life. Now when the dev team gets around to giving us a new ruler and that ruler makes a Role playing decision about it then we may care.
     
  10. Petra Fyde

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    On a forum where the accepted and universally understood language is English it is unkind to use a different language that not all can understand. Please provide a translation of your post.
     
  11. Scarst

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    Yay for group apathy!
     
  12. Farsight

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    Meh,

    I just don't like seeing the middle of a supposedly role played story with no reference point to a beginning or an end, no description of characters, no plot or potential plot. And I'm not sure there's any basis in UO lore, past present or future there either.

    But I'm pretty sure they nailed their target audience.
     
  13. Krinkle

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    The translated version doesn't do this work justice. A good criticism work would have to be read to really understand the Surrealists.

    Liberté


    On my school notebooks
    On my desk and on the trees
    On the sands of snow
    I write your name

    On the pages I have read
    On all the white pages
    Stone, blood, paper or ash
    I write your name

    On the images of gold
    On the weapons of the warriors
    On the crown of the king
    I write your name

    On the jungle and the desert
    On the nest and on the brier
    On the echo of my childhood
    I write your name

    On all my scarves of blue
    On the moist sunlit swamps
    On the living lake of moonlight
    I write your name

    On the fields, on the horizon
    On the birds’ wings
    And on the mill of shadows
    I write your name

    On each whiff of daybreak
    On the sea, on the boats
    On the demented mountaintop
    I write your name

    On the froth of the cloud
    On the sweat of the storm
    On the dense rain and the flat
    I write your name

    On the flickering figures
    On the bells of colors
    On the natural truth
    I write your name

    On the high paths
    On the deployed routes
    On the crowd-thronged square
    I write your name

    On the lamp which is lit
    On the lamp which isn’t
    On my reunited thoughts
    I write your name

    On a fruit cut in two
    Of my mirror and my chamber
    On my bed, an empty shell
    I write your name

    On my dog, greathearted and greedy
    On his pricked-up ears
    On his blundering paws
    I write your name

    On the latch of my door
    On those familiar objects
    On the torrents of a good fire
    I write your name

    On the harmony of the flesh
    On the faces of my friends
    On each outstretched hand
    I write your name

    On the window of surprises
    On a pair of expectant lips
    In a state far deeper than silence
    I write your name

    On my crumbled hiding-places
    On my sunken lighthouses
    On my walls and my ennui
    I write your name

    On abstraction without desire
    On naked solitude
    On the marches of death
    I write your name

    And for the want of a word
    I renew my life
    For I was born to know you
    To name you

    Liberty.

    Paul Eluard
    in Poésies et vérités, 1942
     
  14. OrianaGRI

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    *smiles warmly*

    It is fine to see all our Catskills friends come out to greet our New Magincia Independence.

    Thank you for your warm wishes and otherwise.

    Fait accompli, mes amis.
     
  15. Gheed

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    Well let me be the first to say congradulations! :) This may be the only player community based use of Magincia on any shard.

    *edit* I was actually the second to say congrats! *edit*
     
  16. Farsight

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    Very true, it probably is.

    I hope it works out for y'alls!
     
  17. PitrGri

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    Dusk seems to be a really weird guild...
    You can add any character to it and there are absolutely no rules.
    You can steal, kill, deceive... whatever you like... if you can survive...

    It is warring all other guilds and same "no" rules apply... please beware when stealing from a citizen... royal guards or tormtars might be about... or the citizen might be strong enough to finish you off...

    Possibilities... bloody and endless.


    (Dusk GM... Gilbert 391-283-807)