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New round of duping? - warning to players

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Smoot, Oct 1, 2015.

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  1. Smoot

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    Lots of cheap mythic tokens as well as other code items around.

    Id like everyone to remember the last time this happened, and take note of the guild involved this time around.

    Remember that the only way to make sure tokens / items wont be deleted in this situation is to buy the code yourself from the origin store.
     
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    Oooo Intrigue and Gossip! Just what I play video games for.
     
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    Just curious... has broadsword confirmed this theory of yours or is it just speculation?
     
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  4. Goodmann

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    Mesanna be like

     
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    What shard and how much.

    I love me some cheap mythic tokens
     
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  6. Goodmann

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    Just saw a few on atl for 55m, normally 70m+
     
  7. OREOGL

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    Oh, that's the "sale". Last time duping zerged they went down to 5-10m.

    Origin just had a sale on tokens, So if it was 33%, tokens would have sold around $13.5.

    Translate that into uo gold would be about 42 mill at .30 a mil.

    This isn't a sale.
     
  8. Smoot

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    if you also remember, the tokens bought by unsuspecting players were around 55m when the dupe first hit. As i also mentioned, note the guild / vendors they are sold from. I highly doubt knowing who is involved that they would be selling the tokens for need of gold, especially at the rate you quoted, which is extremely high.
     
  9. Smoot

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    So i knew when i posted this there would be the normal flood of nay-sayers and trolls. What it comes down to is player reputation, deciding for yourself what the risk is and if something is legitmate or not.

    we all know how many un-suspecting players bought the tokens last time around when nothing was yet apparent and lost out on all that gold.

    I just want everyone to be aware.

    Its also always best to report any suspicious activity using the in game report feature (physical harrassment) so that the devs can assess the problem (if any)

    I am Not a GM or Dev, but am basing this post off the last few days observation, the player names / guilds involved, and the history of how such influxes of items / tokens have played out in the past.

    Personally i would not risk marks on my account, bans, or loss of gold just for some cheap tokens. If i do need one, ill be buying from origin.
     
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    Origin had a Promo recently, prices were like 40%off
    maybe this is the case
     
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    When they confirm it's with burning houses lol
     
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  12. Riyana

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    Before this gets out of hand, I remind everyone that making accusations against identifiable players or guilds is not acceptable. Such accusations constitute personal attacks under the Stratics Rules of Conduct. Tread lightly.

    As has been pointed out, the Origin store recently had a sale. A sudden influx of tokens could be related to that, or not. If you suspect duping, send any evidence you have to Broadsword directly.
     
  13. DJ Diddles

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    I'm quite confident these tokens aren't duped. I am very confident that these tokens are bought with stolen credit cards, though. On reported stolen purchases, Origin does a very poor job of actually removing the purchased merchandise- something that is often impossible in a game like UO where many of these items are consumed soon after being bought. Not to minimize the problem, but a dupe is not to blame for this; instead it's low risk credit card scams at work.

    These scams combined with the origin sale (re: buying bulk tokens with stolen money), the current prices make a lot of sense.
     
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    If you also remember the dude was stocking them non stop. Currently there are three for sale maybe one of two are around 55m.

    But if you cry wolf long enough you might get lucky.

    EtA: last time you could still vendor duped items, now you can't. So unless they start spamming in chat for really low prices it's probably from the sale on origin.
     
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    THis.... AGAIN FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME!!!!!!!!! non vendor-able doesnt = dupe. You can still put duped items on vendors. The rule is ineffective not a good judge if an item is duped or not.

    UO failed to write a code that prevented all dupes from getting on vendors... They probably do catch a lot... but definitely not all.


    As far as the OP is concerned.

    Thank you for the warning, who wants to buy something at 50m when you can buy it at 10... :)
     
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  16. Smoot

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    everyone (including mesanna) knows you can vendor many duped items, including tokens. that exploit is not allowed to be talked about here on stratics, but we all know the dupe detection system is hopelessly flawed.
     
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    They failed at it when transferring to another shard.

    And if they failed at the code altogether there are still only three for sale ranging from 55 - 72m.

    They Also have issues with regular items being non vendor able.

    But I think it's safe that common sense applies here.
     
  18. Smoot

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    Well who knows. Stolen credit cards, duped, whatever. I hope broadsword is handling the situation, and just goes to show what these players / guilds selling them are made of.
     
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    Explain whyntherr is only three. Also where can i find said duped tokens.

    I made 10 characters last time.

    I wouldn't mind seeing that happen again.
     
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    Oh and how much are these tokens
     
  21. Smoot

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    and im sure many other players did as well. players who might have bought them from origin store instead. and that my friend, is why broadsword couldnt afford a better artist for the new cartoony login screen :)

    imagine what UO would be if they actually had the money lost from duping and other stolen/illegally created items. We might have double the staff we do now.
     
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    All I know is I am pretty mad panda they already sold.... :rant2:
     
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    So, all those vendors that sell transfer tokens and Advanced character tokens all day long, for the past year, on multiple servers for the same price, but nothing else, we should look into and accuse the house owners for duping?

    :rolleyes2:
     
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  24. Longtooths

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    meh...lots o' conspiracy...no facts.
     
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    OMG Xfer Tokens 44M and Mythic Tokens 55M shortly after a 30% sale
    Ultima Online™ Mythic Character Token $17.49
    Ultima Online™ Character Transfer Code $13.99

    Please tell us oh so wise ones what a fair price would be and I also resent the fact that all sellers according to the OP are DUPERS.
     
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    Yes the screen is more cartoony and is bad but I've never cared about the artwork much.

    However in this case I'm willing to bet origin made money from the sales.

    As far as previously duped items, buying those directly benefited me so I didn't care how much uo made.
     
  27. Smoot

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    Sellers who already have extra billions would most likely not pay that high of a conversion rate for even more extra gold.
     
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    Well i think that is enough for me commenting. The original post speaks for itself. All those who wish to post have fun, and all those in game just be careful out there.
     
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    Well not necessarily. They are marking up the value if they're at 55 mil ea. so from a gold value of 42 that's 13m profit or 4 bucks a token.
     
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    @Smoot you keep mentioning "guilds" let's just be frank about it. because there's a vendor at my guild's house thats selling discounted tokens, you now have to bring this up and start throwing out words like "DUPING"... there's no secret what the agenda is.. you don't like us... we do business with everyone everyday and not a single one of them have ever had a issue with us...
    with that said, i do like the free advertisement. it works well.
     
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  31. Lord Arm

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    smoot is just warning people that they maybe duped. take it how u want to. I don't mind someone warning me of a possible problem.
     
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    My curiosity got the better of me so I checked search to see where these cheap tokens were. Lets just say I am more confused now than when I logged in. Was this thread all one big advertisement? Is this a spoof? I feel had...
     
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  33. Old Vet Back Again

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    I myself am very confused. Especially based on this statement:
     
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  34. Smoot

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    nice troll. if anyone sees that house please report it for harassment.
     
  35. Riyana

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    So. What we have here is zero evidence of duping and an allegation that "a certain guild" must be doing something wrong based solely on who they are. Yeah, we're done here.

    Again, if you have proof of wrongdoing in the game, send it to Broadsword.
     
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