A few initial observations trying to raise the two new Virtues on Test Center. Given the slow gains, I haven't reached Seeker to test the Virtue powers yet... HUMILITY 1) The -70 resist penalty doesn't negate your minimum resists from Resisting Spells. At 120 Resisting Spells, you still have 44% in all resists, sufficient to reduce max spell damage to 40ish even from high skill monsters. 2) Even with high-fame monsters, raising Humility is not very fast. As for Honor, I went for Succubi in the Fan Dancer Dojo. Starting from zero, I gained one dot in Humility approximately every 18 Succubi killed. At this rate it's going to take 180 Succubi just to reach Seeker of Humility. SPIRITUALITY Just casting Greater Heal on people at the bank doesn't seem to work to gain in Spirituality. It seems that you actually have to heal hit points to gain in Spirituality.