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[NEWS] Leurocian wants to discuss pet balls

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Guest, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. Guest

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    As popsted on Uhall:

    Hello Everyone,

    Just letting you know we have been reading your feedback on summoning pet balls, animal form, and pets.

    Some of the suggestions I've seen target reducing effectiveness of one or more of these three things.

    At the moment, I'm more inclined to look at the summoning pet balls first and see if we want to make any changes to it. One of the main suggestions I have seen that has possibilities is to require a reuse timer for the summoning pet balls, and perhaps don't allow them to be used while in animal form.

    Let's try and only discuss pet summoning ball specific changes in this thread. I'd like to gather specific feedback on them.

    Thanks all!


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    Patrick "Leurocian" Malott
    Lead Designer, Ultima Online
    EA Mythic

    Link to Uhall thread
     
  2. I got 1st response! Im the pwn!
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    *smiles* I thought you folks would enjoy seeing that thread.
     
  4. Calibretto

    Calibretto Guest

    About friggin time.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    That was a question asked on the Uhall thread.
     
  6. Azural Kane

    Azural Kane Guest

    The timer would probably span all petballs in your inventory.
    I'm stumped on a real solution to this real problem, though... crafters need not be screwed over during this process.
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    It's so good to see, that Leurocian again is allowed to interact on the forum, it's good for UO and hopeful for Siege too.
    I hope he get time to dig up his old reseach about RoT and tweak RoT too.
     
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    well i bet we get a pet ball casting time, and a pet ball reuse timer. And hopefully that should really [censored] up most of the tamers on siege.
     
  9. Sir Ha-ward

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    well i bet we get a pet ball casting time, and a pet ball reuse timer. And hopefully that should really [censored] up most of the tamers on siege.

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    Hehehe, imagine the crying from the gimps when and if this happens
     
  10. Spree

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    They should make the log in log out to retrive your pet use the same conditions that soul stones have.
     
  11. This is actually the best News ive heard in forever, as I am in process of selling everything i own on this shard and hanging up the towel, it just got old you know! Logging in a loosing a mill bam! that fast to some stupid pet. Real Old!

    seems like were always put on the back burner for fixes and I mean SP as a whole, And after so many years of constant complaining and Begging for fixes and nothing happening, you finally except your fate and move on to bigger and better things....Curious how long it will take em, to resolve this situation?

    kelmo do you have any professional guess? as to what time frame maybe?
    just curious
     
  12. thanks for letting us know!
     
  13. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I am against there being a timer on pet balls, because what i forsee happening is people attacking your pet and luring it away, like they did in the 'old days', leaving you helpless for however long. What i propose is making it more difficult to farm for powders, to encourage people to think twice about using it constantly. In theory, If powders were 'rare' people wouldn't use them as much.
    If there was to be a timer, i feel it shouldn't render you any more helpless than the amount of time someone can be 'disarmed', since my taming skill would be the equivilent of someone elses swords skill. If everyone is absolutly convinced there must be a timer on pets then my finial suggestion would be having a daily timer, rather than a minute timer... meaning you can use your pet ball X-amount of times per day, rather than every 5 minutes. All the complaints i see about the pet balls are how they relate to PvP, but theres more to the game than PvP... if my pet decides to be stupid and continue to attack a bodd after i tell it stop, and it won't stop, i wanna be able to use my pet ball over and over as i try to run and draaaaaaaaaaagg my pet away from from the battle.
    Other things that could be taken into consideration about pets, pet balls and timers would be if the pet is told to attack someone, or if the pet acting defensively because it was attacked first... so like maybe, if i tell it to attack i can't use my pet ball on it, but if it's attacked first then i can use my ball... is the pet being used for pvp, or pvm... if it's being used for pvp, then maybe have a timer on the balls, and if it's pvm, then no timer... ok, now im rambling, i'll get back to this later...
    oh yeah... tamers in animal form shouldn't be allowed.
     
  14. Guest

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    if somone is luring your pets away escape ... pets are for farmign if you are attacked put pet on agressor and run its that simple ...

    what they are doing is taking taming out of pvp and that should have been done long ago...l
     
  15. Guest

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    They should make the log in log out to retrive your pet use the same conditions that soul stones have.

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    Post that!!
     
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    I am against there being a timer on pet balls, because what i forsee happening is people attacking your pet and luring it away, like they did in the 'old days', leaving you helpless for however long. What i propose is making it more difficult to farm for powders, to encourage people to think twice about using it constantly. In theory, If powders were 'rare' people wouldn't use them as much.

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    I'm a tamer mage and I played a tamer mage in the old days... it was always one of my most powerful characters and has been since the beginning of Ultima Online... even when you could do this.

    Honestly if your pet is in that much trouble... run off and summon it.
     
  17. Guest

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    You just said if my pet is in the much trouble, run off and summon it... but isn't that what we're discussing... placing pet balls on a timer so you can't summon them at will, due to a timer?
    And yeah sure, i can sacrifice my pet while i 'escape', but i don't want to have to sacrifice my pet for every Tom, **** and Harry who wants to try to lure it away because i'm waiting for my pet ball timer to kick in. That's just gonna cause my pet to lose skills from dying... and that seems counter productive. Sure, i can away... but you can use a dragon slayer wep just as easily.
    I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but i don't see that many suggestions as to how this timer should work, or what the timer should be... so if ya don't like my suggestions, then post something productive.
     
  18. Guest

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    Lol, I think Leurocian's thread touched a nerve. It's already had &gt;1600 views and 192 responses.
     
  19. Scuzzlebutt

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    Oh Em Gee!! Like, what did tamers do before pet balls. It must have been, like, hard and stuff to play this game.
     
  20. Lord_Puffy

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    I agree and if we take our complaints to uhall versus just posting here bitchign and moaning we might actually get somethign done....

    timer on pet balls
    no useing while in form
    form take pet slots
    pets not be able to insta log when crim

    that doesnt hurt anyone in trammel and only effects pvp which is by far a fair balancing patch.
     
  21. <blockquote><hr>

    I agree and if we take our complaints to uhall versus just posting here bitchign and moaning we might actually get somethign done....

    timer on pet balls
    no useing while in form
    form take pet slots
    pets not be able to insta log when crim

    that doesnt hurt anyone in trammel and only effects pvp which is by far a fair balancing patch.

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    yup. this would effectively nerf stealth tamers hard enough to bring them to more 'even' levels, while not destroying the template as a pvp template, imho.
    Even tho i honestly dont think the form taking pet slot is neccessary... but whatever, i just use a beetle anyways so wutz do i carez!
     
  22. Nico-SP

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    I agree and if we take our complaints to uhall versus just posting here bitchign and moaning we might actually get somethign done....

    timer on pet balls
    no useing while in form
    form take pet slots
    pets not be able to insta log when crim

    that doesnt hurt anyone in trammel and only effects pvp which is by far a fair balancing patch.

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    yup. this would effectively nerf stealth tamers hard enough to bring them to more 'even' levels, while not destroying the template as a pvp template, imho.
    Even tho i honestly dont think the form taking pet slot is neccessary... but whatever, i just use a beetle anyways so wutz do i carez!

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    If those things happen there wont be a single ninja tamer on sp because the template will actually take skill...better start changing those templates now boys...LOL
     
  23. nooo, i disagree.
    Those changes arn't that severe assuming the cooldown timer is ~5, maybe max 10 seconds. THats long enough that the victim's remount timer can run out before they dead, but short enough that petballs still usable (and thus, stealth tamer still usable).
     
  24. Rykus

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    [NEWS] Leurocian wants to discuss pet balls

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    *wonders if pets are discussing Leurocian's balls*
     
  25. Spree

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    But do dragons even have balls? I though reptiles laid eggs.
     
  26. Lord_Puffy

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    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

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    I agree and if we take our complaints to uhall versus just posting here bitchign and moaning we might actually get somethign done....

    timer on pet balls
    no useing while in form
    form take pet slots
    pets not be able to insta log when crim

    that doesnt hurt anyone in trammel and only effects pvp which is by far a fair balancing patch.

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    yup. this would effectively nerf stealth tamers hard enough to bring them to more 'even' levels, while not destroying the template as a pvp template, imho.
    Even tho i honestly dont think the form taking pet slot is neccessary... but whatever, i just use a beetle anyways so wutz do i carez!

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    If those things happen there wont be a single ninja tamer on sp because the template will actually take skill...better start changing those templates now boys...LOL

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    Or you wont see many of them outside houses or away from peerless which I can mos def deal with.