I got my first nightmare around 1999 or 2000. I'm not certain to be honest becuase it was so long ago. Anyway I left in 2002 and returned to the game in 2009. Well I was happy to see my Nightmare had waited for me all those years to return. After some time and getting use to stuff i tamed another nightmare and thats what started the pre patch thoughts in my head. First the two have really different numbers infact the old one has no Physical reists at all. The new one does. So a friend told me to try the new pet calc for cu's and one day i put the old nightmare in and it said that the night mares dont have stats as big as my current old mare. Thus started the prepatch and rare stuff. So, are there prepatch mares? Are they even rare? any help would be welcomed as someone wants to buy mine for 100 mill and im too honest to go stealing from people. Here are the stats of the mare. hp 298 str 515 dex 107 int 125 resist Phy 0 blank fire 64 cold 34 poison 38 energy 40 damage phy 40 fire 40 energy 20 base 16-22 wrestling 89.0 tactic 98.7 resist 92.6 anatomy 46.4 magery 39.9 eval 45.2 med 77.6 I dont really train any of my animals except gd which i hunt with and thats how they become trained. I remember always being scared back in the day i would lose my mare so i sat on him around brit bank and even now dont use him. Maybe he is a little trained but not maxed i wouldnt think. Anyway thx for your help.