I'm a big fan of stealth, and have always been when it comes to playing computer games. In shooters, I play sniper. In RPGs, I'm either a thief or I rely on stealth to hunt. In UO, I'm not really interested in stealing from other players (moral issue, even if the playstyle entices me), so that leaves me with PvM stealth. Unfortunally, PvM stealth isn't really... well, good. The char I've come up with, to do the most use in PvM, is the following template: 120 Archery 100 Ninjitsu 120 Tactics 55 Stealth 100 Hide 80 Anatomy 80 Healing 65 Chivalry I'm using Shadow Dancer leggings to get 75 stealth, and I have a bit of LMC and MR in gear for mana support. The good things about this template: I use archery, which in my eyes is the only sustainable weapon skill in PvM. With melee skills, I can do large initial damage with Ninjitsu, but no enemy (non-pvp) of value will go down with that, and against Champ/Peerless bosses I'd be toast. High Tactics and decent Anatomy means fairly OK base damage. I have a bit over 100% DI from items (weapon mod included (resists are all 60-70)), so my average shot does OK damage. I get the goodies from Chivalry that I want for PvM, even if EoO takes a few casts to succeed. I have high enough hide/stealth to efficiently stealth around, and high enough ninjitsu to use all the skills/animal forms I want. All in all - I do fairly well in (group) PvM, and I'm still able to stealth. The bad things: Ninjitsu isn't Bushido. I don't do the same damage as I would have (and formerly did on this char) as an ABC-archer. Healing and anatomy isn't 90/100, which I normally try to have as a minimum. I can fail heals, and even more often res. Archery simply isn't opted for Ninjitsu. 120 Ninjitsu would mean higher damage from specials. No med/focus/resist spells, which ABC has. There are more downsides, but in general - I'm not nearly strong enough to do what an ABC-archer can do, so I have to rely on being in a group to get things done. My questions here is - have any of you ever played a Ninjitsu Archer? What do you think of my template, would you have done anything differently? Have you succesfully played a stealth PvM char? I use a different char for my every day solo PvM, so this char would mainly be used for group raids anyway, but... Since my char isn't opted for PvM, should I consider myself a loot-leecher if I bring it along on raids? (Again, moral issues.) Gear isn't the problem here, I have slayer bows for most situations, and I've only just started to gather gear for a stealth archer. Any input is very welcome here!