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Ninjitsu

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Majesto, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. Majesto

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    how much stealth, hiding and tracking and ninja to hit for 70 DS? or the max damage?
     
  2. gmcbroom

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    Tracking? We actually need tracking to get a high Death Strike? That sux. I'vee gotta hear this too.
     
  3. Lynk

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    To get max DS dmg you need GM stealth, GM hiding and 120 ninja.

    I don't think the level of your tracking matters for deathstrike. I think you just need to have your target tracked. If you are human you can track other people with the base skill from being human.

    I am not sure what the max DS dmg is. On my ninja I just have 80/80 hide/stealth and 115 ninja. I do high 30's, low 40's if I track them. Deathstrike is still effective but you have to use the right template and it can't be the only piece of your offense.
     
  4. Violence

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    To my knowledge, and feel free to correct me;

    To do max damage Deathstrike you need GM Tracking.
    Track your victim for [?] tiles and perform DS on them.

    Your following DSs though will only reach 40, to do max damage again you will need to repeat the Tracking procedure.

    For that matter I am almost certain you need 100 Hiding, 120 Ninja and 120 Stealth, not just 100 Stealth for the max damage without the Tracking procedure.

    Even if I am wrong about having Stealth 120 instead of only 100 it's still a messed up template.
     
  5. Lynk

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    You might be right about the tracking piece, I never messed with it.

    Without factoring in the tracking, DS damage is based on stealth/hide. It goes by the average of your stealth/hiding. So (Stealth + Hiding) / 2 = % of full DS Dmg. I think the full DS dmg is 40 (without tracking).
     
  6. Majesto

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    hmm.. I am not very sure though. There are people doing DS for 45 with 80 hide and 100 stealth. If I had 100 tracking, it is said to add 10 bonus damage, and 100 hiding and 120 stealth gives ds to be 60 damage? i just wonder how do people hit ds for 70
     
  7. AZ-

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    120 ninja 80 hide 80 stealth = 32 DS, 42 with track bonus. (Human JoT is fine).

    120 ninja 100 hide 120 stealth = 52 DS, 62 with track bonus. (<--not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure. I tested a while back and those were the values I got.)
     
  8. Bardie

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    just remember the damage is halved if you are a archer.
     
  9. Lynk

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    Incorrect.

    Publish Notes:

    Death Strike will now cause 50% less damage when using a ranged weapon.
    Death Strike damage cap lowered from 70 to 60.
    Death Strike damage now scales based on the average of Hiding/Stealth from 30% to 100% of normal damage.

    The only time 120 stealth would make a difference was with 80 hiding, otherwise you're better off at 100/100 hide/stealth.
     
  10. Nyses

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    To get a 60 point Deathstrike, you need to track someone for approx. 1 screen, about 17 tiles, then hit them with it, and they then need to move at least 5 tiles.
     
  11. Lynk

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    Correct, and I don't think the level of your tracking matters.

    So the answer is, to do max Deathstrike you need 200 points between Hide/Stealth, 120 Ninja, and the human tracking will suffice, as long as you track them for 17 tiles.
     
  12. AZ-

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    Not true. Just tested on test center. With 120 ninja/stealth and 100 hide while tracked I got ~55 damage. With 120 ninja 100 hide/stealth while tracked ~47 damage. Not a huge difference, but the extra stealth does matter.
     
  13. Lynk

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    I'll test it later, did you track each target the same number of tiles?