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Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Soul Collector, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. AEowynSP

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    Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    Are you seriously that stupid?
    Nice edit!
    Elfstone you are a jackass!
     
  2. Kiwillian

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    Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    Is that Steve Buscemi?
     
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    I think it is! Wow he actualy looks sexy in that cut.
    Hmm You sre thats steve ?
     
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    SP.net was a joke. Gay porn and childish insults is all it ever was or ever will be.
     
  5. Wulf2k

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    Sweet!

    ...Wait, two+ guys or two+ girls? It makes a difference.
     
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    don't forget the cup!
     
  7. kelmo

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    Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    Please do. If an "unmoderated" forum is your cup of tea, go for it. Just watch where you step.

    As for me... when I need to "loosen" up a bit I go hang out in OT:nhb. I am nobody special there... Just ask 'em. *winks*
     
  8. Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    Nope, I have now disabled that forum....indefinately. Because like it or not, I would also have to find moderators for it, I can't be arsed to do it myself and I can't be bothered locating moderators for it either, so it's not available.
     
  9. kelmo

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    *smiles* Shalimar... I am as always a big fan.
     
  10. Roland'

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    Id moderate it for you Shal. :heart: :heart:
     
  11. kelmo

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    *laughs* Modding ain't easy... It will cost you friends. Make enemies of folks that normally would not give a damn. It will cut into your game time. premature balding and erectile dysfunction. In some cases death may occur.

    In case of premature death contact your admin immediately.
     
  12. Roland'

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    LoL kelmo, you have to know my last post on this thread was total sarcasm from me to Shal.
     
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    Oh crap.
     
  14. Wulf2k

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    Hmm. I thought it caused premature dysfunction and erectile balding.
     
  15. kelmo

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    It has to do with viewing all of the epeens... just kinda turns you off.
     
  16. FrejaSP

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    Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    If it cost you friends, I'm not sure this really was friends.

    This sounds like the herd, who always will follow someone, they do not count.

    Sure, it will do that, just like being a guildmaster will. It will cut into your RL time too.

    Sometimes you have to stop up and ask your self if it's worth it.

    I know, you do have alot of friends and alot of respect and trust and so do your fellow mods have.

    People who leave the herd and don't fear to stand alone and have an opinion will always get alot of both positive and negative response.

    Some like to hide in the herd and never risk to be singled out, others do not like to be a nobody.

    You Kelmo is not a nobody, you are a Siege Legend :)
    Would you really want to be a nobody?
     
  17. kelmo

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    Freja... You made my day. Remember you brought me here.
     
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    Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    Yes and I count you between my friends.

    I learned who is real friends, when I had a kind of breakdown a few years ago and did some crazy thing.

    You was there for me.
     
  19. kelmo

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    *smiles* Always. You and I might not be the best at "Siege". We do bleed Siege when we are cut. It is folks like you and I and so many others that make Siege what it is. The list is very long.

    The flavor of the month guilds... well. they are what they are.
     
  20. Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    Absolutely Roland, if I were ever to make SP.Net a forum for dishonest schemes, you'd be one I'd contact.
     
  21. Roland'

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    Hook, line and sinker.
     
  22. kelmo

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    *laughs*
     
  23. kelmo

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    Roland you made that bed.
     
  24. Roland'

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    I still think its hilarious.

    Untill Diablow I never had a reason to be Dr. Evil.

    The Shredder: "It feels so good, to be so bad!"
     
  25. kelmo

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    Laugh away... I hope it was worth it. For you.
     
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    don't worry about it Vortex, I don't suffer from either of those problems.




    of course the fact that I'm female might have some small bearing on that :lol:
     
  27. Roland'

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    Agree or disagree. He deserved it ten times over. No one knew me outside the alliance and I never did business with many people. The people I do know and do trade with trust me, out side that circle its just people I know through pvp. Seeing as im a no name in the community im the perfect person to do the crime. If stealing from a thief is a crime that is.
     
  28. Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    Just because he deserved it doesn't make the act righteous, some people see your retaliation as more of the same and the cycle continues.

    Dbag-tbagger definitely has claimed and won by an overwhelming majority the coveted 'biggest dou-che on the shard' award at the present time. The saddest part is: there's always someone else vying for it.

    And theft is theft, whether from the virtuous or the vile.
     
  29. Wulf2k

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    I think EA should give these sorts of people an outlet.

    Give lizardmen an AI capable of browsing the forums and arranging trades, and people can gain in their board-scamming skill in a productive manner.
     
  30. Roland'

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    I LoL'd
     
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    If he gives the ill-gotten gains up to a desrving party then I will consider it act of robinhood roleplaying and his debt to Siege society paid; debt to Diablo be damned. Noone owes that guy anything but a good swift kick in the teeth.

    I know what he did is wrong. Hell, the thought crossed my mind to do the same thing with my inactive Tib "red parry mage" account but I decided it would not be worth it as I learned years ago that ****ing oevr a guy that 80 percent of the shard hates can still damage your rep and put you into a deep, dark hole you gotta work hard to climb out of. I doubt I'm the only guy who thought it though; Roland just made the mistake of acting on it.

    It's just real hard to conjure any sympathy for the repeat offending victim here and sometimes..that's enough to get someone off.
     
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    I would love to mod it.;) PM me
     
  33. Roland'

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    I agree with tibs.

    And so you all know. The money went to very important needs.

    Diapers and cat food. I missed meat, the cat was getting all of mine.
    Seriously beef stew without the beef is just thick vegetable soup.
     
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    Those needs kinda solve each other, if you think about it.
     
  35. Roland'

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  36. Re: OT: This place is ran by Shalimar, come check it out...

    So where does it stop? Can I assume you'll be backing me when I scam the next Wyrm out of x Million or whatever because I don't like the way he kills and dry loots NEW? So some scams are now 'ok' but other's are not? I think we need to create a new word for the 'ok' scam because it's going to get confusing...

    Allow one person to do a wrong in the name of justice and you open the door. It should have been slammed shut.
     
  37. Roland'

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    Killing people in game and dry looting them is so far from getting on ICQ making deals taking money and not producing goods or services is so far from the same thing. Honestly come back with a real arguement please. I mean this with all due respect. Just making a point.
     
  38. kelmo

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    Lot's of good posts today.
     
  39. Roland'

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    I cant believe you agree with that.
     
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    I get what you are saying but really your analogy does not match what happened.

    Scamming Wyrm because you didn't like how he killed you in game is simply scamming Wyrm and is readily viewed as detestable.

    Scamming a scammer on the other hand does not quite evoke the same revulsion in alot of people. I can sit here and say "yea Roland was wrong" and have no real desire to set right that wrong via "siege justice" whereas in both Obi and Duke's case I felt ashardwide beatdown was necessary.

    I honestly still feel I can trust Roland in a face to face transaction.
    The difference here is Roland is a guy who made a mistake and probably will not ever engage in this behavior again. Diablow, on the other hand, is habitual and beyond redemption; any act of contrition directed towards him is a wasted effort and serves no greater good whatsoever.
     
  41. kelmo

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    Believe what you wish. I will too.
     
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    MY posts were better!:):lick::gun::D:hug:
     
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    Yeah... road to hell. good intentions. all of that.
     
  44. Roland'

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    Much more articulate, but exactly what I meant.
     
  45. Roland'

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    The real world doesnt revolve around the saying my supervisors at work use to motivate me Kelmo. Im sure you agree with this as well.
     
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    Can you really earn your way into hell by kicking a guy named Diablo in the balls?
     
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    Only if he falls onto a box full of puppies.
     
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    I have less problem with what you did then the fact that you lied to everyone about it and dragged others down your road causing them to lie also.
     
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    I want to further clarify my position on this;

    I think Roland should give the 15 mil to Orbi.

    Roland owes a debt to Diablo who in turn owes a debt to Orbi.

    Roland would make any necessary amends due Diablo by covering his debt to Orbi.

    If Diablo had not scammed Orbi i would say the only road to an amends in this situation would be for Roland to return Diablow's gold to Diablo; this is not the case.

    I experienced a rl situation like this 10 years ago and a Judge ruled in my favor. my exwife and I swapped custody of our daughter every week. I payed her child support and covered my weeks of daycare; she was to cover hers as per the divorce agreement. She failed to do so resulting in me gettign hassled over her debt. I consulted my lawyer, and was told to pay the daycare, take the cost off my child support check, and keep damn good records of all of the above. My ex-wife, of course, drags me into court on failure to pay child support charges. I produce all my checks, receipts, and divorce/custody pappers, the judges reads over them for maybe 5 minutes and rules in my favor. Pretty much I payed my debt to her by covering her debt to the daycare center. That is what needs to happen here with Roland and hes done all he can do.

    He will have admitted his wrong and made it right. Diablo is the one who opened the door for not ever getting his 15 mil back by scamming Orbi.

    This solution, in my opinion, is not at all morally ambigous and leaves Roland in the clear as far as the scam. the lying to his friends and whatnot is something between them and that is where that topic should remain imo.