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Now vs Then

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Guest, Jan 29, 2007.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I was looking at a thread just now where someone is looking for an 'uber cleaver'. Some changes that have come over the years are a bit more than strange. Massive halberds are tossed into the smelter, while kitchen utensils are prized weapons...?? What the heck??

    I'd like to hear some old timers pull out some juxtapositions between how the game is Now and how it was Then:

    Now: Halberds suck. Cleavers rock.
    Then: Cleavers sucked. Halberds rocked.
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Lumberaxer's were awesome, one hit or two hit kills!
     
  3. Now: Crafters are pretty much worthless...
    Then: Crafters were the ultimate source for all your combat needs.
     
  4. LizzyT

    LizzyT Guest

    Now: The game has no bases for where the heck you are (Asians, Elves, etc)
    Then: The game was based in more of a feudal Britain, with knights being the shizzy
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Now : I suck at PvP.
    Then : I sucked at PvP.
    Nice to know some things never change.
     
  6. Grot

    Grot Guest

    Then a person could wear platemail, accepting a dex penalty because it was worth the extra protection. People killed you for the valorite/verite stuff, but generally left what they didn't need.

    Now, we all wear some sort of leather armor. Plate is basically useless, valorite/verite is the only stuff worth wearing at all. People chop up your armor if they don't need it.
     
  7. Then: Britain was the Hot Spot
    Now: Luna [​IMG]

    Then: Demon Bone Armor
    Now: Only a Savage would be caught Dead in any Bone Armor

    Then: Tamers had Several Dragons in tow riding a Mare
    Now: A Rune Beetle/Bake or a Cu

    Then: All you needed was a Vanquishing or Power Weapon and Magery
    Now: Spell Damage/Hit Low Def/HCI/SSI/DI

    Then: Blacksmiths could be found at your local Forge for armor repair
    Now: Smiths/Tailors can be found in every House or on a Deed

    Then: 7X 100 was something
    Now: 6X 120 or 100 Combinations

    Then: Spell Reflection did what it said
    Now: Not so much

    There are a few off the top of my head [​IMG]
     
  8. A few more...

    Then: You could find 30+ People in Shame
    Now: Where's Shame?

    Then: Silver Weapons were for Undead, and if a Player E-Bolted you while you had it Equiped.... 00Oooo00OO
    Now: Undead Slayers

    Then: It took several crosshealing characters to kill a Dragon, usually hugging the entrance for a quick get away in case of disaster.
    Now: 1 Bushido Paladin and 3 hits= Dragon Loot
     
  9. Quentico

    Quentico Guest

    Then : You needed an ID wand or the Item Identifcation Skill to find out what, if any, special properties an item had.

    Now : Everyone can see the properties of an item just by looking at it; and the purpose of having Item Identification listed as a skill to train is...?

    Then : Magic Resist actually "resisted" major offensive spells like flamestrike or energy bolt; sometimes resulting in no damge, sometimes making the spell less damaging...

    Now : Evasion resists more offensive spells than magic resist now and the player never gets damaged.
     
  10. HalfDead

    HalfDead Guest

    Now: UO is what it is.

    Then: I remember times when I would miss really important deadlines cause I couldn't pull myself away from the game. I miss those days [​IMG]
     
  11. <blockquote><hr>

    Now: UO is what it is.

    Then: I remember times when I would miss really important deadlines cause I couldn't pull myself away from the game. I miss those days [​IMG]

    [/ QUOTE ]
    I was like that when i came back last winter (as in dec 2005), managed to only miss RoT two days till Daan's first template was done (at the end of march), christmas day, cos I was at my parents all day till late, and new years day cos I was very, very hungover [​IMG]

    *edit* and also the first time i played, when i thought i was hallucinating from playing too long just after a mammoth farming session to buy my first boat and sailed past the cove orc fort. Those Orc Brutes are huge! lol. [​IMG]
     
  12. Pyrite_DTA

    Pyrite_DTA Guest

    Then- the economy was based on the price of ingots and the number of ingots it took to make gm archer suits.

    Now- the economy (if you want to call it that) is based on the price of gold on ebay.
     
  13. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Now
    The roads of Britainnia is rarely used and there is very little danger from traveling them.

    Then
    Lonely and weak players would seach in the forest and traveling in the shadow of the trees, the roads was camped of brigands and thieves and very dagerous to use.

    Now
    Shops are rarely found away from moongates and large npc towns

    Then
    There was alot of shops everywhere in player towns and near roads. The shops was selling everything a PvPër would need.

    Now
    You need expensive gear to PvP

    Then
    All you needed was a gm made suit and weapon, maybe some arrows, pots, bandages or regs. All was very easy to replace and cheap
     
  14. Aikaeli

    Aikaeli Guest

    To counter the tide of lamentation, I should say that my GM mage on Atlantic (one of the first - just a few months into final) was worth over $1000 ON EBAY. Now my 6x120 mage has no chance at that value, even with many stones.
    But yes... everything is ****e now; we all miss being indistinguishable from each other once variously "gmed"; blah, blah; et cetera.
     
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Then: Skinning common animals gave you furs - and were effectively worthless
    Now: A fur is "worth" hundreds of thousands of gold

    Then: True-black
    Now: Neon

    Then: Heavy crossbow bolts that would follow you all over Sosaria
    Now: Stealth archers who will follow you all over Sosaria

    Then: Jumping into other people's field spells
    Now: Ninja/animal form flag exploit (ok so it's fixed:))

    Then: All night tailors
    Now: All night tamers
     
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    To counter the tide of lamentation, I should say that my GM mage on Atlantic (one of the first - just a few months into final) was worth over $1000 ON EBAY. Now my 6x120 mage has no chance at that value, even with many stones.
    But yes... everything is ****e now; we all miss being indistinguishable from each other once variously "gmed"; blah, blah; et cetera.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I remember meeting a grandmaster lumberjack... I was impressed. That meant ALOT of trees back in the day!

    Just thought of another one..

    Then: Tab-tab-Hide
    Now: Stealth/Hide/Smoke-bombs
     
  17. Quatir

    Quatir Guest

    Then : I remember Vas Flam and Int was all that was needed to pvp
    Now : You need uber items 720 skills to even consider not runing.

    Then: I was waiting at vesper bridge talking to people and stealing their keys
    and after that rob their place , sometime they caught me some other times i could succesfully hide and sometime i even robbed the guy during a month. but it was all fun because 1 robbery meant about 8000 to 15000 loss wich could be remade during a day hunting not 10 days farming doom 24/24 7

    Now: you got to play siege perilous to even enjoy stealing and even that means buggin more the people off then anything and you cant really steal anything valuable or have any fun , so your stuck stealing crappy bitmap in a dangerous dungeon hiding from dumb AI wich killed the profession.

    Then : I placed trapped box at vesper bank on the floor and could loot the guy Dry because he was grey ( not good or evil )

    Now : your either Red or Blue.

    Then : i remember murdering people in mass , dismembering my kills and cooking them after that casting incognito walk to vesper bank and give cooked human pieces to passer by and getting wacked by the guards after 3-4 minutes and then have a big crowd encircle my corpse chop my head and collect the bounty , having justice done.

    Now : The murders talks somehow funny like they got their mouth loaded with potatoes , like STfu NooB we pwned jo() and the guards dont even bother anymore.


    Then : Uo was simple , fun and original.

    Now : Uo is simple , takes alot of knowledge to master , and copy the latest mmorpg in vogue or to come.



    * can go on for hours
     
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Then: Gating balrons into the bone-knight room from Hythloth
    Now: Herding beetles to moongates

    Then: Deathrobe thieves at the bank, thug-thieves on the roads
    Now: Psst... wanna buy a bowl of fruit?

    Then: Cutting bandages one at a time...
    Now: Cutting a stack cloth into a stack of bandages

    Then: Britain
    Now: Luna

    Then: Guildstones
    Now: Ronin?

    Then: Counsellors in blue
    Now: ...

    Then: Tent-barricades around the front door
    Now: Private houses

    Then: Britain crossroads, later City of the Dead
    Now: Lunacy

    Then: Bank runs
    Now: Bags of sending

    Then: GM spirit speak meant you were a hardcore roleplayer
    Now: GM spirit speak means you are looking for a 20 SS powerscroll
     
  19. SavannahSP

    SavannahSP Guest

    Then: Cutting bandages one at a time...
    Now: Cutting a stack cloth into a stack of bandages
    ---

    Yeah, and sometimes this can be a major oops. 6,500 bandages??? Or, my favorite ... Bod cloth bandages? Noooooo...

    -Sav.
     
  20. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Then: EA staff members were always in the world, building pvp arenas fountains etc. and blessing things in huge player run towns, visits from GMs to shards to interract with players were often and plentiful. We had even oft active in game human beings playing pixel roles of rulers over the world like Lord British and Lord Blackthorn even.

    NOW: You are number 3000 in the que, check websight blehbleh.com and the lights are on but nobody is home in the once alive player run towns fel side and in the palaces of our Lords.

    And ..have a good day.
     
  21. Quatir

    Quatir Guest

    Then : Placing a small blacksmith (shop) House on the top of your Tower wich was the safe spot to stash vanquishing and invulnerability items.
    Now : Plots

    Then : Hating Great Lords Or Dread Lords because they meant the ultimate in either good or evil.
    Now : Lords are just naked tamers.

    Then: Watching vesper bank with around 90 people lag to death and hear all the time , HEY I SAID THIS 10 MINUTES AGO
    Now: Watching OTF fly and bounce on my screen even tough i got 30 ms ping to siege on a 10 mbit connection.

    Then:Server going down meant massive warfare at brit cemetary , 200 people pvp for 20 30 minutes.
    Now : Server going down means you and the other only other guy afk on the server need to do something else.

    Then: Enjoy your small house nowhere in vesper wood so you can enjoy a new life on another server and have fun chopping wood , making wooden shield and sell them for profit.
    Now: What did you say?

    Then: Losing a house because you lost the keys and the double and couldnt refresh it for 7 days.
    Now :Watching houses ownd by osi for 6 years never collapse.

    Then: watching GM's fight and talk with people spawn monsters so people could have fun when bored , or even watch them fight in Green Lands.

    Now : RIght now playing in europa stole a sigil from minax cant use trinsic bridge because a house blocks it and i just received * Please go read EA website to find an answer , typical copy paste GM message.

    Then: cost of a Tower 35k-45k
    Now : 3 times normal servers 9 times on siege

    Then : owning 390k gold and beign a High Class PKer with 7 houses 2 towers 50 tents 1 shared keep with 1 character not 1 gmed skill and making people jealous.
    Now :Newbies after 4 days own 1 million+ gold

    Then : GM blacksmith were badass friends to have and hanged at a public blacksmith all day earning their living.
    Now : GM blacksmith are characters that never log more then 5 minutes.
     
  22. Grot

    Grot Guest

    Then: Eating a double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries and a shake and losing weight.
    Now: Looking at a McDonalds sign and gaining weight.





    Oh, sorry, forgot you meant in UO.
     
  23. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Then: Newbs with reactive armor scrolls looting leftovers in Deceit
    Now: [young] status characters looting swoops leftovers

    Then: Beating on bone knights at "the wall" in Deceit
    Now: Banging on golems with a %100 poison weapon

    Then: Warrior = Swords/Parry/Tactics/Magery/Resist/Archery/Hiding in full plate mail with a halberd and broadsword
    Now: Warrior = Necrotic/samurai/ninja/something in leather and bunny ears with a cleaver

    Then: Horses were expensive and always sold out so most people went on foot
    Now: Mount-speed warping everywhere, but we have bolas for the win
     
  24. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Then: Eating a double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries and a shake and losing weight.
    Now: Looking at a McDonalds sign and gaining weight.





    Oh, sorry, forgot you meant in UO.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I hear that.

    Then: Women in the office admiring my bulging biceps built naturally from working in the steel mill
    Now: My belly bulging from working on computers, women in the office admiring my knowledge of our order management system :p
     
  25. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Then: House Lynn'Dannae, the Dark Tower, Shadow Clan, UND, Safe Haven and fighting over places that meant something...

    Now: ...
     
  26. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Then: House Lynn'Dannae, the Dark Tower, Shadow Clan, UND, Safe Haven and fighting over places that meant something...

    Now: ...

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Holy Zarquon, it's you!
     
  27. Dawn/Kaisa

    Dawn/Kaisa Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Then: House Lynn'Dannae, the Dark Tower, Shadow Clan, UND, Safe Haven and fighting over places that meant something...

    Now: ...

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hmm now....Luna? lol *sighes*
     
  28. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Then: House Lynn'Dannae, the Dark Tower, Shadow Clan, UND, Safe Haven and fighting over places that meant something...

    Now: ...

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Now: Memories

    Good to see you here, hope more old SP players will come back.
     
  29. Wolf pack

    Wolf pack Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Then: Eating a double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries and a shake and losing weight.
    Now: Looking at a McDonalds sign and gaining weight.


    Oh, sorry, forgot you meant in UO.

    [/ QUOTE ]lol
    Then: tank mages with hallies
    Now: Ninja, samurai, paladin, whatever else, with a clever or kryss.

    Then: having a house meant something
    Now: 18x18 is standard.

    Then: Moongates went to random locations
    Now: who uses the moongates?

    Ok, ill stop there for now.
     
  30. RandAlThor

    RandAlThor Guest

    Then: You had to pay your sub fee to play.

    Now:You can play the old version of UO for free ........
    OH my what ever will I do.
     
  31. Mangar(cws)

    Mangar(cws) Guest

    If Dag is back on Siege i would have to declare war on Canada.

    Then: I found a really good hunting spot.
    Now: Hey Lolz!11! i found this cool script.

    Then:Can you repair this for me sire, i heard your a great blacksmith.
    Now: Where the f*** do i find more blacksmith repair deeds.

    Then: Damnit lost my power katana.
    Now: Just Blessed my radiant steel darkdeathmoonblade of asia , 254 hit lightning, 654 SSI.

    Then: Hmm what sort of armor to wear.
    Now: Buying bunny ears and flaming feet(sorry castor , but it is ugly)

    Then: That guy over there is a great assasin, he stealths around takeing pot shots.
    Now: That guy over there doesnt have a stealth tamer, he doesnt stealth around takeing pot shots, what a newb.

    Then: Im a stun heal mage.
    Now: Im an elf samurai ninja assasin mage. So be wary.

    Mangar
     
  32. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Mangar, it is very good to hear from you.

    Then: Getting schooled by Mangar in duels
    Now: Wondering why these potty-mouthed kids aren't in school.
     
  33. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Well dayum...look who's posted here. [​IMG]

    THEN: Dagashi and his tales on the forum here &amp; he and his TAXmen come a calling and ya paid taxes or ye oft went OoOO


    NOW: really dull Siege without TAX

    [​IMG]
     
  34. Spree

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    Having a Macer fencer using a war hammer to beat them naked then using a DP kriss to kill them.

    And my TOWNIE
     
  35. Then: Thieves and mad bombers scattering in a wild, blind panic away from Vesper Mint if someone lit a campfire, lest they pick up Camping skill by proxy

    Now: Skill locks, Stat locks, lock locks.
     
  36. Quatir

    Quatir Guest

    Then : Space guy on siege board saying space stuf about space captain picard Pew pew pew saying he will invade space station everyday , roleplaying the weirdest guy i ever seen on this board.

    Now : Wondering what happened to that guy last of his post here date from 4 years ago.
     
  37. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Completely off topic (before going to bed) but
    Dag, are youplaying again? Is TAX back?

    Sorry been a bit out of the loop with the twins and all

    Now: No life, no me time (except at 130 am)
    Then, all life, all me time (with some Grot in between)

    Now: UO for an hour or two every few days (if I'm that lucky)
    Then UO for 20 hours + straight

    Now: I loot little to nothing from player corpses (didn't earn the rights to)
    Then: I looted what was left behind because I could and I wouldn't turn grey and darn it I needed those precious things more then the guy that died.

    Now: instanced corpses and dungeons (peerless)
    Then: loot stealers (theives)

    Now: Theives are weak and meager
    then: Disarm theives ruled the roost and some times if they were lucky got a hold of your ethy.


    Good night all
     
  38. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Mangar??? Dag??? This is one of those side-effects the doctor warned me about, isn't it? *pokes at small braille print on pill bottle*

    Then: Cutting someone's head off and locking it down to brag about it.
    Now: Kelmo's and Dor's padlocks.

    Then: "Please can you make me some GM katanas? I'll pay well."
    Now: "You have blacksmithing? That's like, taste ID and camping, isn't it?"

    Then: Being constantly on guard, expecting to be attacked at every swing of the pickaxe or shovel, even while mining in the middle of nowhere.
    Now: Getting a murder count an hour after you grew bored with talking to an AFK macro miner, decided to hit him to see if he was actually there, and then took over his ore spot.

    Then: Finding all the 'good' ore spots were camped by miners and PKs.
    Now: PKs are too afraid to leave the general vicinity of Luna.

    Then: Meeting many, many, many people, good and bad, out on the roads.
    Now: "I can't have magic resist in my template because then I'd have to give up magery, and I'd have to walk everywhere!"

    Then: West Brit Bank and Moonglow were crawling with people. Getting a rez was easy. One or two folks RPd ghosts.
    Now: The ghost cam population is catching up with the player base.

    Then: I was sane.
    Now: Quick! Hide the mongbats! The treacle! The giant green llama!