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Old player, New tamer.. Be kind

Discussion in 'UO Tamer' started by startle, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. startle

    startle Siege... Where the fun begins.
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    OK, here's my situation...

    Been around since '98 with lots of playtime with mages, bards, swordsmen, craftsmen - but never had a Tamer! ( I know that's hard to imagine, but that was left to a friend, keep reading... ) Recently, my old friend (in RL and UO) had to leave the game and left me her account. She had a Tamer (her main and fav char) that I've "inherited"...

    I have another player on one of my old accounts that I want to train Discord on (Legendary Bard the "hard" way, with Peace but no Discord) and need access to some Cu Sidhe for him to train on, so I thought - "Hey, I'll just pop over to Twisted Weald and tame a few"...

    Well, that didn't go so well because I OBVIOUSLY don't know what the h*ll I'm doing here. As soon as I tried, the silly dog killed me (not to mention the other nasty critters around that turned into "me" - LMAO here)...

    Soooo... I thought I'd turn to you pro's here and see if any of you would offer some kind advice on the things I'm missing.

    Namely - why did the Cu Sidhe kill me when I tried to tame him? Oh, almost forgot.. This char's Taming is 111.7 (jeweled to 120), Lore is 115 (naturally) and Vet is 102(jeweled to 115)...

    I have access to several SoulStones...

    All help appreciated and all nasty comments ignored... :)
     
  2. Wenchkin

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    Ok, with cu sidhe, you usually anger them when you start to tame. Sometimes you can get an attempt or two in which doesn't anger the pup, but mostly you will. "You seem to anger the beast!" is an understatement :D

    Firstly, get yourself set up with some macros - [use skill animal taming->last target] as a basic taming macro and also have one for casting heal and targetting yourself (rather than 2 seperate macros). I have one for invising myself too, because invising while you're taming a beastie will temporarily stop it targetting you. FC/FCR will help you cast these spells during a tame attempt - you don't want to freeze on the spot with an angry pup nipping your heels.

    Secondly, for bigger spawns you ideally want good resists on your armour so you're protected from the main attacks of your chosen pet. For magic pets I add orange petals, but with cus the main thing is the bite and that bleed attack. I wear hit point increase armour and bless myself to raise my hps up as high as possible - more hps means you may survive an extra bite. And when your new, you need all the hps you can get lol.

    Now, I'd suggest you try a bit of lead taming away from the dangers of the werld - dire wolves are good practice, you'll notice if they bite you but you shouldn't die before you know what hit you. Practice casting while they're tagging you and see how far away you need to be to cast safely. You need to get used to walking just out of reach of the pet's teeth n claws, and keeping that distance as you walk steadily.

    When you get to the cu sidhe you'll hold down that tame last target macro constantly while you walk in front of the cu, basically trying to break through the "you seem to anger the beast" messages and start to tame the critter. Hence why you want to get the walk rhythm practiced - you'll be walking, holding the macro and negotiating terrain and avoiding monsters when you start with cus :D

    I started off taking a cu to the entrance at the grassy area, then I could retreat through the sparklies if I was low on health and bleeding. Eventually you get good at distancing yourself before you cast heals etc, but the sparklies are a lifesaver when you start out :)

    Hope that all makes sense!

    Wenchy
     
  3. Lefty

    Lefty Lore Keeper
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    I am in the same situation, old player, new to taming. I should of made a tamer back in the power hour days, but didn't.

    I was under the impression that you had to subdue a Cu for a better chance to tame. Did I hear Wrong?
     
  4. Wenchkin

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    When cu sidhe first came out you had to beat them down and subdue, but they changed it so you can tame one straight off :)

    Wenchy
     
  5. I would also suggest getting your honour as high as possible and honouring yourself just before you start the taming attempt.
     
  6. IgorBR

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    How do I raise honour? I searched all over stratics and didn't find how.
     
  7. inareverie85

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    I wouldn't recommend using Honor to tame creatures that don't cast and are easily lead-tamed like Cu Sidhes and Hiryus. Someone in the thread mentioned making a tame last target macro, and that is your best friend when taming these little guys :) Once you "Anger the beast", they are going to follow you, attempting to give you a big bloody bite on the bum. Move forward, always staying just out of nipping range (a tile or so ahead), and keep pressing that macro. Once you get the rhythm of it, you'll be taming them as they follow you all around, without getting bitten. :) Just be careful of the terrain!

    Honor is much more useful when taming things that cast at you a lot, like Greater Dragons.

    In order to farm honor, you should make an Invoke Honor macro. Honor your target before killing it, and you will gain in honor. Your gains are proportionate to the amount of fame that the creature gives. Your gains also depend on whether or not you allowed the monster to hit you first. Being hit first means more honor gain :) You can check your honor status on the circle of virtue on your paperdoll, and once you acquire Follower of Honor, you should be set to tame anything you like. Just be ready to book it when "You no longer embrace your honor", or you'll be in for a nasty surprise. :)
     
  8. inareverie85

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    Forgot to mention, in order to use the honor you've gained, you need to Invoke Honor and then target yourself :) That sets off a timer during which you are not attacked by monsters unless they were aggressive to you prior to honoring yourself :)

    Hope that helps!
     
  9. startle

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    Thanks Wenchy so much, and you too inareverie85.... It's embarrasing to say you're an "old" player that never tamed anything, but here I am. And I appreciate it that you gave good solid advice, without the "smirks"... :)

    I'm going to give it a go tomorrow (I don't get to play everyday, still having to actually work in RL :(

    I'll let you know how it went...
     
  10. Farsight

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    Don't be embarrassed. I was 9 years in and out of UO before I actually started taming, and I only started because I found a mispriced advanced character token.

    Anyhow, good luck with that! Always fun to try something new.
     
  11. startle

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    You're right, Farsight, trying new things in UO is fun (and often, humiliating) - which is as it should be... :)
     
  12. jeza

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    The very good thing with Cu's is that once the anger is broken they're totally non aggressive toward you. Just remember that when you're under a bleeding attack they'll re-target you as long as you get damage from it, so better go back in the cave and wait for the bleed attack to stop.

    My easy tactic to tame them is just a macro : tame stored (and i store the cu i want) followed by peace self.
    With 100 peace ans 110 music I never fail the area peace and they don't have time to get angry before the peace is casted as it's much faster than casting a spell:)

    So i just go near the pet, lead him near the entrance just in case, for that i just make one taming attempt, it angers the cu so he follows and when I'm where I want it I cast area peace and then just spam my tame/peace macro.
    I don't even have to move other than to follow the critter if he wanders but if I'm spamming the macro fast enough, usually he doesn't have time to move.

    Don't know how this would work in the 2D client though.
     
  13. startle

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    Very interesting concept... I will try it, thank you jeza :)
     
  14. [JD]

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    Para tame and sick it on Swoop if it's a junk cu when you're farming for a good one.

    Method:

    Paralyze
    Begin spamming tame
    Cast invis
    As soon as it says you begin to tame, invis
    If you have too many failures, invis
    Once tame, attack Swoop or another cu with the junk cu and let it die
    loot gold/bandages and repeat til a good rated cu or favorite color spawns

    Don't para tame if you want to KEEP the cu. it causes extra stat/skill loss

    lead taming is best for cu, though it takes a bit of practice. i honor tamed my first nice cu or two but once i learned the lead taming tactic i just used that. you can also beat a cu down, when its at low health it walks even slower and makes lead taming all that much easier. but they self bandage so that often is not worth it

    taming cu's is fun and addictive...
     
  15. Amber Witch

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    Thanks for starting this thread. I have a 12 year old tamer and I learned some new tricks!
     
  16. jeza

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    Well I'm only a 4 years old tamer but I too learned a lot, and here are some discoveries I did yesterday when using the honor taming tactic for the first time :


    Don't forget to lead the pet you want to tame in a "safe" place (very far from other mobs) because even if the mobs wont be aggressive toward you they'll attack your freshly tamed pet.
    I was very lucky because my pet was a GD and the 2 others were only dragons so they died fast, but it gave me quite a fright !

    Be very sure that none of the mobs around have aggro you before using the honor virtue. If a mob has already aggro you when you cast honor self he'll continue to be aggressive afterward. If possible cast invis before using honor.

    Be very careful to stay 2 steps away from the pet you're taming or to carry a bow without arrows to avoid attacking it when your attempt at taming him makes him angry. He wont attack you thanks to the honor but you will and that breaks the peace.

    hope this will help others :)