(this turned into a bit of a long read, sorry guys! TLR = can you check out my template idea near the bottom and give it C&C please?) Hiya guys. I've played since 1999 if you ignore some of the glaring gaps in my sub, but my account is still some 84 months old. I last played in 2010 for 10 months or so and I easily turned my old dexxer into a sampire and sorted out a few other characters, got into doing some champs and such, made some money for some decent suits and then eventually stopped playing again. I came back a month or so ago and I'm not really feeling my old characters. I can't seem to get to grips with my ABC archer, I tore up my tamers template (had been working towards an eval/mage/necro tamer, decided that sucked but can't think of ways to improve it) and miasma gets pretty boring on the old sampire. I looked at making a thrower but decided I didn't have the money to do it, even though people seem to suggest it as being pretty uber pvm these days and my mage/Thunter is feeling a little stale, though I love that character. Anyway, I decided that I'd like to try skills that I've never really dabbled in which are throwing and mysticism. I kinda talked myself out of throwing for the time being as I don't think I can afford a whole combat suit and don't want to butcher my sampire or ABC suits for parts. So I came up with an idea and wondered what people thought?? Magery 100 (115 with scrappers) Meditation 80 Provocation 90 (120 with jewels) Discordance 90 (120 with jewels) Music 120 Mysticism 120 Focus 120 720 cap. reasons for this are because I already have the suit with the scrappers and jewels from my Thunter mage character and will just use the same character... I'm thinking I can soulstone off the carto/lockpicking/120 med and start working on mystic/focus/80 med. Is this going to be an effective pvm template? How far could it go? I'm only likely to be playing solo/duo unless I manage to find a guild that'll take me. Also, is the 80 meditation worth it? I wonder if there's something else I'm missing that might be a better choice? I figured probably not, and everyone loves mana, right?