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OMG NEW FICTION....woopie...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by puni666, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. puni666

    puni666 Slightly Crazed
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    I'd rather hear the list of things they're working on adding/fixing with the game. There's been tons of ideas and questions asked... and then MONTHS of no responses on anything productive in the works. Even if it's not for months to come lets us know what's going on.
     
  2. GalenKnighthawke

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    Fiction is UO's glue, always has been. It's the boundaries and limitations of the sandbox, and in a sandbox-type game, more than anything else fiction gives meaning to what the characters do. Quests are nice, I like quests. But at the end of the day it's the fiction, and little else, that really defines the meaning of what goes on inside UO.

    Changes to the game mechanics, by contrast, will always please some and **** off others; both the content of the changes and the mere fact that they are being made at all.

    They are to be praised, not criticized, for keeping up the fiction.

    Not to mention that the dichotomy you present, fiction vs. changes in the game, is a false one, as false as the dichotomy between competence and communication a dev team member snarkily implied recently. If not more false than that.

    -Galen's player
     
  3. Viper09

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    The dev admitted to be very busy with work stacked up...
     
  4. Fink

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    Clearly something's afoot.

    I would take new fiction to mean "we've been working on new content but it's a surprise". I wouldn't think the one precludes the other, rather preludes it.
     
  5. puni666

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    You can keep your glue. I'm still going to pay no attention to it like I have been since I started playing. I'm only playing this game because it's the (IMO) best group oriented MMO out there for pvp. I for one would like to know how they're balancing things and what they're adding.. so I and many others can give them our opinions of things to come. Sure many things go one sided from people's points of view, but other points of views can show the dev's something that they may have never thought about and can fix/change the initial idea before they implement it to test center for finalizing.

    We might not be ignored by the dev's but it sure feels like it when I hear some story line mumbo jumbo instead of (in my eyes) something useful like a list of things they're focusing on besides new deco and gypsy loot etc...
     
  6. puni666

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    Surprises are what makes people upset imo. Just going "OK here's the changes enjoy!" with out discussion from the player base is just asking for trouble... and inevitably another (more balanced) change.
     
  7. GalenKnighthawke

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    To paraphrase your signature,

    it's a MMORPG it's suppose to be involve RolePlaying ... You want a pure combat game?... go play Counterstrike online.

    -Galen's player
     
  8. Viper09

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    Just because surprises make you upset doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. But there will be a discussion when mr Dev has the time to write out in the next letter. You'd know this if you payed more attention to dev postings.

    Edit: http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1780990&postcount=2

    Developer feed forum is great for finding all postings by devs.
     
  9. Yen Sid

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    Source ftw! ;)
     
  10. Fink

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    I thought you said, "It's surprising what makes people upset", and I was about to agree.

    I don't think we need be worried about sneaky prawns in this case. The fiction is a harbinger of coming events, somewhat cryptic, which is actually the safest type of news from EA. Look at past announcements or lack thereof. When they brag or boast or spew hyperbole about the future of UO, nothing comes of it. When they nerf something horribly, it's totally unannounced. This coy, brain-prodding news is the happy medium.
     
  11. puni666

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    Sorry, but a beef up on treasure maps? That can't be the only focus atm.. if so that's sad, and I'll stick to farming pvm crap or nothing till they do something significant. There's not much to be discussed about loot in this game since you can pretty much make anything necessary for your character with imbuing.
     
  12. Viper09

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    Sorry but many other players in this game have been wanting changes to t-maps for a long long time. Ever since AoS t-maps have been crap. And of course that's not the only focus, that wasn't even a complete update letter, just a very short preview hence the lack of details in it.
     
  13. chuckoatl

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    Role Playing originally just meant you were becoming someone in game. People play for whatever reason they want. Don't down on someone cause they play for a different reason than you.
     
  14. puni666

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    It bugs me that they don't even say what else they're working on though. It's not hard to say "this this and this are our main topics at hand. We'll give more details once the major details are worked out." Then that would inspire people to give their insight on the base topics.. giving the dev's veteran player in game details that they could have possibly over looked. Avoiding repeated changes to test centers.
     
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    I play UO for the graphics
     
  16. Viper09

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    There are a lot of stuff they could do. They could just say what they are working on in a list, but then people would just complain about the lack of details. lol
     
  17. puni666

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    That's why I stick to fel. You guys get your little story line that keeps you interested, but what interests me is what they're doing to keep improving the game play. I simply want a broad list of things so I can give my input. I'm sure many other players are also interested in that.

    I'm not really sure why I should play a entirely different game because I'm interested in a different aspect of this game then you.
     
  18. puni666

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    I'm sure they're effective at looking at only the details and ignoring the complaints. I'm sure they have a e-mail box they do that with everyday.
     
  19. puni666

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    Haha don't we all!
     
  20. Beleg Megil

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    OMG puni666 let us know his opinion....woopie...

    The game is apparantly all about what puni666 wants.


    BTW, completely off topic, but does anyone know what the french word for shower is?
     
  21. GalenKnighthawke

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    You should now respond similarly to every single one of the original poster's posts, because what I said was copied and pasted from his signature, just with the sentiments switched.

    Well, go, what are you waiting for.

    Oh, it doesn't count, because the original signature had a sentiment you agree with, whereas mine has a sentiment you don't.

    Well that case, you should respond to your own post, with approximately the same text you used to reply to mine.

    -Galen's player
     
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    Re: OMG puni666 let us know his opinion....woopie...

    Clearly.

    Well, him and his friends and those of his ilk who dominate these boards and try to dominate global chat, but thankfully do not dominate the game.

    -Galen's player
     
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    Re: OMG puni666 let us know his opinion....woopie...

    From what I hear there is none.
     
  24. siyeng0

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    Translation

    This game is all about me, me, ME! I demand that the devs consult me every morning to find out exactly what it is that I want, and devote the best part of their time to doing exactly that, because I am the most important player in this game purely as a consequence of being ME, the centre of the universe! I want PvP! I want PvP! I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT BAAAAAAW YOU'RE ALL STUPID *packs up his toy swords and, hopefully, goes home.*
     
  25. Uvtha

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    No you fool, its its not something directly concerning what HE wants, and thinks is important, then it's a stupid waste of time!
     
  26. Re: OMG puni666 let us know his opinion....woopie...

    lol...I'm not quite sure that's off topic, but... :pint:
     
  27. puni666

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    There's plenty of people that want to know what's going to change about the game play. Why not inform us so we can have a say in it? I'm not saying ME ME ME. It's simply asking for a basic lay out of what's coming next so the people that are going to be effected (which is everyone that plays) can have a say before they just go and slap some changes on us.
     
  28. Viper09

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    Puni, what you think those near weekly developer update letters are? Those update us on what their plans are.

    Your first complaint was because there was nothing about PvP, now you're complaining that they don't update us at all but they in fact do.
     
  29. I partially agree.

    I think at some point they have to put *something* in the game, but I also think they sometimes end up putting something in that most of us weren't interested in. Something like treasure chest loot...all they need to do is enhance the properties of the items and maybe add a small, small chance (1% or so) of an artifact spawn. We don't need a whole new line of artifacts nor do we need a new, far more complicated system.

    I think it's important for publishes involving new skills, abilities, or items to be put on TC for an extended period of time so their uses and potential abuses can be explored. If they are moving forward and making the world a better place to live nobody is going to complain if it takes an extra week or two to make changes.

    If they do, then they're fools. :pint:
     
  30. Fink

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    Dwarf Fortress!