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Online "Friends"

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Guest, Mar 10, 2008.

  1. Guest

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    On many posts, I see people talk about their friends they have made playing UO (and other games as well). Sometimes these friends are refered to very fondly. One persons Sig states the magic of UO are friends, but how can a person be considered a friend if there is no personal interaction (sometimes they don't even talk in vent or TS, just guild chat). I have many people I play with and enjoy their "online company" but can't consider them friends. Just want to know what you guys think.
     
  2. 1 a: one attached to another by affection or esteem b: acquaintance
    2 a: one that is not hostile b: one that is of the same nation, party, or group
    3: one that favors or promotes something (as a charity)
    4: a favored companion

    friend

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  3. Guest

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    Yes I have people I speak to regularly online that I consider friends.

    They offer sympathy when I'm ill, advice when I'm worried, help when I'm in need of it in game, company when I'm feeling lonely and they'll try to make me smile when I'm feeling blue. What more could I ask of a friend?
     
  4. Guest

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    I feel sorry for you then.
     
  5. Guest

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    Perhaps you just don't know what its like to have friends?

    I define a "friend" as someone you spend a lot of time with and enjoy being around. Maybe you just have really high standards?
     
  6. Guest

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    Friendship is an abstract thing. If there is one thing the Internet has made me realize, it's that all those things that bond people together over a common understanding ... it is all merely data. At the end of the day, the communication that binds us could be from across a room or across a continent. What matters is the frequency and complexity of communication, not the means by which it crosses between us.

    For your consideration: I currently have a boss who lives in a different country, who hired me sight unseen and who I've only ever met face-to-face once. Paychecks speak even louder than declarations of friendship [​IMG]
     
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    Yes I have people I speak to regularly online that I consider friends.

    They offer sympathy when I'm ill, advice when I'm worried, help when I'm in need of it in game, company when I'm feeling lonely and they'll try to make me smile when I'm feeling blue. What more could I ask of a friend?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Agreed 100%

    Although I understand what the op is saying. How many times have we heard of someone losing all their stuff to a "friend". But I have people I talk to on a regular basis about many things other then UO. Some people I have met in game don't even play anymore but we still talk and are still friends.
     
  8. Guest

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    Interesting post.

    I consider my 'online friends' the same as in-the-flesh friends. We are only seperated by distance.
     
  9. Kylie Kinslayer

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    I would submit that even talking in guld chat is a form of personal interaction. I do have some people I know in rl who play that I do not consider friends. Yet I have some that I only know as pixels that I consider close friends.

    Having friends without physical interaction is not a new concept. The pen pals of yesteryear have been replaced by online friends. The only difference is now you can correspond in a matter of miliseconds instead of however long it took a postal carrier to deliver the message.

    Welcome to the 21st century.....
     
  10. UncleSham

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    friends are folks who know you and deside to hang with you anyway. hehe

    whether this is face to face . on a telephone across town or online across the globe , i dont see how it makes a differnce.

    ive met poeple on line who are glad to hang with me and even miss me if im gone a few days.

    there are many poeple here i call friends . just cause i'm not phisicly in the same room is irrelevent.
     
  11. Guest

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    I feel sorry for you then.

    [/ QUOTE ]No need to be nasty Flutter. Someone could say the same about you since you have over 10k posts and spend way too much time online. I have plenty of friends thank you.
     
  12. Guest

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    Blind people never *see* any of their friends face to face. They are their friends because they care about each other and communicate and I'm pretty sure any one of them would give you a firm lecture on being small minded if you told them their friendships were inferior.

    Why limit the concept of friendship to something so silly as having to make eye contact with another person to acknowledge their relationship to you?
     
  13. Guest

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    It wasn't meant to be nasty.
    I truly feel sorry for you if you don't have any friends online, there are some fantastic people out there.
     
  14. Guest

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    I've made several friends in this game that are just as close or closer to me that my "real life" friends. It doesn't happen immediately. It takes time. But I DO have interaction with them outside of the virtual world. We talk daily via guild chat, Teamspeak, telephone, etc. Some of them came to my wedding last year. We travel across the country to see each other.

    The one thing I've come to believe is that you can make more close friends actually through a virtual world than you might in the so called real world. In the virtual world, you get to know someone without the "benefit" of age, race, religion, sex, weight or any of the other things that block our relationships when we meet someone.

    I'm not saying this works for everyone but I've certainly been blessed with the online friendships I've made.
     
  15. Guest

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    No need to be nasty Flutter. Someone could say the same about you since you have over 10k posts and spend way too much time online. I have plenty of friends thank you.

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    You must be one smooth criminal to know how Flutter spends all of her time.
     
  16. Guest

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    I'm sorry if I must say I agree with Flutter. I have loads of friends both in game and out of game... some I've met in person some I have not... some I have spoken to either in Vent or over the tele... but some I've only spoken to in game. I concider many folk in game my friend. They are kind, helpful, they spend time with me when I'm bored... They help me find things when I'm searching for stuff... They talk to me when I'm sad, lonely, upset or even when I'm having a good time. I'm glad to have friends in game. I must say I have some VERY good friends online.
     
  17. If you call friend someone who just help you from time to time online, you're the one with a problem.
    If everyone is your friend, nobody really is.

    There are sometimes a person you met online who can considered as a friend, but it'll really become friendship (and more sometimes) when meeting IRL.

    I'm sorry, I like to help people online and all. But I can't honestly care about everybody's little problem. My real friends can count on me. For online people, I feel of limited use.
     
  18. Guest

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    I have to agree with Flutter.
    And my handicapped daughter would be vary disappointed to know because her eye sight is bad and she will never be able carry on a conversation that she can not have friends.
    I have met so many people on these boards and in game that I feel like I have known them for years.
    And it is no less painful to see them leave as it is to see the ones that grew up with move on.
     
  19. DevilsOwn

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    <blockquote><hr>

    4: a favored companion



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    <font color="purple"> I like that one [​IMG] </font>
     
  20. Guest

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    I think there are different levels of friendship. There is the level of friendship where you know you can count on the person to come pick you up in jail at 2am if you get a DUI, and there is the kind of friendship that is simply a feeling that you share many of the same interests with a person and can maybe share personal feelings with them.
     
  21. Guest

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    In the old days...they called them penpals.
     
  22. _Uriah Heep_

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    There is the level of friendship where you know you can count on the person to come pick you up in jail at 2am if you get a DUI,and there is the kind of friendship that is simply a feeling that you share many of the same interests
    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    right on both counts, we BOTH want me out of jail at 2am! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  23. Wisty

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    In the old days...they called them penpals.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Good point.

    I have a "friend" whom I've not yet met face-to-face but have known since 1965 when we both were in h.s. We started out just writing inexpensive aerogrammes, and then letters onto which we made special trips to postoffice to find the most current and prettiest of stamps to affix to the envelopes.

    Then we swapped postcards of our home cities and vacations. And lots and lots of photos. And small gifts. She even mailed me an unhulled coconut, wrapped in cloth, upon which she wrote my address and affixed stamps. Laughed so hard, as did everyone who saw it. I kept it for 20some years before it was time to toss it out. [​IMG]

    Then our first phonecall was in the 70s which was not very succesful (due to Indian lines) and cost a lot. So we tried a few verbal letters on cassette (cheaper than making phonecalls). Years later (and better Indian technology) her job allowed her to make inexpensive phonecalls to me. But it wasn't until around 1999 when the company she works for installed a computerized system, and then 2001 when they included internet connectivity, that she and I could email -- which is sooooo much more convenient, no more totally lost letters/cards or ripped-to-shreds by customs, and no more postage costs. However I miss her lovely handwriting and the stamps and postcards.

    She lives in Pune (also Mumbai), India. She is of the Parsee affiliation, originally from Iran, but many many generations living in India. She has only one son, as do I. Even though we don't have a lot in common as far as hobbies, we get along extremely well. I would say she knows me better than most my family and rl friends, and she has said same about me.

    I almost met her cousin (whom I also wrote to for years) when he/family did a tour of the U.S. But, difficulties prevented a meeting.

    I realize there is always a chance that the person on the other end of this relationship could be impersonating an Indian woman of my age, etc. Though that chance is so very slight. Unlike what I've encountered over the years online (in and out of games).

    Nevertheless I can and have made friends online without ever meeting. They may never go into anything rl, they may even be impersonating. But as long as they treat me well and we have a good time together, I consider them friends -- albeit "online" friends. It's a level that doesn't go any higher until meeting them irl. There are different levels of friendship. Just as there are all kinds of and levels of love.

    For many people, getting to know someone online is a lot more profound than in person, as far as being able to look deep into one's soul without anything blocking the path, a path that is often blocked irl due to one prejudice or another, or shyness, or putting more expectations on appearance than on the pure essence of a person.

    I would enjoy meeting my Indian friend irl before we depart this earth; however if we never do, it won't change a thing. We will continue to be friends to the end, as much for her wanting me here, as me wanting her here. [​IMG]

    She isn't the only "pen pal" I've had in my life. It was a hobby of mine. (I came from a very large family of letter-writing aunts, uncles, cousins.) But she is the one with whom I have most bonded. We've gotten each other through some horrific times in our lives... when no one else could comprehend or even cared to try... we knew we'd always have each other's shoulder on which to cry.

    Also, for people like me with illnesses (I suffered a type of stroke back in my late 30s), communication is easier and sometimes more comfortable online and typing, than in person and speaking (though I still screw up in either direction. lol). I admit, however, it does seem that without being able to physically observe the person's body language, eye contact, and hear the tones of their voice, words sometimes give mixed meanings or don't convey the full content. Though, contrarily, sometimes people's rl actions send mixed messages, too. Which is probably why relationships are at their deepest when you can combine both online (written) and irl, for when one or the other side can't convey precisely what one is thinking and feeling?

    *hands out chocolate chip cookies to anyone who read this far* [​IMG]
     
  24. alyssya

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    -Takes cookie, gobbles it like a lil kid...-

    mmmmmmmmmmmmm.......friend. ;D

    lol

    ~A
     
  25. Guest

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    -Takes cookie, gobbles it like a lil kid...-

    mmmmmmmmmmmmm.......friend. ;D

    lol

    ~A

    [/ QUOTE ]
    lol
    That was a nice story Wisty.
     
  26. Wisty

    Wisty Guest

    [​IMG] How about some lemon sugar ones? I just purchased fresh lemons and a bottle of really nice-smelling lemon extract. Or maybe lemon merangue pie.
     
  27. Wisty

    Wisty Guest

    Thx. [​IMG] I wish my Indian friend could be here to read what I posted about her. I know it'd make her smile. Maybe I'll copy/paste it to her. I'm hoping when she retires and (per our plans) buys/sets-up a pc in her own home, maybe I can coax her into some online gaming, if it's offered in India? Are they? For now she has to use the work pc, so no gaming or surfing the net. It also would involve her learning to really use a pc, since so far it's just the basic work-related word processing and stuff. I do believe her husband and son would LOVE gaming. Her son is a lot more pc savvy, but he's not into gaming, yet.
     
  28. Guest

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    Nah you don't have to know much about PCs to play UO just what to click to get it to start up! LOL!
     
  29. Wisty

    Wisty Guest

    Well, except for installing and troubleshooting. I don't think she's ever downloaded and/or installed anything before. They have special computer guys who do all that. But, true, if she can get it installed, she can learn how to play UO. She's very intelligent. I don't know if gaming would be her forte though? Time will tell. Would be fun! *cracks up at the thought of her and me defending turf, back-to-back* Wished I could have convinced my son to play, but it's not his thing either. I let my g'niece play UO several summers ago when she was living with me, and she loved it. But she has been unable to continue. [​IMG] One day.
     
  30. Guest

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    That was a great story!

    If your friend does decide she would like to play UO or any other games/programs, I'm sure one of us with the knowledge would be happy to make a little walkthrough for installing things. Just need to know her system specs and such. Just a thought, could help make the technical side a bit easier. *smiles*

    Thanks for sharing your experiences....it really makes me cherish the people I've met and talk with daily.
    Sometimes a couple of notes beween friends is a real bright spot in an otherwise cloudy day.
     
  31. Guest

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    I've had this same conversation with family members. I come from a big family and have always loved people. A sister of mine recently asked what the draw is with having 'online friends'. She is a very social woman but just doesn't understand how I can develop relationships with people I have never met. I'll admit that some of it is the anonymity but mostly, I don't have to pretend I'm something I'm not just to impress. My natural nature is to 'mama' people and it's nice to help someone ingame without them thinking I have an ulterior motive.

    I've sent Christmas goodies and gifts to some of my friends on Baja and ask nothing in return. It's a gesture of friendship and I receive immense pleasure in knowing I can share a part of myself with others. These people have become a part of my life. I've cried with them, prayed for them and shared many sorrows over the last couple of years. They're all priceless to me and I can't say that I love them any less than the friends I can drive to see. It's just my nature and it's OK if others don't understand it.
     
  32. BajaElladan

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    I find it helpful, tho not a necessity, that one understands how to "befriend" others first. Secondly, I choose to accept folks as I find them, especially once beyond early impressions and I view them as "friends." Some folks use the term friend, when they really mean acquaintance. Those I call friend, especially honored friends online, I would travel just as far to aid them if travel were required, as for my honored friends I have actually met in real life.

    Opening ourselves up to others may place us in positions to be disappointed, let down, or betrayed, however...not opening ourselves up to others precludes our ever being understood, enjoyed, and loved by others.

    In many ways &amp; things, "real life" and "virtual life" are not really different...merely distanced.

    I have always been able to walk into a room of strangers and move among them chatting with each and everyone there as if I had known them all their lives. Then they cease to be strangers...most are acquaintances when I leave but almost always several have become friends. Often some over time become honored friends.

    Regardless, every now and then when "RL" family &amp; friends are unavailable to me, it is EXTREMELY rare when I am unable to reach an online friend. Even when I accidentally became locked in my basement (more than once) in Columbus, Ohio, I was able to reach a friend in Seattle, WA to phone a sister who came and set me free. Now There's a real online friend!!! LOL

    ***edited to add

    Mama Faith is one I met on Baja within UO. While I "liked" her immediately, I quickly came to "love" her persona. I consider her an honored friend, one who brightens my world(s) even when stealthing through them. Just knowing she is "out there" adds to my happiness &amp; joy. I have been truly Blessed to meet many like "Mama" in UO and elsewhere online.
     
  33. " Friendship is a precious bond, so fragile, yet so strong. It's nurtured by our deeds, and thoughts, and soothes when things go wrong. Friendship is companionship: The joy of sharing fun, of ball games, fishing and gifts we send, that keep us on the run! Friendship also, shares the times when sorrows come our way. To have a dear friend, who really cares makes 'gray days' much less gray. Friendship never can be owned, or chained, or bought, or sold. It's a special freely-given gift to treasure, and to hold. Friendship is a lovely gift, a special gift from God. To bring us happy memories as life's long path, we trod... "
     
  34. Guest

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    When separated from people by distance, and having all contact through indirect means, it does perhaps create greater opportunities for people to deceive one another, and escape accountability, but physical separation &amp; ignorance of one another's physical attributes doesn't inherently have to limit friendship itself in any way.

    As another person mentioned, people have been corresponding through letters for centuries, maintaining lifelong relationships with each other, but never actually meeting.

    -Skylark
     
  35. That was how math and general science developed itself in the 1600's...
     
  36. Guest

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    Also, remember that there are people who got Married within the game, and then got Married in RL. Once in a while you will meet someone who lives in the same town as you do. I know people who used to work at Game stores, and get customers who just bought the game their in game charater names/guild, ect, for them to join up.

    What if an UO event was coming to your town, and you posted you were going to it, because it was close by, and so did someone else on the board, would you maybe think about meeting up with them at the event?

    There is a site called Las Vegas talk. It is a board about Vegas. hehe. But we have, "Meets". People post when they will be in Town, and others post, "Hey i will be there during that time also", and we end up with between visitors/locals of 5-30 people meeting at a Lounge, or Bar in different Casino's. It is Great. You become friends first on the site, and then real friends in person.

    I have met a few people who play UO in real life. Not a single one of them could cast a single level 1 spell. hehe.
     
  37. Guest

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    On many posts, I see people talk about their friends they have made playing UO (and other games as well). Sometimes these friends are refered to very fondly. One persons Sig states the magic of UO are friends, but how can a person be considered a friend if there is no personal interaction (sometimes they don't even talk in vent or TS, just guild chat). I have many people I play with and enjoy their "online company" but can't consider them friends. Just want to know what you guys think.

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    I think it's odd to consider a friend any less a friend because you don't spend significant portions of time hanging out in meatspace together. As for who I would consider a friend...I suppose that would be anyone that I find interesting enough to hold ongoing dialogues with. I never actually tried to formalize the idea before. But I have made friends in game and via Stratics before. And went on to meet some of them in person. There's no reason to draw artificial distinctions between people based on insignificant criteria such as a person's current geographical location; you'll miss out on some good people that way.
     
  38. Guest

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    "Friendship is a term used to denote co-operative and supportive behavior between two or more humans."

    Friendship

    There are varying degrees of friendship. Close confidants, casual and those friends that come over, drink all your ale and steal your wench. *shrugs*

    We each have our own definition and fill our needs as we can.

    There is a time and place for every kind of friendship.
     
  39. Guest

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    I have met a few people who play UO in real life. Not a single one of them could cast a single level 1 spell. hehe.

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    *gasps* Obviously these individuals were n00bs. [​IMG]

    -Skylark
     
  40. i have a good friend from childhood and when i was 11 years old my parents moved our family to nother state. my childhood friend and i have been friends now going on 43 years. we havent seen each other in 20+ years now. but does that make me think of her of any less of a friend? NO. she is my best friend and i can not see my life without her in it. no matter if we see each other everyday, she will always be myfriend even more so like a sister i never had. so some of you might say she isnt in mylife sence i havent seen her in some 20 years. but she is in my life in my heart everyday and in my thoughts. i love her very much and would do anything i could for her and her family..
    i met my husband online 12 years ago. we would stay up all night talkin. playing games and some times talkin on the phone. after 2 years of all that we desided to met in rl. he came from nyc to florida to met me and never left. that was 10 years ago this month. i can honestly say we share a love like no other. i was married once before and this time the love my husband and i have now is way differnt then the love me and my exhusband had. if any of yall can understand what iam tryin say.
    but one thing is all this can only work if each of you are honest. no lies no make up stories to make yourself look good and be something you are not. iam not one to let people in my world. but i have made few very good friends over the years that i have played uo. they been there through good and bad times and sometimes if it wasnt for them i do not know what i would have done.
     
  41. deadite

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    RTLFC

    It all boils down to this I think:

    Q: How comfortable is it to take an RL friend and move to an online space with that friendship?
    A: Extremely simple and comfortable in most circumstances.

    Q: How comfortable is it to take an online friend and move into a RL space with that friendship?
    A: Considerably less comfortable in most circumstances.

    That alone shows the difference between RL and online friends imo. I think that face to face friendships are inherently more intimate (not sexually, ya goofs) than online relationships... although I imagine things like webcams can make up for the difference somewhat.
     
  42. Guest

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    RTLFC

    It all boils down to this I think:

    Q: How comfortable is it to take an RL friend and move to an online space with that friendship?
    A: Extremely simple and comfortable in most circumstances.

    Q: How comfortable is it to take an online friend and move into a RL space with that friendship?
    A: Considerably less comfortable in most circumstances.

    That alone shows the difference between RL and online friends imo. I think that face to face friendships are inherently more intimate (not sexually, ya goofs) than online relationships... although I imagine things like webcams can make up for the difference somewhat.

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    Basically, you have an unknown element in any indirect relationship. Everyone understands that. Discomfort may be caused by revealing the unknown, and then adjusting to it as it becomes known. Most humans are generally apprehensive about that in general.

    The added variable of physical presence can certainly change things too in how we perceive others. Personal habits, (lol including hygiene) behavioral idiosyncrasies, such as vocal inflections, which do not factor into the indirect forms of contact, can be a factor as well as other subtle things that we react to pretty much unconsciously when we meet people face to face. We are physical beings after all, so the physical presence of someone certainly can be important in our relationships, it just doesn't have to be required to have truly meaningful relationships with others or lessen the value of "indirect" relationships.

    There are some valuable aspects to indirect contact as well. I have known a few people that I found distracting in many of their habits in person in various ways, but the same person could command my full attention on the phone or by written communication. Having that indirect contact with them let me discover things about them, and enjoy things about them as a person, I otherwise might have missed out on in our face to face meetings.

    -Skylark
     
  43. Kayne

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    RTLFC

    I have "met" lots and lots of people during my years of being online. I have called plenty of them friends, I have fallen out with plenty of them too some never to speak to again and others who apologies were swapped and we became friends again. Some of those people were with me during rough times and I was with them for their rough times. In general I no longer talk to most of them.

    That to some wouldnt make them my friends but they WERE, I'm a firm believer that everything in life happens for a reason and people are meant to enter our lives at certain times do whatever they are supposed to (not always good things) and then leave again. We then learn from these events in our lives and we grow as individuals. Some of these people have caused me hurt while they were a part of my life, but I got over that and I learnt various things from it and have grown as a person. Fate is a truely spectacular thing and extremely unpredictable something not to be taken lightly.

    As for the people within UO, I have made some wonderful friends while ive played the game, I havent ever met them and i dont suppose i ever will but i share interests with them and talk to most of them regularly and they help me when i need it and offer sympathy or joy when it is needed. That to me is a friend and i truely hope to meet many more people like that while I still play UO and use the internet.
     
  44. Fluffi

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    My UO "friends" fall into three distinct categories:

    1) Those I have met in real-life.
    2) Those i haven't actually met, but regularly correspond with outside of the context of UO.
    3) Those I have only ever had any contact with within UO or on associated fora.


    In terms of "friendship", there is no difference between these three sets.


    The "I have met" group includes the work colleagues who introduced me to online gaming in general, and UO in particular. It also includes the "guildmates I eventually met at a Town Hall meeting", and "people I met at a Town Hall, and liked so much that I made an effort to meet their UO characters."

    The "we correspond outside of UO" group is bigger than the "met" group. I find this is the most interesting group.
    These are people with whom I can have a decent conversation, and whose opinions I find entertaining or thought-provoking. This seems like a good enough definition of friendship to me.
    They know a little about me, and I think I know a little about them.
    Of course, this being the internet, people can present themselves as something other than they are, so the person who says that they are a 35-year-old bloke from London might be an erudite 14-year-old Belgian girl, but it's usually fairly easy to spot the fakes.

    The "no external contact" group is by far the biggest, and are the ones who occasionally surprise me.
    The compassion shown by total strangers; who know nothing of me except my silly little cartoon character, or my ramblings on a forum, can be overwhelming.
    They obviously consider themselves my friends; how could I possibly think of them in any other term?


    I suppose that this entire debate revolves around the definition of "friendship." I know what my defintion of that word is.

    I have lots of friends in UO.
     
  45. SouthernRageLNR

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    Its pointless to quote what friendship means because it does not mean the same thing to everyone. But as far as online friends go, i consider people i talk to in vent every week friends, Matter fact iv met most of these people IRL atleast once as well since my guild has guild meeting once a year. But my closes Online/IRL friend would be a guy iv been pvping with for 5 years now, I met him when i started pvping and we have been in the same guilds over the year and we we pvp, i dont have to ask him to cross heal me or get so and so off me because we have been doing it for so long. Iv had access to all of his accounts and his had access to mine. That is what i consider a real friend even tho iv only met him once irl.
     
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    I find there is a difference with calling someone in game a friend, who i just play a game with, I only consider friends those who i talk about other things besides game related details with. I don't have to meet them, I still know of them as friends though.