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Open letter to Queen Dawn

Discussion in 'UO Europa' started by Irvyn, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. Irvyn

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    *The Duke’s handwritten letter is delivered by urgent messenger to the castle in Britain. Scribes’ copies are pasted on noticeboards across the land and sent personally to Hanse Davion of Vesper and Gendin of the Knights Templar.*

     
  2. Sir_Bolo

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    OOC: I'd like to know more about the Act of Settlement... Was it issued by some OSI Seer in an ancient event, or was it invented by the roleplaying community to justify the Republic of Vesper?
     
  3. Escaflowne

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    OOC: Basically Lord British had already dissapeared (Well when he was killed or whatever lol) when Xel'Naga leader of the Lord British Loyalists, the main Royalist forces at the time invaded Vesper in Lord British's name. This was the Crown of Thorns War, the first big war of Vespers History which was in 1998-1999. After the war a treaty was signed in Spiritwood by Xel'naga and our leader of the time (Sylis Larpet) which recognised our independance. As they represented Lord British, RP wise we assume he was aware of it and agreed to it.

    If your interested in anymore information about Vespers history you can find it on our history thread here:

    http://www.uoforums.com/vesper-recruitment-guild-info/57527-history-vesper.html

    You can also find information on the wars Vesper has been in over the years here:

    http://www.uoforums.com/vesper-recruitment-guild-info/61853-wars-vesper.html
     
  4. She-Man

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    OOC: Sorry to continue this general derrailment of your RP thread, Irvyn. Wasn't it later decided by ERPA's top dogs that Xel'Naga was acting of his own accord?

    From the MoongatesWiki, by Hanse, I believe:
    So the "Act of Settlement" was essentially an agreement between a rogue general - at the head of a paramilitary - and a rogue state. Without the signature of Lord British or a suitable appointee, it's not worth much anyway, because the cessation of land and indeed a whole city doesn't lie within the jurisdiction of an officer or even nobleman, unless that land is his own. Besides which; treaties can, were, and often are ditched when no longer viable. Accepted as Queen by the majority of loyalists, she does have the authority to scrap old arrangements, anyhow.
     
  5. Escaflowne

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    OOC: Perhaps yeah, the Queen can think what she wants. This still doesn't change the fact that Vesper has been an independent state and city for the past 10 RL years :)
     
  6. Floria/Tanya

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    OOC: Surely that has more to do with the fact no one has the power (or right) OOCly to bring you into the Kingdom than the fact it's a 'recognised state'.
    You ARE an independant state because ICly it's thought no one has the power to stop you being, it doesn't mean it's a recognised independant state or one the Queen or any Loyalist must approve of - I think that's where the confusion lies.
    As She-Man said:
    It's what's made the Loyalist/Rebel conflict so controversial and entertaining, as far back as LB versus Vesper.
     
  7. R Traveler

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    How long we will have dead body near castle?
     
  8. Escaflowne

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    OOC: Well in the beginning the RP community made up this treaty that all royalist states/guilds of the Kingdom signed to join and unite the Kingdom. Vesper refused to sign this treaty and become part of the Kingdom which spawned the wars. We fought the long Crown of Thorns war and won our freedom thus signing a treaty for our independence with someone who supposedly represented Lord British at the time. We've recognized ourselves as an independent nation all these years and many others have too. That doesn't mean everyone has to :) Xel'Naga could of been a rogue general, the queen can think we're part of the kingdom and so fourth. Such is the wonder of Role play which spawns story lines and wars :) Anything can happen and everyone or nation has different views. :)