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Partial Customization for castles & Keeps

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lore Master, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. Lore Master

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    I know that many Players request for fully customizable Castles and Keeps have so far been ignored.
    • Can we at least have partial customization for Castles & Keeps like giving us the ability to place Teleporters & additional Doors in a Castle or a Keep if we so wish?
    • One reason i would like this is because if we can place Teleporters & additional Doors in Castles & Keeps other players can only access the parts of our castle or keep that we want them to.
    I do have one additional request can all houses have a underground Floor like a Basement or a Dungeon Floor? Perhaps if we can have a Underground Floors in all houses maybe that floor can be fully customizable even in a Castle & Keep. Another storage increase wouldn't hurt either just a thought.
     
  2. Turdnugget

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    An underground cellar would solve my space issues and not needing a second house.

    And would be sweet to have/decorate like a pirate's cove full of booty.
     
  3. Lore Master

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    Forgot to add perhaps we can add walls within the Castle or Keep too without changing the outer design it's self if that would be acceptable to the Dev teams.
     
  4. Sarsmi

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    I'd be happy with craftable floor tiles. Maybe some for carp, some for tailors, some for stonemasons. Would work just like square goza mats. The artwork exists in the home customize menu already. Heck, they could implement the changes to already craftable goza mats:

    http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=96376

    *pimps old thread*
     
  5. Duskofdead

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    Castles and keeps are template houses. If you want a customizeable house place an 18x18. This sounds like a backdoor way to have a huge customizeable house type beyond what most players are able to get. HOw is that fair exactly?

    People who bought castles/keeps bought what they bought. If you have held your keep or castle since before customizeable housing, it's worth a ton now. Some guy just sold his keep, not even a great location or anything, for 26ish million on my almost empty shard. Sell it and go place an 18x18.

    What you're suggesting, honestly, sounds like having your cake and eating it too.
     
  6. Warpig Inc

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    Ya I posted on the basement ideal and the need to make the castle and keep more user friendly. A standard addition to the castle would be teleporters at the entry to the first floor back hall or far corners. Just making the keeps three deadspaces part of the first floor would be great. The basement would match the house foundation and be entered by the use of a placed teleporter like the trashbarrel is placed. The lower porter be directly below. And have the security settings like custom placed ones.
     
  7. It Lives

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    Just as soon as I can have 5000+ lock downs on my 18x you can customize your borg cube.
     
  8. Kaleb

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    99% of UO players are very bad house designers. Its a good thing that castles and keeps cant be customized. if they could allow porters and doors to be replaced in keeps and castles you think they would have done that instead of giving us Ladders? the basement thing cant be done (some axis thing a dev said) as far as im aware from the last thread asking for it.
     
  9. TorAnn

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    I think it would be great if we could even just customize the inside and leave the foot print and outside walls the same. Adding bars, telliporters,and being able take out stair cases to make more room in the smaller rooms would be great. Not changing the outside appearance at all though and not using the "courtyard" space either...keeping the same dimensions from the outside though.
     
  10. Cysphruo

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    look on the housing tool, castles/keep are not listed as customizable, theyre oldschool homes.

    my only problem is the courtyard... yes im taking it there :(
    if theyre going to remove my ability to recall/gate into there then they need to let me lock items down in there, since its now consider part of my home that i cant recall/gate into.

    one idea i got from this, why not add a new vet reward that lets people recall/gate onto a spot in their homes?
     
  11. Cysphruo

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    lol!
     
  12. Kelline

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    it would be neat to just be able to change the walls, doors & floor, but keeping them where they r, Like instead of a brick caslte u could have a log cabin one (no i dotn want a log cabin one, was the only wall tile that came to mind right away :p )

    would stil keep the the design, but let u change the actual look. ( & no I dont want to customize the whole thing. thats what the 18*18 is for & i gave that up for the castle. I just HATE the metal doors :( )

    & yes dang it, the grassy area is mine, so y cant we lock stuff down?
     
  13. Painted Elves

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    Actually Customizing a Keep/Castle just doesnt make sense to me.

    However it would really float my boat if you could choose 2-3 different wall types for a Keep/Castle. That would really be a doozy....

    Seriously though...I wonder if the Devs consider giving us new wall types for Keeps/castle or maybe even a new layout with the release of SA?
     
  14. Esmeralda

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    Uhhhh customizing such a large plot! *starts dreaming*
    That would be sooo awesome!
    But tbh, I´d be happy, if I´d only be able to decorate the interior garden. It´s just a waste of green space as it is now :(
     
  15. Chiera

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    dunno, teleporters surely would be helpful as it can get a bit lengthy running from one end to the other... then again large places, that's what castles are supposed to be in the first place.

    As for the rest, I don't think I would like the idea of customisable castles. They are just ok the way they are, and as others have pointed out already, there's always the option to get a customizable plot of you feel like getting creative in house design.

    One thing I would really like to see changed back with castles though is the ability to recall to the yard again. It's been possible for the longest time and I just cannot see any reason why it was abandoned in the first place. Now please don't start talking about security reasons anybody ....
     
  16. Olahorand

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    What I would like to see:
    1. Wall tiles (similar to the rubble tiles, but may be as deeds), with and without doors with own security settings, so that we can create a private room in a public castle or keep
    2. isolated teleporter tiles (you need two of them to establish a pair), which can be logged down within the same building (or maybe establish a link between two buildings within a certain range, which would make them interesting also for the owners of customizable homes)
    3. the ability to set security for the ladder like you can do for doors and teleporters
    4. The ability to lock down stuff (paintings, bulletin boards, plants) and place deed items like the shadow banners on the inner outer walls.

    *Salute*
    Olahorand
     
  17. ElvishArcher

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    I agree with a little of both views.

    First, I wouldn't want an eyesore, AKA "Borg Cube" the size of a Keep or Castle littering the countryside. So in that aspect I agree... NO for customization.

    I liked one poster's idea about goza style craftable tiles. This could be something to incorporate with the coming of the Gargoyles in SA when it finally is released! They have new magic and perhaps they figured out how to make teleport tiles? hmmmmmmm

    Now, there is one specific thing that really irks me as well as most us castle owners though... I FULLY understand the reasons for them taking away the ability to recall/gate etc into the grassy areas. So if that's the case, that tells me that the grassy areas where "recoded" at one point to remove that ability. This ALSO means it can be recoded to allow for locking stuff down out there! I would love to have a REAL park in my castle, rather than a fake one occupying my roof. I know they do it in NY City but this is UO folks! Let us use our grassy areas! Geesh! And I would not cry if I got no added storage... just want use of my grassy area!

    Hehe couldn't resist on that...
     
  18. Chiera

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    yes, as it is the castle yards are somehow unsatisfactory. They're not public in that they cannot be recalled in, nor private as they cannot be used for lockdowns. The worst of both worlds in a way.

    I am completely with you in that the idea of a fully customized atrocity the size of a castle would be a really bad idea (tm). *shudders*

    But if customization has to be what I could imagine as a kind of compromise might be the ability to customize the yard only. Maybe limited to one story only in hight. So all aesthetically impaired customizations would remain disclosed from public view, whereas it would still give enough freedom to create gardens, stables, little workshops or whatever that actually would go well with the castle theme.
     
  19. ElvishArcher

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    They would never allow customization of castles/keeps and I think that is fine personally as I stated above. Just the ability to USE the grassy area to lock down stuff you can still "redesign" by using stuff like the new deco items and rubbles etc to make an absolutely stunning park, stables, workshop etc. I just think this would be the easiest and most likely change we could ask/fight for as castle owners. We cannot get our hopes up they will ever let us fully customize them... and again as I stated before, I don't support full customization of castles/keeps even though I myself own a castle. We aren't (or I am not) asking for any added lockdown counts, wall building or anything. Just use of space which is obviously part of the "footprint" of said house type... they changed it once for no recalls, they can add the option to lock down in that area, in my opinion at least.
     
  20. Fink

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    I would like runes marked within a castle that allow you to recall to those specific points. These could work like teleports, or be direct shop runes. They would not work if the house is set to private or there are items locked down on the spot.
     
  21. Lady Michelle

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    I don't think keeps or castles should be customized. What I would like to see added in is different keep, and castle designs to the housing tool. The plots sizes could also be made maybe 4 tiles smaller. a new keep would be a 20 by 20 a new castle would be a 26 by 26. A player who has a castle could place a new castle would open up 4 tiles for their neighbors then the neighbor could place a large plot.

    this also could be turned into a contest a player who design a castle, or keep submit it to uo, and us players could vote on the designs.
     
  22. Gheed

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    Make Castle plots fully customizable. Resrict the outer area to 4 levels and the inner courtyard/room area to 5 levels. Give the 18xs 5k secures! I will open another account if you do this!
     
  23. Wilde1

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    giving all homes a storage cellar, with # of lockdowns based on plot size, would be a good thing, not customizable, basic dirt or stone cellar of the same footprint of the home (or smaller, who needs a castle-sized cellar hehe)
     
  24. mimring1

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    Well it's been touched upon but I thought Ide post. Firstly I want to express that I understand the arguments against making keeps/castles customizable. It woud create numerous eye sores, lag and rob the sense of timelesness that surrounds the classic design. However being a owner I have to say there are serious issues with space management (keeps have all that lost space on the first floor and castles the green inner area), not to mention after a few years the layout becomes tiresome. I am not asking to have my cake and eat it too, all I am asking for is a bit of variety.
    A few months back I submitted a feedback form reguarding castles and keeps and i deeply hope they consider it. I would like to see variations to the floor plan, keeping to the original exterior footprint & height limitations. Each variation would stick to a theme like trinsic sandstone style, wooden orc fort style etc. with a total of maybe 5 different themes to choose from for both the castle and keep. Owners could change between set styles depending on the look they were going for.
    To create these new floor plans throw a designing contest, one entry per acct. specifying the style they were entering for. This could be open to all servers with a total of 10 winners, the prize would be your design placed on a server of your choice, randomly placed in one of the many vacant housing reward spots that have opened up over the years. Theres my 2 cents :)
     
  25. MalagAste

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    I've said this before I ever owned a Castle.... Now that I do own one I still believe that Castles and Keeps should not be Customized.

    That said I do believe that Keeps and Castles should have 3 or 4 alternate designs to chose from (ones that UO players create and then we could vote on the best 4 designs) .... They would have the same footprint and all as far as that goes but they should be more user friendly. Also unlike other homes they should be more secure.

    I also agree with the others..... I should be able to put things in the courtyard or I should be able to mark in there... one or the other.... I'd like to put banners and vines and things on my castle but I can't..... I think I should be able to do that....

    I'm wondering if they shouldn't put a "footprint" on castle and keeps so you can do that.... which would let you put things in the courtyard to.