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Peerless upgrade please?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Goodmann, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. Goodmann

    Goodmann Babbling Loonie
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    Even with the new loot upgrade there loot is JUNK compared to Exodus. They need new AI, New Drops, New CONTENT! Peerless drops are pathetic and 10 years old (useless)
    Do 20 Peerless and 20 Exodus and see how the loot compares.
     
  2. flappy6

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    Yes please more usefully drops and in felucca if you spend the time to get keys ,you could at least anti-up on the taint and other regs. Maybe a couple new shared artifacts. You make all these cool animated stuff every week for these events that are rigged. Shouldn't be to hard make cool items obtainable through peerless.
     
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  3. Smoot

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    got my vote. i was really looking forward to farming dreadhorn after global loot, found out its really not worth the effort tho.

    Now that may be the point. Perhaps the devs idea was that the "lesser peerless" shouldnt have good loot compared to harder peerless. However the 3ish mobs worth fighting are already being farmed to such an extent that its really not worth doing anything but these, or just buying the artifacts.

    With the gear we have now, i would make all peerless a little more challenging and bump up the loot to a viable level.
     
  4. Merlin

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    Exodus is a much more difficult boss than the other peerless monsters. The loot shouldn't be the same for Exodus as it is for those 'lesser bosses'.

    However, I definitely agree that adding some new artifact drops to existing peerless bosses would be nice. It would provide a fresh reason to key for them more often and go on peerless hunts. Maybe bump up difficulty on a couple of the bosses to compensate for added probability of new drops.
     
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    get rid of chardybis
     
  6. Ender

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    Their idea of new AI will probably be just to disable life leech, don't suggest they change the monsters at all :(
     
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  7. Fusilli Zaitsev

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    Or make it worth doing. The loot is abysmal, about on par with a dragon. It's a fun mechanic for a group, and challenging enough that there should be some real reward to it.
     
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    Until they fix the Exodus exploit (unless they already have), he´s probably easier than the other peerless bosses.
     
  9. Merlin

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    Agree to disagree. Exodus simply isn't easier than Lady Mel, Medusa, Dreadhorn, Stygian Dragon...etc. I'm not aware of any particular exploit, but to the average group fighting the Exodus demon versus any of those other monsters I named, it will take more time, more effort and more people to defeat him.

    Exodus should have superior loot to the peerless bosses.
     
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    Uhhh, if you are not satisfied with the loot from a certain monster or boss then simply stop doing it.
    If you believe Exodus to be so superior start doing it.
    Is that hard to understand?
    Times change and not everything stays completely relevant.
    I think peerless are still worth doing and still give good loot. So maybe something now gives better loot though?
    Deal with it.
    Terathan Warriors at the keep used to give silver vanqs. The best loot in the game. They don't anymore so should I whine to the devs to update them? Hell no, I just moved on and have some fun memories of the place.
     
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    It would be nice if 99% of the content in this game wasn't ****ing pointless and not worth anything but fond memories.
     
  12. MalagAste

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    This is the trouble with turning UO away from an RP oriented game about community.... and turning into a greed fed item grabbing game. When we went away from GM gear to all this depth of crap on gear and weapons and crap we introduced the must have crap... and artifacts and all that junk..... now UO is less about adventuring and comradery and doing things with "the gang" ...... and it's more about doing things solo so you can keep all the loot to yourself... and everyone gets pissy if they don't get the drop and the best of everything... and eventually then folk have the top this and that.... and then they get bored because they can't get the next bestest thing ....... so the DEV's constantly are upping the aunty and such just to keep folk interested..... which if we had a big development team like they do at Blizzard for WoW wouldn't be that big of a deal but since our team is.... well what it is... we expect way more than they can possibly deliver.
     
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  13. Goodmann

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    I am doing Exodus instead. I am making a point that Peerless Encounters are useless and it does need to be upgraded. If I said they need to curb 2 button dexxers you would be driving to the Mythic offices right now to protest. I wish you only had a understanding of this game then I could actually put some thought into your post.
     
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    I agree peerless really aren't worth the time doing. I also was excited hearing of new loot..I did about 20-30 lady Mel, and after not even receiving a semi decent piece of armor I stopped doing it..the RNG shouldn't be so bad. Considering I got a legendary jewel from killing a rotting corpse, and not even anything worth unravelling from Lady Mel. I see that as a tad bit unbalanced..but just my measly 2¢


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    It exists, and turns him into a complete joke. Without it, yeah, he's tough.


    It is superior, no getting around it. Look around the trade forums. You see all of those Legendary drops? More likely than not, they're from Exodus.

    I've done Fel Peerless since 86, and I thought the loot sucked. I wanted to do Exodus a few nights after P86 hit in the hopes of getting a stat scroll from it. When we all saw the loot (and we did 2 that night), we decided to farm it regularly. I can't seem to upload a pic, but one of the items I got was this Legendary Ring: Antique, Fencing +15, SI 4, Night Sight, EP 25, HCI 15, 1/4, LRC 25, SSI 10. I dislike that it's Antique, but if you only pvp with them & make sure to repair, they can last a while. Until a few weeks ago, it was just sitting in my house and collecting dust, but I use a companion brace (Magery +15, 1/2, EP 20, LRC 12) and love it.
     
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    chardabyis is useless
    crap reward for the effort
     
  17. Picus at the office

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    Frankly I have found it rather odd that the only thing we can hope for is a CC and some hair dye. You look in the trade forum and see this stuff that people are pulling near daily but unless you have the ablity to farm that one spot the door is shut. I don't know if they should up the loot on one side or drop it on the other but you can do every other thing in the game yet you seem unable to get the same quality as EX. Yes it's hard but so are alot of the other areas of the game. Unless I'm have that "lucky" break it's not going to happen to the average joe.
     
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    All they really need to do is sit down and come up with a bunch of mounts and novelty pets, and maybe some belt-slot items besides the whopping two we've had forever, and some new statted cloaks and junk since we only have a few of them and they mostly came from limited events, blah blah blah, and then scatter those new goodies across existing content so that people have a renewed reason to do it.

    Instead we get endless nonsense like this huntmaster junk, armor refinements nobody wants, etcetera etcetera.

    Look, take the Charger of the Fallen, hue it all the different ore colors, and put it as a drop in... I dunno... Doom or Peerless or whatever, with the low ore colore being more common and stuff like valorite being super incredible rare status symbols. Maybe code it such that the drop chances go up the more people are in your party, so people group up.

    Tada, people are now out doing content in groups and it barely even took any dev work. But no, I'm sure Kyronix has some new laborious crap he's working on that will die off in less time than it took to develop.
     
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  19. Goodmann

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    And one DEV said Peerless loot is one of the best in game, it sucks lol. I think they need to take a look at it.
     
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  20. drcossack

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    Clearly they didn't specify which peerless. Or did they say the quantity was? Because that part is certainly true...unfortunately, on all of the ML Peerless, the quality of loot sucks.

    I've seen some good stuff off of the SA Bosses (Stygian anyway, haven't done many Slasher or Navrey), so at least that's an option if you want stuff for a Gargoyle.
     
  21. BeaIank

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    Navrey loot is ridiculous, plain and simple.
    You get better loot from Unbound EVs, and that is even after the big loot nerf they got with the publish.
     
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    The OP says that Peerless loot is pathetic and useless. That is completely false. Cinctures and rare hair dyes drop regularly enough and they still drop nice artifacts.
    Peerless are still being done regularly on my shard so I know that I am not the only one that believes they are still worth doing so what really is the point of this complaint?
    Exodus is much harder to do regardless of any supposed exploits so that alone would account for overall better items.
    After reading through the entire thread it is quite obvious that a few people simply want the best high end loot available on older monsters that are easier to farm. You can duel client and farm Lady Mel by yourself. Are you kidding me?
    So the devs should boost her loot to instant godmode so that a few whiners can get the best items in the game on a regular basis soloing? makes no sense at all.
    Instead of asking for something that makes no sense why don't the few people whining just come out and say that they want the very best items in the game to always be dropping from easily farmed creatures no matter what new content is added or what makes sense. Because that is exactly what this is about. It is not about Peerless one bit. It is about individual gaming philosophy and "me, me, me" and that has no place in a sandbox imo.
    Sprinkle in the regular few zealots that are so obsessed with cheating that they cant even enjoy the game and think that anyone else even trying to rationally factor it into gameplay is the enemy and you have this cesspool of a thread.
    *shakes head*
     
  23. Smoot

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    I feel that all peerless bosses should be made more difficult, regardless if loot is bumbed up or not. We have all these new legendaries that only a small fraction of players really "need". Id like to see all suits, luck suits, mage pvm suits, everything start actually NEEDING the stats like max hpr and eaters to be able to do peerless content.

    It doesnt make sense that loot improves but bosses dont get harder, and im not expecting any New bosses / content, so it would make the most sense to increase the difficulty of what we already have, maybe add a couple vanity drops like mounts / dyes, and force the majority of players to actually need the Global Loot that the devs took so much time to provide and was pleaded for on these forums.

    In short, i believe that peerless should no longer be survivable, let alone soloable in imbued gear anymore.

    How do the devs do that? Maybe just add an area spell to all bosses that does a significant amount of damage.
     
  24. Goodmann

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    agreed, beef those bad boys up and beef up the loot