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Petition to remove all made from duped items!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Exgirlfriend, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. Exgirlfriend

    Exgirlfriend Journeyman
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    This is out of control, I see weapons with grossly overpowered abilitys that are totaly COMMON now. The dev's need to do something ASAP...Maybe start mass banning or whatever it take to resolve this issue.

    Really, how do you say this nice?
     
  2. GalenKnighthawke

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    You don't.

    Any given item....You tell me how to tell if it was made from a duped hammer or not.

    How about a scripted barbed kit? Not much worse than a duped hammer, really.

    Or a scripted runic fletching kit.

    -Galen's player
     
  3. It's too late now.

    Mass deletion of items would only result in mass quitting by players.

    The best solution??

    A total revert of all shards to 2002.
     
  4. Exgirlfriend

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    The very worst part of this is the dev's totaly ignore the issue.
     
  5. Viper09

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    Overpowered weapons being common is not exactly a sign of mass duping. Overpowered weapons being common was inevitable with the introduction of runic kits. With weapons never breaking and crafters continually making more and more uber weapons, the market was bound to become common with overpowered weapons.

    That is not to say people are not duping the kits. I agree that they need to do something again (don't forget the recent burnings in Luna, that was awesome :D , so no, the devs are NOT ignoring the duping issue), but banning everyone with a duped item is not smart since anyone can buy them. Instead I would suggest a mass deletion unless they can be sure who is duping and who just stumbled upon the item.
     
  6. Tina Small

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    Morgana, in all seriousness, if the post-2002 paid version of UO makes you so miserable, why don't you just quit? Wouldn't the free shard you've said you administer/administered make you a lot happier?
     
  7. DHMagicMan_1

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    This has to be the most absurd thread in a LONG time...

    Lets just have the devs delete all "npc-sold" weapons and armor" along with all wood, ingots and leather... and all hammers, sewing kits and fletching tools etc...

    Let's just wipe the shards and let everyone make newbies and start 1000 gold again...
     
  8. JC the Builder

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    Clearly there is still a dupe that works. It is most likely BOD reward specific because you don't see a million other rare items flooding the market or even the Heartwood saws/fletcher's kits (they do run out of stock quite often, those are gotten the old fashion way).

    They should probably just turn off Barbed and Valorite/Verite/Agapite runic collection completely and then delete every one of those existing in the game. Also they need to delete every single BOD which can be used to collect them. Wait a couple months or until some time after the Stygian Abyss release to restart it.
     
  9. Dermott of LS

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    It's too late now.

    Mass deletion of items would only result in mass quitting by players.

    The best solution??

    A total revert of all shards to 2002.
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    Ummm... by that logic... wouldn't a 7 year revert cause the "mass deletion of items" followed by the "mass quitting of players" on a much grander scale?
     
  10. Not all l33t weapons are duped.

    I've personally picked up (then sold) a very incredible Ornate Axe from Parox.

    It was awhile ago, but the mods were something on the order of 45-50% for Hit Lightning, Hit Lower Defense, Damage Increase, something else, and 25% Swing Speed Increase.
     
  11. Hemisphere

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    What it may well be is that BOD books containing duped BODs didn't/don't get detected by the dupe checks that EA ran/run (perhaps because they're stored on not for sale vendors, or just something about the BOD book coding makes them undetectable)
     
  12. Tjalle

    Tjalle Grand Inquisitor
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    When Imbuing comes out, just get rid of PoF and they will break eventually...
     
  13. HD2300

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    imo Runics are not duped. They are scripted.

    Consider 1 account can get 7 chars x 23 hrs x 30 shards = 4830 tailor bods which is 19 Barbed Runic Kits and 4830 Blacksmith bods every day. Now if you have 10 accounts, that is a lot of runics you are churning out each day.
     
  14. Exgirlfriend

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    Lets all puke...thanks EA
     
  15. Viper09

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    Hmm, good point there. Maybe that's why none have been taken care of. I forgot about those scripters who can easily obtain many runics :O

    Luckily the Devs are planning on restricting the abilities of trial accounts as seen on that other thread started by Draconi:
    http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=124415
     
  16. HD2300

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    Yeah if the scriptors are moronic enough not pay $12 a month to keep making $1000 per month per account.
     
  17. Smokin

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    Could you take a picture of these weapons, that you see, i really want to see what you are talking about.
     
  18. Viper09

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    Hey I don't know how scripters use accounts, free or not. I've just always heard talk about abuse of trial accounts. I know restrictions on trial accounts will take care of a lot of things. Some scripters perhaps. Maybe you know more about scripters than I *shrugs*
     
  19. Gellor

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    Do a search for any thread started by the OP and you will see an absurd thread at least once a week:hahaha:
     
  20. Heartseeker

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    NO!!

    We can not afford to be getting rid of players right now.
     
  21. JC the Builder

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    The last time I checked you could only get 1 BOD every 6 hours unless you turn one in. So your calculation is way off. It should be 7 characters x 4 (maximum number per day) x 25 shards (not counting Siege and Mugen) = 700 BODs per day. If someone was really doing this it would take a long time to build up enough stock on each shard to be worth transferring over.

    But it is pretty clear that the Valorite Runic Hammers are not being acquired this way. There are sellers/vendors which have a seemingly endless supply. Some people buy 10/20/more runics at a time. What is more is some people who sell them (or used to, I don't know who's selling now) admit they are obviously duped.
     
  22. Dermott of LS

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    You CAN get 1 BOD per hour, but only the lowest level possible which would then have to be filled and turned in by a higher level crafter for a chance at the upper end runics.

    While the acquisition of deeds level is inbetween the 700 and 4830 numbers, it is much more probable that it is duping, not scripting, especially with the number of x-shard dupes since that program started.
     
  23. Petrify

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    Get .1 tailoring so you get a cloth BOD every time, then its 1hr per bod (I think). Then on your main tailor, who has a higher chance of brk bods you get a bod, turn in cloth, get a bod, turn in cloth... ect.
     
  24. Viper09

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    Although I'm curious. The title here says to remove all items made from duped items. Tell us Ex, how exactly do you expect to be able to tell the difference between an item made from a duped runic from an item made from an non-duped runic?
     
  25. Some people cannot take a freakin' joke.

    I mean really, if I forward you like $30, will you please go out and buy a sense of humor???

    Sheeesh!
     
  26. Derium of ls

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    My God, let's do that right now! Well, can we bump it back to about 1998 =)
     
  27. I am down with that!
     
  28. Chiera

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    early beta perhaps ? ... oh no... wait... that's where we still are :/
     
  29. Lord_Puffy

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    and lose 50+% of their player base, i doubt it why do you think 3rd party programs run so rampid.
     
  30. Lord_Puffy

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    It use to be 100 gold :p
     
  31. weins201

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    All it took was for some one to dupe a few full Val Hammer BODS in books, It wouldnt take lng to fill a BOD book with 500 Filled Val Hammer BODs and dupe that book which was prob what happened. Now all they did was hide these books which was also talked about. Easily two books = 1000 Val hammers.

    ALL these leet weapons are Val Hammer made and yes it is sad they cannot be delt with but even sadder is it is konw and easy to find.

    I have seen vendors with 25+ val hammers. This according to number should be tecnically IMPOSSIBLE. It was once stated about 1 Val hammer per year should be avail per shard LMAO.
     
  32. GalenKnighthawke

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    Since you're an expert on items that came from duped crafting tools, any way you can come to LS and give me an expert opinion on all the expensive armor I've accumulated over the years?

    I mean my stuff's way too nice for a Trammie unless I was somehow benefiting from cheating somehow, right?

    -Galen's player
     
  33. Radun

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    :: scribbles over any signatures on the petition ::
     
  34. Valas

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    You cant mass ban people for using completely legit items, however I do agree in some weps are pretty nasty!

    However this is just a con to having a comepletly customizable game!
     
  35. GalenKnighthawke

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    When can we get together on LS so you can tell me if my items are legit?

    Or, you could just tell us how you tell, and we can clean out our stuff on our own.

    50% of UO players cheat right? People said so in other threads, so it must be true. That's a lot! But it does also mean that 50% of players do not cheat. So at least half of us, by definition, must be more than willing to delete our own items on your word.

    -Galen's player