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Plant PiGMent... Seriously?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by RaDian FlGith, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. RaDian FlGith

    RaDian FlGith Babbling Loonie
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    Dear Developers...

    The naming filter must go.

    I cannot use the word "pigment" as in "plant pigment" because it contains the letters "gm" in succession.

    Until you can program a proper filter, it's time for this to go. I can't use the word "assassin" or "compassion" on barkeeps. You can't be an "ambassador" in a guild. I mean... this is getting silly. But the epitome of silliness struck today with "pigment."

    Please remove this.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Pawain

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    I cant figure out how to rename my barkeep or make him face the bar....

    I guess you are refering to guild titles and player names.

    They should improve the filter and rely on people complaining about the names that get through.
     
  3. falseprophet

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    One thing I have always found Bizarre is you cannot use "Smith" in the title.
    you could at one time because I had that title but when i tried to make another one on a different shard, it said that "tile is disallowed". had to use Smlth with a lower case L for the i
     
  4. Fink

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    Perhaps he was referring to message text. And I agree, the filter is stupid.

    As for making them turn, give them a tip message then drop a gold coin on them.
     
  5. MalagAste

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    My question is .... why do I have a filter on my paperdoll to turn on or off if I want to use it.... when you filter everything in-game for me anyway??

    If I'm truly "offended" by something then I should be able to filter it through the paperdoll.. but if my skin is a tad thicker than the tissue paper some folk have then seeing the word "assassin" shouldn't send me crying....

    If you ask me some folk have taken the whole "offensive" thing WAY too far.... to the point of silly ridiculousness...

    People need to grow up and quit using cheesy excuses to get someone banned because you don't know any better way to walk away or your sad because they beat you.

    There is offensive and then there is "OFFENSIVE"..... I'm not saying that people should run around and be allowed to say racial or sexual slurs to people... or be derogatory or anything... but really if we need this much of a filter for things then how do we function in real life if we can't take some word in a game?

    And don't tell me about the 12 or 9 year old playing because honestly... I don't think they should be... If they are they should be being MONITORED... With all the phycho sick-o's out there praying on kids letting them play a very adultish game without any supervision is just plain wrong. I've said for a long time I can't believe that no one has been arrested for soliciting a minor in WoW yet... You want offensive there are a ton of offensive things in that game.
     
  6. Pawain

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    Yup, my bartender cant say assassin. Thanks for the turning tip. I cant reach him from the front but at least he now has his side to the front.
     
  7. Frarc

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    I wanted to name my Vollem to my real cats name Spooky.But for some strange reason the name SPooky is not allowed. :p
     
  8. Xenobia

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    I tried to name my battle chicken Sassy...well you know what happened. The filter is ridiculous!
     
  9. Klapauc

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    Same here,wanted to name a pet Vielfrass.No go.gave me some headaches why.
     
  10. Glad I didn't go for Sassafras...Holy moly.
     
  11. The Fallout

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    I think it is stupid people get banned for saying something along the lines of, "Dang I got ****d" happened to a few friends during pvp.
     
  12. Drazasamus

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    huh... you can't name a pet sassy... but you can name a pet mornimg wood...
     
  13. The Fallout

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    LOLOL there are many......"clever" names out there.
     
  14. Lil' Lucien

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    They filter the word "assassin" cause it has two asses in it and that is just freakish! :D
     
  15. Lord Gabriel

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    This one should be fairly obvious. To you it may be a very harmless name with nothing intended, however this word has been used as a demeaning slur for many many years.
     
  16. Fink

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    I have a fire beetle named "Pica Sso" :(

    Can't lose the space.. didn't want to go with z's.
     
  17. Stupid Miner

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    Ill bet they leave it in because they like reading these threads. :lick:
     
  18. Frarc

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    Mmm i realy don't see anything wrong with the name Spooky . :)

    Unless Fox Mulder got very sensitive about his nickname. :p
     
  19. Xenobia

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    LoL If they were filtering the meaning of stuff it wood...I mean would! Too funny!
     
  20. Ya I hate the filter, there are times I want to name the shops and vendors names to items in game and I keep getting the message that is not allowed. Makes me so mad.
     
  21. Ferrut

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    Instead of z's for s's, l33t speak, extra spaces, etc. you can use accented characters, (use the charmap util) for example :

    Àssemblies
    Piĝments
    Spòóky

    ;)
     
  22. Uvtha

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    I feel ya. I once wanted to make a guild that was a trade ASSociation, but it wouldnt let me of course.
     
  23. Xenobia

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    If I remember correctly, UO is for mature players. Look at the language at the Luna bank. If they are not banning folks for cussing, why filter it? They built a filter into our doll so we could choose (as adults) what we see or don't see. Unless it is a really offensive word that promotes race hate or something like that, I truly do not see the point in the overkill.
     
  24. Drazasamus

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    the game was originally meant for adults, but around the same time they changed the bounty system they also changed the ability to hack up body parts, and you then had to be at least 13 years old to play
     
  25. Viper09

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    Well, I think one of the reasons they don't ban for cursing is because we CAN filter :p
     
  26. Xenobia

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    That was kinda my point and the fact that this is an adult game.
     
  27. RaDian FlGith

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    Seriously? We're not actually going to throw "the card" down on the word "spooky," are we? THIS is the problem with language in general... people can find all kinds of things to get all worked up about, if we let them.

    I mean, "folk," "people," and "kin" can also be offensive... "them folk did this," "those people are responsible," and "only kin like that do this sort of thing." At some point, we have to move past negative connotations that were used years and years ago and move into "Hey, the only reason a word has power is because we give it power."

    Spooky? While you think "this one should be fairly obvious," to most people, the word "spooky" is a synonym of "scary," "frightening," or "freaky." You're also confusing the word "spooky" with the word "spook," which could have the negative connotation you allude to, OR could (and mostly does) mean, "a scary creature."

    I mean, seriously.
     
  28. RaDian FlGith

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    Exactly, and if they're that concerned about it, make the same filter apply to all in-game words.

    Of course, the side effect of all of this is that by filtering without full words (and it does it excluding spaces too... you couldn't put Pampas Stuff on a vendor because Pampas Stuff would match), you end up drawing more attention to these very words that you're hoping people won't use.

    Just take the toggle-filter and let IT do the filtering. Leave the filter out of game, and let people page on inappropriately named stuff. Every vendor knows its owner, so if someone names their vendor a variation of a particular word beginning with the letter "N," ban for that... But don't disallow legitimate players using legitimate words simply because the contain another word in their own word form.

    I mean, Compassion is a Virtue, but good luck selling anything related to it.

    And... not to put too fine a point on it, filters don't apply to books, so I can tell a tale filled with much more latent negative expression than I could ever put into the name of a vendor, and yet, there's nothing stopping me there.

    Let's remove the cheese filter and deal with things on an appropriate level.
     
  29. Xenobia

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    You said it way better then I did. :cheerleader: They give us Compassion and then don't let us use the word. Don't they see the irony in that? It's ridiculous. Oh and don't get me started on the book thing. Their have been some downright trashy, nasty stuff written in the books and tossed on the ground. OMG let's all freak out! No, you simply pick it up and toss it in the trash. Problem solved.
     
  30. Cogniac

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    Double bonus on in-game books:
    1. Buy a book.
    2. Title it something such as "your ass".
    3. Hand it to an NPC.
    4. Bathe in merriment and splendour as the NPC quips in its quaint medieval dialect "Thou art giving me your ass? I am not interested in this."
    5. Rinse.
    6. Repeat until you offend even yourself with your increasingly ribald titles.
     
  31. RaDian FlGith

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    They solved that problem a long time ago. You're the only one who sees that text when you do that -- it doesn't broadcast to anyone other than the person handing the item to the vendor.
     
  32. Fizzleton

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    ... and there are people out there who don't use english as a first language. I DO know what that "ass" is about, but on "poo" and "spooky" I am helpless.

    I think there are different problems here. EA has to demonstrate that they took action against vulgar speech (UO is rated what? 12+?) - so such a filter might simply be some regulatory affair. I really don't think they care much about vulgarity, because if they would, I don't understand what is happening during eg an event.
     
  33. Calliope

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    I tried to make a new char named Dmitri. It wouldn't let me have that name - I have no idea why!:sad3: