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Please change field spells back!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Wojoe, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. Wojoe

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    They are about useless now. Mage's do depend on them for PVM and PVP. If you cast a field on a monster it leaves a hole in the field, If you cast a field on yourself it leaves a hole. People that use the field hack can just walk right thu your defence now by placing a 1 tile field were the hole is.

    This is a major nerf to mages and PVP defence, I was wondering why EA would do something like this.

    Im sure other people will give more examples so feel free to post.

    Please change them back.

    Thanks
     
  2. Viper09

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    Technically energy field was broken since not long after trammel came out. That spell was never meant to block players, rather it was meant to harm players like the fire wall spell.
     
  3. Taylor

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  4. JC the Builder

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    I seem to recall it blocking and damaging. They took the damaging part away because people exploited it to gain Resisting Spells.
     
  5. Viper09

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    Naah. The change to energy field happened because there was a bug that caused the casters to get flagged when players walked into them in trammel.
     
  6. Ishamel_Legends

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    No, JC is right. Used to it would block you but if you casted it under a ladder (such as one in a small tower) and walk up the ladder it would damage you and your resist spells would fly up.
     
  7. SchezwanBeefy

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    You can still lay down energy fields and gain in resisting spells very quickly...
    I'm pretty sure it wasn't changed for that reason. I think it was just an error that needs to be fixed.
     
  8. Ishamel_Legends

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    Lol since when can you gain resist off energy fields again?
     
  9. Cear Dallben Dragon

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    there are certain places in UO right now that you can't even through a conflag down. perfectly flat locations of terrain and no fire appears at all.
    This makes no sense? Is this from the stair change?
     
  10. Ls Jax Ls

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    Welcome to UO development.
     
  11. RaDian FlGith

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    Since 1997. Unfortunately since about 1998, you can't.
     
  12. Xalan Dementia

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    cant do any fields in the slashers house either, lil harder without para fields
     
  13. WarUltima

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    It used to work. And if I recall correctly it worked for awhile even after 1998.

    They changed that and people used fire fields to gain resist skill. And there was a period that you can teleport up to a roof and cast blade spirit down to the ground and it will flag you and move underneth you and gain resist that way. Do you know we used to train parry with blade spirit as it "swings" once every quarter second? Yes that's right it swings 4 times a second AND poisons you.

    With powerhour active and a crosshealer you can GM parry in less than an hour fighting 4 to 5 Blade Spirits (and use a buckler because you have the highest parry chance with those back then). 50 minutes and about 30 bucklers later you are @ GM.

    This game changed a lot over the years. And in this case I really do not think that they changed the fields in order to fix an exploit, more like catering it for some people who refuse to adapt.

    Oh and samething is going on for conflag pots. If you throw it directly on someone the tile they stood on will be NOTHING. This means even if you know perfectly where a stealther is at and you throw a conflag pot to THE EXACT TILE THEY ARE STANDING ON, that tile will have NOTHING. This means if the stealther does NOT move conflag is not a viable option to reveal them. This change/bug is faking :coco:ed
     
  14. Budwieser

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    No, it's para fields from a red mage with no eval to gain resisting spells. Not energy fields.
     
  15. Wojoe

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    I dont care about gaining skill with fields and this is not what i posted this thread about.

    The issue is fields are totaly nerfed now in PVP and i want the dev's to change them back.
     
  16. Ls Jax Ls

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    Agreed. Maybe if I'm lucky they can get to it before I quit from frustration.
     
  17. G.v.P

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    Energy fields definitely worked post 1998. Was probably the only reason to buy a small marble over a 7x7 once new houses came into the picture. That sound you hear if you cross over someone else's energy field in say Tram is what you'd hear from damage.

    LOL I remember training parry w/ blade spirits :) but that was after they took out poison I think. Used to be nice being able to cast up to 5 Evs or Blades.
     
  18. SchezwanBeefy

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    Funny how I just did this the other night and Legendaried in like 2 hours... Fell asleep at the computer doing it a few times. Guild mate laid down the energy fields and I ran through them. That was that. (You're right though, it is para, not energy... sorry!)
     
  19. Jimmy Pop

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    It may have been changed to eliminate the "push up" glitch.

    Or was that already fixed?
     
  20. G.v.P

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    Back to the OP, has a Dev commented on this bug yet? I really hope it isn't intended to be this way. As others have already described, if you cast a field on a creature or player then the tile that the creature or player is on will not be given a field. Very, very annoying for both PvM and PvP.
     
  21. Violence

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    This really drew my attention.. If I understand this right, XFielding is now NOT possible because of this change...

    ....And you want the Devs to fix that?.. IF the answer is positive then you're completely mad, champ. That or you're one of the countless people getting their kills this way, since they're unable to PVP straight.. I wonder if you'll want them to fix potions timers too if they ever get implemented.
     
  22. Ls Jax Ls

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    XFielding as you call it is still possible. You do not understand this right.
     
  23. Wojoe

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    Nope, Still hoping for a reply and fix from the dev gods...
     
  24. BTeng_Mythic

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    Hi,

    We've confirmed issues with:
    - field spells not appearing where mobs/players are
    - field spells not appearing on tiled surfaces (such as the Chamber of Virtues where the Slasher of Veils is)

    These two issues will be fixed.
     
  25. Wojoe

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    thanks alot...
     
  26. Widow Maker

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    What about Tracking????
     
  27. Ls Jax Ls

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    Sheesh it only took how many days? I confirmed that about 5 seconds after I downloaded the patch. :mf_prop:
     
  28. Viper09

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    Confirming it and telling us they confirmed it are not the same thing. They likely knew about it the same day you did.
     
  29. Ls Jax Ls

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    Explain to me why it isn't fixed then.
     
  30. Megilhir

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    I often wonder why people go to such lengths to "exploit".

    The Energy Field for Resist Spells was real and worked. No more.

    Just like using crates to pin a spell casting mob in the corner of a house and getting continually blasted used to work.

    Or summoning a GOLEM and fighting it outside Luna to gain in whatever skill you are trying to gain in.

    Goodness this is boring. Why not simply go adventuring and gain that way?

    It makes for a pleasent journey and opens a lot of content if you actually work your way up.

    For example: You could work Resist Spells legally and effortlessly by simply going to Haven, gathering a number of the Spectres and going afk while they blast you as you stand on a porch/inside a build etc.

    Absolutely nothing illegal. You are not unattended macroing. You are not scripting nor botting nor anything else. You come back from dinner and you have 100 Resist Spells.

    ---------OR--------------

    You could take the new character to Yew Orc Fort and battle your way up, feel a bit of trepidation as the Orc Mage spawns and locks on you...you race about...Cure...In Vas Mani...bandage...reengage...get poisoned...CORP POR - CORP POR...flee...Cure...In Vas Mani...In Vas Mani ...bandage...ATTACK!!! WHACK-THUMP, WHACK-THUMP...running and screaming....AGHHHH__________What? Oh it died..../Phew.. Go loot and enjoy a successful engagement and, wait for it, a fun on-line game event. (You gain .01 Resist Spells)

    But who wants that...it's not uBerNessNESz.
     
  31. Ls Jax Ls

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    You and I obviously have different definitions of boring.
     
  32. Viper09

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    Hmmmm, the same reason a ton of other bugs haven't been fixed yet? Bugs dating back much longer than a week? lol!

    Not every bug is as simple as fixing that leather dye tub exploit.
     
  33. Ls Jax Ls

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    I highly doubt it is a difficult bug to fix.
     
  34. G.v.P

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    My main concern is self target, and exact targeting for poison fields.

    X-field still works, albeit, it can't be as gimp for PvP purposes because you cannot place a poison field on the center tile, as it stands.

    There are several counters to get out of X-fields: trap, teleport (teleport scroll), dispel field (via trapee or guildy) on one of the four corners of the X which ends up blocking char movement.

    OOXOO
    OOXOO
    XXMXX
    OOXOO
    OOXOO

    M = Mark, or target. Old way, one field goes over Mark in X. Current, bugged way, no field tiles can go over Mark. In this case, the four X's, which represent part of the field, still block the Mark in.
     
  35. Elric_Soban

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    Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and assume for a second that the combined IQ of the dev team is infact over 300 and this is a bug, and not intended design.

    Hopefully fixed soon.
     
  36. Restroom Cowboy

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    and your background in coding is....


    *waits*


    *crickets*
     
  37. Ls Jax Ls

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    Majoring in CS.
     
  38. G.v.P

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    Thanks -- one of the best parts of SA in my opinion is the ability to use teleport, since previous additions to the game have sometimes limited the use of the spell. Glad to know the problems have been found.