First: Sorry for my english, that's not my first language. ok that's my angry time vs warriors template So After ninja poblems, and specials, and dupes, and... and... and... i don't count Osis's mistakes since WoW started (or since Pub 16 changes). You just need look rpg's players number statistics. Why you think ppl stayed with uo ? For me i stayed on uo, because that was the best game with a good pvp with tactics in fight. Warriors templates are too much powerfull just an example : An archer template + healing + chevalry + a bow balanced is cannot be killed by a mage... same with 2 mages... may be with 3 mages u can think about it. Ohh.. and, i'll don't talk about dismount. In one hit with special + DI , HCI, HLD + others bull%!@#... that s so incredible a warrior can do: 50-65 dommages. How a mage can do a duel ? When the max dommage for a mage can be at least 35-40.. Oh wait for do that... he need first curse his target and have enough time in his "fast recovery" before to die If i was looking items based game, graphics, etc ... i'll choose for sure others rpg. The interested in uo is pvp and housing/vendors system, if you kill this, you will kill the game Osis all time add more and more powered weapons, armors, news gifts... you proliferates items... for what ? I don't care so much powered items, so much gifts or armors, serious i prefer a good fight! I don't know if some other ppl are agree with me, but pls do something with Warriors/Mages pvp. That's so unbalanced, and it's not normal !